Re: [computer-go] Go + code + environment

2009-05-23 Thread Gunnar Farnebäck
Joshua Shriver wrote: > Perhaps I'm mistaken in my reading, but isn't Mogo a clusterized and > highly tuned version of gnugo? Things like that made me want to make > this post. As I find the Go programming community more open to sharing > ideas and code than my chess world counter part. You are m

Re: [computer-go] Go + code + environment

2009-05-23 Thread Ian Osgood
On May 23, 2009, at 3:17 AM, Joshua Shriver wrote: I know with the Chess community, it's looked down upon to use others code w/ respect to competing in tournaments. I'm curious, how is it with Go? Even more so. A decade ago, a couple of North Korean programs were alleged to have been pl

Re: [computer-go] Go + code + environment

2009-05-23 Thread Michael Williams
MoGo was inspired by Crazy Stone? I've never heard that before. Ian Osgood wrote: On May 23, 2009, at 3:17 AM, Joshua Shriver wrote: I know with the Chess community, it's looked down upon to use others code w/ respect to competing in tournaments. I'm curious, how is it with Go? Even more

Re: [computer-go] Go + code + environment

2009-05-23 Thread Ian Osgood
On May 23, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Michael Williams wrote: MoGo was inspired by Crazy Stone? I've never heard that before. From Sensei's Library: Warm thanks to Rémi Coulom who participated in Yizao's internship. MoGo's early development benefited a lot from his sharing the experience of pr

Re: [computer-go] Go + code + environment

2009-05-23 Thread David Doshay
On 23, May 2009, at 4:03 AM, Gunnar Farnebäck wrote: Joshua Shriver wrote: > Perhaps I'm mistaken in my reading, but isn't Mogo a clusterized and > highly tuned version of gnugo? You are mistaken. You may have mixed things up with SlugGo, which at least at some time could be loosely described

RE: [computer-go] Go + code + environment

2009-05-23 Thread David Fotland
course. David > -Original Message- > From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- > boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Michael Williams > Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 8:22 AM > To: computer-go > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Go + code + environment > >

Re: [computer-go] Go + code + environment

2009-05-25 Thread Olivier Teytaud
> > > Perhaps I'm mistaken in my reading, but isn't Mogo a clusterized and highly > tuned version of gnugo? Things like that made me want to make this post. As > I find the Go programming community more open to sharing ideas and code than > my chess world counter part. > > Will gladly stand correct

RE: [computer-go] Go + code + environment

2009-05-25 Thread David Fotland
I use a Gnugo binary for testing the Monte Carlo engine, but I did not use Gnugo for testing any older version of Many Faces. I've never looked at Gnugo's source code. Since I published descriptions of Many Faces' internals before Gnugo was developed, I suspect that some ideas from Many Faces are

RE: [computer-go] Go + code + environment

2009-05-27 Thread Tom Cooper
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:19 -0700, David Fotland wrote: > I asked about looking at Gnugo source back in 2001, but the answer I > got from Richard Stallman convinced me it would not be a good idea. > Please could you elaborate David? Is the GPL infectious through looking at source code? _

RE: [computer-go] Go + code + environment

2009-05-27 Thread David Fotland
o.org] On Behalf Of Tom Cooper > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 3:37 PM > To: computer-go > Subject: RE: [computer-go] Go + code + environment > > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:19 -0700, David Fotland wrote: > > > I asked about looking at Gnugo source back in 2001, but the answer I

Re: [computer-go] Go + code + environment

2009-05-28 Thread Mark Boon
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:33 PM, David Fotland wrote: > GPL is not infectious through looking at source code, but I didn't want any > appearance of wrongdoing.  And I was put off a little by Stallman's > rhetoric. > > David > I have mostly stayed away from GPL projects for the same reasons. Inste