Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *

2008-09-17 Thread Lorn Potter
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: > I've made a patch for it [1] and as you can see it works [2] :P, but I > had no time yet to attach it to the trac (ehm, also because the other > patches I've made to qtopia haven't been neither reviewed :|). Which were those? -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engi

Re: Qtopia 4.4 ?

2008-09-26 Thread Lorn Potter
Russell Hay wrote: > Keen to try the Qtopia 4.4 image if/when it's available - does anyone > have an outlook? There are comments going back to June/July saying > 'coming soon'... Only someone working in Qt Software. :) 4.4 is right around the corner. It has dynamic rotation, webkit/example brow

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended ?

2008-09-30 Thread Lorn Potter
� wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 13:50, "Marco Trevisan (Trevi�o)" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is has been renamed to Qt Extended right now, isn't it? >> >> However there are some very interesting videos on the net [1] > > renamed indeed... I had not seen this before : > http://labs.trolltec

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released!

2008-09-30 Thread Lorn Potter
� wrote: > C�dric Berger wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 13:50, "Marco Trevisan (Trevi�o)" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Is has been renamed to Qt Extended right now, isn't it? >>> >>> However there are some very interesting videos on the net [1] >> renamed indeed... I had not seen this befor

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released!

2008-09-30 Thread Lorn Potter
Thomas Bertani wrote: > wow! confirmed new features? gtalk, webbrowser, gps? > In videos I can't see screen orientation, it is aviable? Yes. dynamic rotation is available. > > Thanks a lot for your work! no worries! > > 2008/9/30 Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released!

2008-09-30 Thread Lorn Potter
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: > Lorn Potter wrote: >> I wrote: >>> but... Where are sources and binaries? >> We usually release the open source packages a couple days after the >> commercial release. >> >> They will be at the new site: >> http://

Re: How to build qt-extended?

2008-10-02 Thread Lorn Potter
Nicola Mfb wrote: > I'm trying to build qt-extended myself, but build process fails, anyone > may help? > > This is what i did: > > cd /opt > wget http://qtextended.org/downloads/neo/arm920t-eabi-ficgta01-toolchain.tgz > tar xzvfC arm920t-eabi-ficgta01-toolchain.tgz / > wget > http://qtextended

Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-02 Thread Lorn Potter
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: > On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200 > Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i presume if >> you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go. >> >> unless...I was also looking at the "services" screen or what

Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-02 Thread Lorn Potter
Vince M. Clark wrote: > I switched a setting to make the menus do the wheel thing (didn't > realize what I was doing when I selected it) and now I cannot select > anything. Touchscreen doesn't respond to selection on the wheel. So now > I can't get to settings, apps, etc. Guess I'll re-flash. >

Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-02 Thread Lorn Potter
Kishore wrote: > On Friday 03 Oct 2008 4:46:45 am Lorn Potter wrote: >> Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: >>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200 >>> >>> Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.

Re: How to build qt-extended?

2008-10-03 Thread Lorn Potter
Nicola Mfb wrote: > 2008/10/3 Jim Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > It is activated in the released image. At least I can set the > encryption on my email account. > > > I just downloaded the updated toolchains, but the problem persist: Looks like it configured i

Re: [Om2008.9] stored PIN for qpe

2008-10-03 Thread Lorn Potter
Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > Is it somehow possible to feed the PIN from a file in rootfs into the > PIN dialog of 'qpe'? Thx nope. But the sources are available you could patch it to do this. > I know it's not very secure, but normal people will not know how to read > files in a FR :-) >

Re: How do I turn on wifi in QTextended?

2008-10-04 Thread Lorn Potter
Charles Pax wrote: > I'm using the new version of QTextended (was Qtopia) and I can't seem to > find any way to turn on my wireless. I see where I can turn on/off the > Bluetooth, but nothing for the wifi chip. Any advice? Settings->Internet->Options (menu)->New->Wireless -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter

Re: [QTextended] how to select music directory in Media Player?

2008-10-04 Thread Lorn Potter
Craig B. Allen wrote: > I have been trying to setup to play files stored on my SD card but > cannot find any way to select or enter a directory. Put your files in a Documents directory on the sd card and qt extended will find them -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Soft

Re: [Qt Extended]: Power management functions not working when plugged in.

2008-10-05 Thread Lorn Potter
Kelvie Wong wrote: > On Sunday, October 05, 2008 20:46:27 Kelvie Wong wrote: >> I've used the Power Management dialog to set the FR to turn off its screen >> after X amount of time -- this seems to only work when the phone is >> unplugged. >> >> Whenever I plug it back in, the settings are not resp

Re: [Qt Extended]: Power management functions not working when plugged in.

2008-10-05 Thread Lorn Potter
Kelvie Wong wrote: > On Sunday, October 05, 2008 21:00:41 Lorn Potter wrote: >> Yes, this is a known issue, unfortunately. Am working on this as we speak. > > Good to hear :) Are snapshots going to be available, or would I have to wait > until the next release? > We are

Re: one day usage of qtextended

2008-10-06 Thread Lorn Potter
Craig B. Allen wrote: > Comments and additions: >> - mp3's play choppy, even ogg's experience this (especially when >> touching the screen while the player is on) > 128k mp3s from podcasts play fine, haven't tried music or ogg. > > - I have been unable to get wifi at home working (WPA2) despite >

Re: one day usage of qtextended

2008-10-06 Thread Lorn Potter
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: > Hi, > > I've used the qtextended distro for one day as a regular phone, here > are my experiences: > > - first of all: battery life seems to be ok, after one day the battery > meter was still at 80%. Nice! > - echo issue: with my alsa state file, no issue anymore C

Re: Community update, october 3rd 2008

2008-10-06 Thread Lorn Potter
Minh Ha Duong wrote: > * Another big point release: Qtopia 4.4. It's now called Qt Extended, we > will need to update that string on about ~100 wiki pages! Qt Extended only refers to versions 4.4.1 and above. Any reference to Qtopia 4.3.x should remain the same. :) -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter

Re: why?

2008-10-06 Thread Lorn Potter
Detructor wrote: > Why is there no distro with GPRS/WLAN support? > After (dunno...5 or 6 months?) there is still no distro for the neo > freerunner that has a GPRS/WLAN support, that works. > > yeah, you'll say "but there is the OM2008.x stuff" and I'll answer: it > simple does not work! I mean..

Re: one day usage of qtextended

2008-10-07 Thread Lorn Potter
Nishit Dave wrote: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > This is a gtalk presence indicator. > > Million dollar question: where is gtalk? how do I install and configure it? Install/flash qt e

Re: one day usage of qtextended

2008-10-07 Thread Lorn Potter
Devendra Gera wrote: > On Wed, 08 Oct 2008, Lorn Potter wrote: > >> Nishit Dave wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >>> >>> This is a gtalk presence ind

Re: one day usage of qtextended

2008-10-07 Thread Lorn Potter
Devendra Gera wrote: > On Wed, 08 Oct 2008, Lorn Potter wrote: > >>> I don't see a Gtalk settings entry in the settings menu in my install! >>> I'm using the original 4.4.1 image. Are you using the one with the >>> zoneinfo updates? Did you install anyth

Re: one day usage of qtextended

2008-10-08 Thread Lorn Potter
Matt wrote: > gtalk uses jabber protocol, so should be doable. Certainly. If telepathy and gabble were available for the Neo's. > > Nishit Dave wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wro

Re: QTExtended package repository

2008-10-08 Thread Lorn Potter
Charles Pax wrote: > I'm looking for the package repository for QTExtended. > http://qtextended.org/packages/feed/4.4.1/neo does not seem to be there, > but this is what is in the package manager I flashed to my neo. Please > advise. I haven't gotten around to getting packages built for this. O

Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...

2008-10-09 Thread Lorn Potter
Paul wrote: >> I heard today that turning down the speaker volume should fix this >> somewhat. Problem is that, after a reboot, this is set to max again. I >> intend to have a look at some files and see if I can incorporate a dirty >> hack for the time being, to fix this. No promises that this w

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Lorn Potter
Rod Whitby wrote: > Risto H. Kurppa wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Duv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> My only concern here is that there seems to be a separation between the >>> developer and the user... that in the community both seem to have there >>> little corner. Maybe I am reading

Re: UBIFS was Re: Compressed file system for SD?

2008-10-12 Thread Lorn Potter
nickd wrote: > I haven't sorry. Coincidentaly, the new kernel which was released the > other day (.27) includes a new filesystem designed for flash drives - > UBIFS [1]. I wonder if this could be relevant to this project. It looks > like it has full write-back support, meaning it doesn't need to

Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-10-13 Thread Lorn Potter
� wrote: > Hello, > > I finally found a place in the qtopia sources where I could put code for > activating the > echo suppression for every incoming/outgoing call. > I'm quite sure that experienced qtopia programmers would find a better > place for it. A better place for stuff needed for a par

Re: qt extended src does not match precompiled

2008-10-20 Thread Lorn Potter
Glen Ogilvie wrote: > Hi, > > I am not sure if I should be talking about this here, or on the qt extended > forum which seems fairly quite. However, I recently downloaded and compiled > qt-extended-4.4.1. > > I then compared the /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia directory from > qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-r

Re: [Om2008.9] AtChat talking every second to SIM

2008-10-21 Thread Lorn Potter
Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > I was looking a bit through the output of logread and I'm asking me if > it is normal (and necessary in the sense of power consumption) that 'qpe' > is talking every second to the SIM to ask for the signal level of the GSM: > > Oct 21 11:34:28 om-gta02 user.noti

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Lorn Potter
Jim Morris wrote: > Cédric Berger wrote: >> Here we are >> http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html >> >> time to port to Neo ! >> > > At last maybe we will get a stable, usable O/S for the Neo (which I have > shelved until such a thing > exists). I w

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Lorn Potter
Jim Morris wrote: > Lorn Potter wrote: >> Jim Morris wrote: >>> Cédric Berger wrote: > >> Just because 4.4.1 might be unstable doesn't mean qt extended will >> always be that way. It just means that 4.4.1 was buggier than expected. >> > > Oh I k

Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?

2008-10-31 Thread Lorn Potter
On Sat November 1 2008 2:55:36 am Pander wrote: > I've just tried 4.4.2 with mwester's kernel and it gets losts in an > infinite pile of 'blah blah Magic bitmask blah blah' so going back to > 4.4.1. > > Does anyone else got it working properly or the same problems? I forgot to add mwesters file sy

Re: [debian][neo1973] Forwarding GSM port to PC

2008-11-03 Thread Lorn Potter
Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek] wrote: > Greetings, > I want to write small app on my PC using neo1973's GSM modem. I'd like > to somehow forward /dev/ttySAC0 and have serial device in my Linux' /dev > and connect to it as to ordinary serial port. > I have debian installed so I have an access to pl

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-24 Thread Lorn Potter
Tilman Baumann wrote: I like Qtopie too. Especially considering how well they could handle embedded guis for years. But in reallity. qt and c++ is a limitation. Look how far Opie was evolved during the last years and how god id was from the beginning. But it still was more or less insignifi

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-24 Thread Lorn Potter
off list. Just between you and me... there will be some great announcements in the next few weeks. wim delvaux wrote: HI all, Champion of open source and user of familiar on Ipaq when time was new, i wonder if it was such a good idea to rewrite from scratch an entire GUI system. Knowing

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-24 Thread Lorn Potter
Brad Midgley wrote: Lorn Just between you and me... there will be some great announcements in the next few weeks. I think you just said the loud part quiet and the quiet part loud (a simpsons reference :) doh! ___ OpenMoko community mailing l

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-24 Thread Lorn Potter
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Tilman Baumann wrote: > Am 24.08.2007 um 21:03 schrieb Lorn Potter: > > Tilman Baumann wrote: > >> I like Qtopie too. Especially considering how well they could > >> handle embedded guis for years. > >> But in reallity. qt and c++ is

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-25 Thread Lorn Potter
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > Dnia piątek, 24 sierpnia 2007, wim delvaux napisał: > > Knowing that the device is now about 6 months late and looking at the > > overall stability and completeness of the GUI (List of issues is still > > long perhaps too long ?) I wonder if it would

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-18 Thread Lorn Potter
A couple other differences, QT is C++ based, whereas GTK is C based, so depending on what your preferences are... Also, isn't GTK licenesed as LGPL, whereas QT is GPL? So commercial developers will need to pay for a seperate license for QT if they make non-GPL apps, whereas GTK's license is more

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-18 Thread Lorn Potter
Giles Jones wrote: Mauro Iazzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : before someone beats me to it. http://trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2007-09-17.9260755578 Ironic given one of their Greenphone guys was slagging the OpenMoko project a while back. That greenphone guy was me

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-18 Thread Lorn Potter
Michael Schmidt wrote: Thanks, but why is the Neo phone not a small laptop? that all can be installed, at least for the needed libraries. So a GTK gui still makes sense... Greenphone then can as well join OPENMOKO platform, and if greenphone uses only QT, is then the GTK application working? -

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-18 Thread Lorn Potter
I think that the GTK front end for the Neo has a lot of potential that the Qtopia front end may miss, so a strategy that borrows from both systems would be good for us early adopters. Er, the dev kit appears to be missing openssl, which could be a problem. Also, announcements aside, I don't se

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-18 Thread Lorn Potter
Tilman Baumann wrote: Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:45:51 +0200, Mauro Iazzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hate to say it but in my experience at least, its a dream developing apps using QT esp given the nice IDE in comparison to using GTK. QT just has the docs and organi

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-19 Thread Lorn Potter
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2007 22:58:00 Lorn Potter wrote: Not X11 like all other systems. This has better performance and is in my eyes the perfect solution for embedded devices. There is no great performance difference between x11 and fb. As long as X11 renders to FB

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-19 Thread Lorn Potter
Thomas Wood wrote: All in all, the great thing about OpenMoko and the Neo1973 is that you're free to choose whatever path you wish to take. If you want to use Qtopia on your Neo1973 then you are more than welcome to do so! There are many many different Linux distributions and probably almost as m

Re: Is neo1973 dual boot possible?

2007-09-24 Thread Lorn Potter
Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: Hi! Is it possible to have both Qtopia and OM environments on one phone? One could be able to chooses system on startup (such as grub or lilo chooses Linux or Windows ;). That would be useful - you could use Qtopia env as a phone during day but at night you could reboo

Re: Is neo1973 dual boot possible?

2007-09-24 Thread Lorn Potter
Piotr Duda wrote: I have to admit qtopia is quite nice (sounds does not work for me right now and Updated flash image is pending. Ive managed to hang it after first 10min of intense clicking;) but I vote for the Openmoko, for the openness never seen before in mobiles, from the very begining

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-25 Thread Lorn Potter
Dani Anon wrote: thomas.cooksey at bt.com wrote: Fantastic news! What works? Looking at the youtube videos, it appears that the phone, SMS, bluetooth & power management are all working? Can you actually place and recieve calls? pm needs work. - I've worked with QT and it's clearly superi

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-25 Thread Lorn Potter
Carlo E. Prelz wrote: Subject: Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973 Date: mar 25 set 07 08:18:31 +0200 Quoting Dani Anon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): - But QT is not free (as in beer) for commercial usage This is not the only reason why Qtopia is sub-optimal. It's not a reason at all. N

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-25 Thread Lorn Potter
Dani Anon wrote: Yep, but there's this undeniable fact that having 0 entry cost invites a whole new class of developers that you wouldn't have otherwise. I think we could perfectly choose QTopia and just handicap commercial developers, either of the options is better than having two options.

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-25 Thread Lorn Potter
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 25.09.2007 um 17:20 schrieb Dani Anon: But hey I like how you conveniently left unanswered my comment about how the FBUI and DirectFB projects exist solely to remove the X server overhead. Can you explain to me and them why they are wrong and how they have

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-25 Thread Lorn Potter
Dani Anon wrote: On 9/25/07, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:32:46 +0200, "Dani Anon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/25/07, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Carlo E. Prelz wrote: Subject: Re: Qtopia coming for Ne

Re: Acoustic feedback

2007-10-01 Thread Lorn Potter
Michael Welter wrote: I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see with two opposing mirrors). I used a wrong alsa state in the Qtopia tech preview image, which has an echo problem (sidetone), wh

Re: Acoustic feedback

2007-10-01 Thread Lorn Potter
Michael Welter wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Michael Welter wrote: I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see with two opposing mirrors). I used a wrong alsa state in the Qtopia tech preview

Re: Acoustic feedback

2007-10-02 Thread Lorn Potter
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 17:21, Richard Reichenbacher wrote: > I posted this in the forum but never received a response. Any possibility > of an official ipkg repo from trolltech so we don't have to keep > reflashing? I've actually been using qtopia on my neo as an everyday phone > and I hate to

qtopia flash image update

2007-10-02 Thread Lorn Potter
I have uploaded a Qtopia snapshot version flash image for the Neo. You can get it from here: http://www.qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php a brief change log: * fixed audiostate handling (including head[sets/phones]) * updated kernel to 2.6.22.5 * fixed screen dimming/blanking. * ringtones

Re: Acoustic feedback

2007-10-02 Thread Lorn Potter
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 17:21, Richard Reichenbacher wrote: > I posted this in the forum but never received a response. Any possibility > of an official ipkg repo from trolltech so we don't have to keep > reflashing? I've actually been using qtopia on my neo as an everyday phone > and I hate to

Re: qtopia flash image update

2007-10-03 Thread Lorn Potter
Heilpern, Mark wrote: Hi Lorn, Thanks for the update one problem though. In my case (and presumably the case for others), I'm not normally inserting a SIM. If I wait long enough will the lock time out since the network isn't going to register? Failing that, is there a configuration file I ca

Re: qtopia flash image update

2007-10-07 Thread Lorn Potter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! With qtopia I can actually use my neo! Battery life sucks, but oh well.. One thing tho - I cant play mp3s it says media type not supported..any ideas as to why or where to look for a more specific error message? wavs are fine, but mp3s dont work Thats because

Re: Keypad for fingers, not stylus

2007-10-10 Thread Lorn Potter
Openmoko wrote: Hi, I've started a little project: to make a keypad where it's not required to use the stylus, i.e. the fingers should be used instead. The plan is to make an alternative to the matchbox keyboard so that the new keypad can be used both in terminal, for texting etc. So far I've

Re: I'm new in this list

2007-10-13 Thread Lorn Potter
Ryan Prior wrote: Nope, no trick. QTopia just doesn't have support for power saving on Neo1973 last I heard, so the battery you're life is the battery life everybody's getting. It is an issue that will be resolved, though. It does have support for resume/suspend. We just turn it off by default

Re: Trolltech drops greenphone for OpenMoko (Neo)

2007-10-23 Thread Lorn Potter
Zalunin Pavel wrote: Yeah, I think, that greenphone today is not actually project, because now Compulab created hw platform for creating smartphones for $2300 . It has sensor big sensor panel. And of couse OpenMoko Neo 1973 is better than greenphone. Qt released greenphone, but not upgraded it.

Re: Battery time

2007-11-09 Thread Lorn Potter
John Locke wrote: Hello, I was running Qtopia for 5 or 6 weeks, and under that, I was getting about 5 hours of time tops, whether I used the phone or not. The battery indicator has 5 bars, and after a good 4 hours, there would still be 3 bars left (60%, or so you might think). But by that point,

Re: Qtopia flash image 11/9

2007-11-09 Thread Lorn Potter
Richard Reichenbacher wrote: Richard Reichenbacher wrote: Lorn, I just flashed over the latest image you uploaded. Upon receiving a call, the phone does not ring, I cannot hear the other person they cannot hear me and the alarm clock doesn't ring. Odd thing though is that when I place a c

Re: developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko -- where do we stand?

2007-11-12 Thread Lorn Potter
Mike Montour wrote: It can be as easy as: ./build/tmp/cross/arm-linux/bin/gcc -o hello hello.c (once you've built the cross-compile toolchain with MokoMakefile) There is a working downloadable toolchain at qtopia.net. Of course, it doesn't have gtk,X11. I believe OM is intending to come out

Re: full-duplex audio from Wolson codec

2007-11-15 Thread Lorn Potter
rukhsana ansari wrote: Also, the default VOIP application that comes with Trolltech's QPE4.3 image for the Neo does not have sound working. This is a known issue. We haven't added QAudioState switching to the needed parts. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Troll

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needs applications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-16 Thread Lorn Potter
Michael Schmidt wrote: Hi If I understand it right, the neo phone has now three options for an operating system - the current openmoko GTK operating system - Qtopia from Trolltech - Android linux from google. Not an option at this time. Android (the VM) looks like it is another java platform,

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needsapplications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-18 Thread Lorn Potter
Marcelo Lira wrote: >From my POV, when people at OpenMoko decided on GTK for its paltform they are giving developers the ability to participate and influence *directly* on its development, and create great apps, both opensource and proprietary, without paying any license fees. The Nokia decisi

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needsapplications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-18 Thread Lorn Potter
Marcelo Lira wrote: >>License fees for Qtopia (and Qt) are a pittance compared to the fees of >>even one engineer for one year for any company Yes I agree with you before you said it: > Look that the pricing is not the most importante issue >>You can influence directly the development of Qto

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android -

2007-11-19 Thread Lorn Potter
Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Lorn Potter wrote: If you look at the development, both Nokia and Openmoko 'runs the show' and has the last say on their respective platforms, not the community. It is perfectly reasonable to me that Nokia and FIC get to decide the software that's ins

Re: linuxmobiles.org - a new forum

2007-11-19 Thread Lorn Potter
William Weinberg wrote: OCCAM'S RAZR - One ought not to multiply entities without necessity. Why does the world need yet another mobile Linux knitting circle? Just because you can buy a domain name doesn't mean you should mint new .orgs. Sigh. Let's all fight fragmentation with more fragmen

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android -

2007-11-21 Thread Lorn Potter
AVee wrote: > On Monday 19 November 2007 14:54, Marcelo Lira wrote: Free software is worth encouraging. Status quo closed source is not. >> So, this is a problem, but it is ok to use free software to help the growth >> of a company that profits in selling licenses for closed source software?

Re: No Android on the Neo1973 - Only MyPhone left

2007-11-22 Thread Lorn Potter
On Friday 23 November 2007, AVee wrote: > On Thursday 22 November 2007 10:56, Shaul Kedem wrote: > > Hi, > > One of his ways out of this is "Google releasing the source and > > someone else compiling for ARMv4." now google said they will open the > > source (they have no choice, its GPLv2) so I'd

new Qtopia image

2007-11-27 Thread Lorn Potter
I just uploaded a new Qtopia snapshot image to the downloads section of Qtopia.net. This introduces the new Cruxus mediaengine, which has a few plugins already, which include libmad, tremor (ogg) and timidity, for .wav, .mp3, ogg and .mid file support. If you want to compile this yourself, yo

Re: new Qtopia image

2007-11-27 Thread Lorn Potter
Kai Winter wrote: Very good... The SIM card seems to be recognized on every start and phone calls also work ;) But still I can't create a working GPRS connection. Is this a general problem or am I doing something wrong? Nope. It hasn't been implemented yet. Qtopia uses GPRS through the mult

Re: new Qtopia image

2007-11-27 Thread Lorn Potter
Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: Wiadomość napisana w dniu Nov 27, 2007, o godz 9:33 AM, przez Lorn Potter: I just uploaded a new Qtopia snapshot image to the downloads section of Qtopia.net. This introduces the new Cruxus mediaengine, which has a few plugins already, which include libmad, tremor

Re: new Qtopia image... Predictive keyboard not being predictive

2007-11-28 Thread Lorn Potter
Richard Reichenbacher wrote: I've been using the latest image from qtopia.net since it was uploaded. I just realized today when I tried to send a text that the keyboard isn't predicting anything. I checked in languages and english is selected. The predictive keyboard comes up when I go to t

Re: new Qtopia image... Predictive keyboard not being predictive

2007-11-28 Thread Lorn Potter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting clare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Richard Reichenbacher wrote: english is selected. The predictive keyboard comes up when I go to type a message but it just doesn't predict anything. Any ideas? Give Thanks - sorry I couuldn't resist... clar

Re: Ultimatum

2007-12-23 Thread Lorn Potter
P.s. I'm not taking any time off, so if anyone wants their GSM firwmware upgraded I'm just as available next week as any time. What exactly is the procedure? Do you need the phone to be sent to you? -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech

Re: Neo unusable for playing ogg

2007-12-23 Thread Lorn Potter
On Monday 24 December 2007, andy selby wrote: > > today I copied a number of ogg files onto the Neo and started playing > > them with the Media Player. The result was very dissapointing, since > > there was a constant skipping noticable. > > I have the 27/11 relese of qtopia on my neo and some ogg

Re: Neo1973 and Qtopia with GPS application

2007-12-30 Thread Lorn Potter
is quite same as the ones Lorn Potter releases, but mine has added two gps applications. I have made a couple of screenies here: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/screenshots/RoadGPS.jpg and http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/screenshots/Roadmap-1.jpg <h

Re: Neo1973 and Qtopia with GPS application

2008-01-01 Thread Lorn Potter
GoXbox Live wrote: Hi. I have made a Qtopia image for the Neo1973. The image is quite same as the ones Lorn Potter releases, but mine has added two gps applications. I have made a couple of screenies here: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/screenshots/RoadGPS.jpg and http

Re: Neo fast charge utility

2008-01-02 Thread Lorn Potter
Nick Guenther wrote: Hijacking a bit: for the record, all thunder does is write "fast_cccv" or "closed" to /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0008/chgmode depending on what mode you want, and wrap that up in a nice OM GUI. Any hope for a qtopia version? I can make a script

Re: Neo fast charge utility

2008-01-03 Thread Lorn Potter
Nick Guenther wrote: On Jan 2, 2008 11:57 PM, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nick Guenther wrote: Hijacking a bit: for the record, all thunder does is write "fast_cccv" or "closed" to /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0008/chgmode depen

Re: noise while making a phone call: hardware or software?

2008-01-03 Thread Lorn Potter
Richard Reichenbacher wrote: From what I can tell the noise comes and goes. When I'm in a good signal area I really don't hear it but when I'm in a bad signal area it's very loud. I asked Lorn Potter what he thought and he said it was probably a software issue. If I w

Re: Very basic and fundamental question about the Neo

2008-01-05 Thread Lorn Potter
On Sunday 06 January 2008, Marc Verwerft wrote: > Nicolas, > > Well, everything works but the software for optimal usage of the > battery is still under development. And yes, most of us do long for a > device that stays up for a couple of days ... > > Look at the answer from Mickey on the post with

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-09 Thread Lorn Potter
rakshat hooja wrote: Hi, I have been following the improving power management conversation on the IRC logs and on this list but am still not clear if it is only a software problem (suspend issues, devices not shutting off when being closed etc.)or there are Major hardware issues involve

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-10 Thread Lorn Potter
Maciej Kaniewski wrote: What you *CAN NOT* expect yet * reliable means of making phone calls, esp. not from the UI * reliable means of sending/receiving SMS, esp. not from the UI * integrated GPRS data access * bluetooth integration (basic bluez driver works) * proper po

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