Hi Remi,
I have one more question on CrazyAnalysis.
What is the exact meaning of delta?
In the detailed analysis on the corresponding move,
are there two values where delta is the exact difference of them?
I did not find any.
Regards, ingo.
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In the most recents Crazy Analysis, Delta is the difference between the
evaluation of this move, and the evaluation of the next position of the game.
For instance, in this page:
http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/~coulom/CrazyStone/ingo/index.html
At move 72, delta = 0.0431076 is 0.441597 (value
This game is very nicely commented by David Ormerod at gogameguru:
http://gogameguru.com/man-machine-match-final-results-game-commentary/
He did an amazing job of explaining the complicated tactical encounters.
It's a lot better than what I could have come up with.
Stefan
Thanks for the link. I think I learned a few things about how to play Go.
Does anyone know of a good collection well-commented 19x19 games?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Stefan Kaitschick
stefan.kaitsch...@hamburg.de wrote:
This game is very nicely commented by David Ormerod at
Oh, I followed the breadcrumbs back to this listing:
http://gogameguru.com/get-better-at-go/commented-go-games/
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Michael Williams
michaelwilliam...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the link. I think I learned a few things about how to play
Go. Does anyone know
To: computer-go@dvandva.org
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Game 2 goes to Zen: 1-1
Oh, I followed the breadcrumbs back to this listing:
http://gogameguru.com/get-better-at-go/commented-go-games/
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Michael Williams
michaelwilliam...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks
.
Original-Nachricht
Datum: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:25:47 -0500
Von: Jeff Nowakowski j...@dilacero.org
An: computer...@computer-go.org
Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] Game 2 goes to Zen: 1-1
Game 3, with mostly dan-level comments:
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/16
Hello Remi,
thanks a lot for your nice service.
Hopefully, this feature will flow also in forthcoming
commercial versions of CrazyStone.
A few proposals for improvement:
* You should mention that in each row the move itself can be clicked
to get more information.
* P(Black to win) might be
-go] Game 2 goes to Zen: 1-1
Game 3, with mostly dan-level comments:
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/16/PaperTiger-2.sgf
Zen won by resignation. Series is 2-1 in Zen's favor.
I got Aja 6d and gogonuts 5d to kibitz, and participation by observer
count was much better, around 60
Hi,
Jouni on CrazyAnalysis:
Wow, this is starting to look like a serious and useful computer analyzing
tool like they have in Chess! It may still lack somewhat super grand
master accuracy, but it should be definitely worthy for spotting obvious
blunders and getting general sense what is
thanks a lot for your nice service.
Hopefully, this feature will flow also in forthcoming
commercial versions of CrazyStone.
A few proposals for improvement:
* You should mention that in each row the move itself can be clicked
to get more information.
* P(Black to win) might be given in
On 17 janv. 2012, at 11:05, Ingo Althöfer wrote:
Hello Remi,
thanks a lot for your nice service.
Hopefully, this feature will flow also in forthcoming
commercial versions of CrazyStone.
Hi Ingo,
Since many people seem so interested, we may try to include it in the next
version.
A
Hello Remi,
Am 17.01.2012 um 20:21 schrieb Rémi Coulom:
On 17 janv. 2012, at 11:05, Ingo Althöfer wrote:
Hello Remi,
thanks a lot for your nice service.
Hopefully, this feature will flow also in forthcoming
commercial versions of CrazyStone.
Hi Ingo,
Since many people seem so
...@dilacero.org
An: computer...@computer-go.org
Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] Game 2 goes to Zen: 1-1
Game 3, with mostly dan-level comments:
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/16/PaperTiger-2.sgf
Zen won by resignation. Series is 2-1 in Zen's favor.
I got Aja 6d and gogonuts 5d to kibitz
Zen had the white stones and won game 2 of
the GoBet-II against John Tromp.
Here you find sgf
http://www.althofer.de/zen-tromp-02.sgf
Winning percents for White, as seen by Many Faces of Go
http://www.althofer.de/zen-tromp-02-percents.jpg
Territory estimates for White, as seen by ManyFaces
Congrats to Zen this time.
Thanks again, Ingo.
Later this group went over Jordan.
For some reason crossing the Jordan is not one of the hundreds of
euphemisms that do exist in the english language.
How about it entered the garden of serenity :-)
The MFs winrate graph is pretty good at telling
Winning percents for White, as seen by Many Faces of Go
http://www.althofer.de/zen-tromp-02-percents.jpg
Territory estimates for White, as seen by ManyFaces
http://www.althofer.de/zen-tromp-02-territory.jpg
Ingo, Thanks for posting these charts, I think they are very interesting.
David,
Hi Darren,
I think, I an also answer your questions on the charts.
Winning percents for White, as seen by Many Faces of Go
http://www.althofer.de/zen-tromp-02-percents.jpg
Territory estimates for White, as seen by ManyFaces
http://www.althofer.de/zen-tromp-02-territory.jpg
...
This was a major blunder, IMO. I think John will win every game in which
he avoids big ones like this.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Ingo Althöfer 3-hirn-ver...@gmx.dewrote:
According to the experts the most decisive action was Zen's move
122.f2 which increased the pressure on John's
If he could avoid every big blunder, then he'd probably be a rank or
two stronger.
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On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 17:05, Michael Williams
michaelwilliam...@gmail.com wrote:
Kibitzing anything in that room is pointless for all the noise.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:10 AM, steve uurtamo uurt...@gmail.com wrote:
to be fair, that was a very subtle situation. only two of the hundreds
of kibitzers expressed anything like a correct solution.
s.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012
I'll admit, I'm not a dan player. I don't even play enough to know my rank.
Probably I'm missing something about the position. But it seems that the
group simply doesn't have two eyes and allows Zen to remove the last way of
getting two eyes.
Although Zen also did not see it as being as
the group simply did not have two eyes. the subtle part of the
equation was trying to figure out how to save it. very few people had
good suggestions about that. and lots of relatively strong players
were watching.
s.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Michael Williams
michaelwilliam...@gmail.com
in the post-game analysis that i watched, the more relevant factor
seemed to be decisions made earlier in the game. but you should ask
john what he thinks, it was his game, after all!
s.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, steve uurtamo uurt...@gmail.com wrote:
the group simply did not have two
I think he's listeneing. John, what was your take on that situation? At
the time and in hindsight.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:41 AM, steve uurtamo uurt...@gmail.com wrote:
in the post-game analysis that i watched, the more relevant factor
seemed to be decisions made earlier in the game.
is not very good
at fuseki.
-Original Message-
From: computer-go-boun...@dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
boun...@dvandva.org] On Behalf Of Ingo Althöfer
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:33 AM
To: computer-go@dvandva.org
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Game 2 goes to Zen: 1-1
Hi Darren,
I
On 01/15/2012 10:18 AM, Michael Williams wrote:
Kibitzing anything in that room is pointless for all the noise.
For both games, I set up a clone game with moderated chat where only
dans could kibitz. Unfortunately, at best it only had 10% participation
(based on observer counts) and the
Hello Jeff,
thank you for your service. Although I will likely stay
at the crowded place when the game runs I look at the
papertiger comments afterwards. They definitely broaden
the horizon.
Ingo.
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On 01/15/2012 03:19 PM, Richard J. Lorentz wrote:
In case you cannot get the listing next to the unmoderated one, will I
still be able to easily find your moderated game by just scrolling the
list of games and looking for tromp vs. zen19n, presumably with an extra
tag or flag or something?
It
Like after the match in December 2010, I intend to write a report on this
match for the ICGA Journal. For that it would be nice to have comments
by John, Darren, Zen team, and strong observers (Ajahuang, Gogonuts, others).
Some comments I will collect from the chat, for more I will ask at or
Game 3, with mostly dan-level comments:
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/16/PaperTiger-2.sgf
Zen won by resignation. Series is 2-1 in Zen's favor.
I got Aja 6d and gogonuts 5d to kibitz, and participation by observer
count was much better, around 60 versus the 260 or so for the
I think that the advertisement here was a great idea.
s.
On Jan 15, 2012 6:26 PM, Jeff Nowakowski j...@dilacero.org wrote:
Game 3, with mostly dan-level comments:
http://files.gokgs.com/games/**2012/1/16/PaperTiger-2.sgfhttp://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/16/PaperTiger-2.sgf
Zen won by
Datum: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:25:47 -0500
Von: Jeff Nowakowski j...@dilacero.org
An: computer...@computer-go.org
Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] Game 2 goes to Zen: 1-1
Game 3, with mostly dan-level comments:
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/16/PaperTiger-2.sgf
Zen won by resignation
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