Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-24 Thread Lorn Potter
On Saturday 24 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 23.05.2008 um 20:49 schrieb Lorn Potter: If anyone is in the position to change that, it's we. I don't like so sound to negative. I like most of the changes. But i think throwing the gtk apps away and replace them by the QTopia apps

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-24 Thread Lorn Potter
On Saturday 24 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to add that I think Qtopia is very interesting, and I'm really looking forward to trying it on my neo, and thank you to Trolltech for helping out with getting it on X11 and on the neo, and for putting up with all the criticism. No

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-23 Thread Tilman Baumann
Michael Shiloh wrote: * Switches the Window Manager from Matchbox to Enlightenment (E17) Nice. * Ported Qtopia to Xorg, so it is possible to run Qtopia, GTK, ELF, and Python applications all at the same time Really nice. * Replaced the GTK-based basic phone suite (dialer,

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-23 Thread Michele Renda
Hi Tilman I think they prefered to use an existent project, because they need something running and to concentrate their energy to hardware part. They want to concentrate to the project of hardware, not in GUI writing. According me is a good idea to reuse the software wrote by other people.

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-23 Thread Tilman Baumann
Michele Renda wrote: Hi Tilman I think they prefered to use an existent project, because they need something running and to concentrate their energy to hardware part. They want to concentrate to the project of hardware, not in GUI writing. Openmoko is a Software project. The software is the

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-23 Thread Tilman Baumann
Tilman Baumann wrote: Well, we will see... I should better keep my mouth shut and wait until there are GTA01 builds. As i'm just in the mood of speaking about the devil right now. I hope this will not end as Nokia N770 all over again. I bought my Neo under the promise that all future software

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-23 Thread Lorn Potter
On Friday 23 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michele Renda wrote: Hi Tilman I think they prefered to use an existent project, because they need something running and to concentrate their energy to hardware part. They want to concentrate to the project of hardware, not in GUI writing.

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-23 Thread Tilman Baumann
Am 23.05.2008 um 20:49 schrieb Lorn Potter: If anyone is in the position to change that, it's we. I don't like so sound to negative. I like most of the changes. But i think throwing the gtk apps away and replace them by the QTopia apps is stupid. I would rather like to see a transition to

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-23 Thread Ivo Anjo
I just wanted to add that I think Qtopia is very interesting, and I'm really looking forward to trying it on my neo, and thank you to Trolltech for helping out with getting it on X11 and on the neo, and for putting up with all the criticism. Also, for the QT-naysayers: all the software is

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-22 Thread Lorn Potter
On Thursday 22 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had some further discussions with headquarters, and have edited my blog to try to explain the new software a little better. The important facts are that the new software: * Switches the Window Manager from Matchbox to

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 22 May 2008 15:58:43 +1000 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Thursday 22 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had some further discussions with headquarters, and have edited my blog to try to explain the new software a little better. The important facts are that the

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-22 Thread Tom Cooksey
On Wednesday 21 May 2008 21:45:37 Michael Shiloh wrote: * Ported Qtopia to Xorg, so it is possible to run Qtopia, GTK, ELF, and Python applications all at the same time Hmmm... Just wondering if anyone has seen this: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/05/13/introducing-qgtkstyle/

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-22 Thread Lalo Martins
Also spracht Michele Renda (Wed, 21 May 2008 22:51:47 +0200): A lot of people that are afraid that Nokia, as owner of Trolltech, can be against Openmoko freedom, but I think you are not stupid and you know what are you doing. Nokia makes money out of handsets, not software. Who knows? They

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-22 Thread Michele Renda
Yes, it is possible. But often Hardware producer are linked to carriers. I remember how phone producer try to disable VoIp function from their devices. And this is not nice. I don't know how Nokia will like an open phone. But we can not to know! Lalo Martins wrote: Nokia makes money out of

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-22 Thread Michael Shiloh
Lorn Potter wrote: On Thursday 22 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had some further discussions with headquarters, and have edited my blog to try to explain the new software a little better. The important facts are that the new software: * Switches the Window Manager from

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-22 Thread Marco Trevisan (TreviƱo)
Tom Cooksey wrote: On Wednesday 21 May 2008 21:45:37 Michael Shiloh wrote: * Ported Qtopia to Xorg, so it is possible to run Qtopia, GTK, ELF, and Python applications all at the same time Hmmm... Just wondering if anyone has seen this:

clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-21 Thread Michael Shiloh
I have had some further discussions with headquarters, and have edited my blog to try to explain the new software a little better. The important facts are that the new software: * Switches the Window Manager from Matchbox to Enlightenment (E17) * Ported Qtopia to Xorg, so it is

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-21 Thread Matthew Peterson
Special Agent Michael Shiloh reported at 12:45 05/21/08: I have had some further discussions with headquarters, and have edited my blog to try to explain the new software a little better. The important facts are that the new software: * Ported Qtopia to Xorg, so it is possible to

Re: clarification of Qtopia Vs. GTK

2008-05-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 21 May 2008 22:51:47 +0200 Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi Michael, I think you and your team are doing a courageous but good choose. I ask only that if in the future this choose will limit Openmoko openess, you will protect us! A lot of people that are afraid that