[CGUYS] start from an external

2008-03-15 Thread Jeff Miles
The hard drive in my iBook died. I'm trying to start from an external hard drive that has a fully operational OS X on it, but during start up it gets stuck with the message waiting for local disks. By this I'm assuming it's waiting for the internal hard drive to be recognized, which it

Re: [CGUYS] start from an external

2008-03-15 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 11:03 PM -0700 3/14/08, Jeff Miles wrote: The hard drive in my iBook died. I'm trying to start from an external hard drive that has a fully operational OS X on it, but during start up it gets stuck with the message waiting for local disks How long have you waited before giving up?

Re: [CGUYS] start from an external

2008-03-15 Thread Matthew Taylor
How are you trying to start from the external? Using the standard option key method? Have you tried starting from the DVD? On Mar 15, 2008, at 2:03 AM, Jeff Miles wrote: How do I get the machine to start from the external and ignore the internal, or local disks?

Re: [CGUYS] start from an external

2008-03-15 Thread Stephen Brownfield
How is the external hard drive connected to the iBook? Do you know for a fact that the fully operational OS X is a bootable disk? Jeff Miles wrote: The hard drive in my iBook died. I'm trying to start from an external hard drive that has a fully operational OS X on it, but during

Re: [CGUYS] start from an external

2008-03-15 Thread Tom Piwowar
How do I get the machine to start from the external and ignore the internal, or local disks? Immediately upon startup press the following 4 keys: Command, Option, Shift, Delete (Backspace). This will lock out the local disk and should allow the other disk to take over. Keep holding the keys

[CGUYS] 6% md tax

2008-03-15 Thread gerald
the wall street journal weighs in: High Tech Tax March 15, 2008; Page A10 In the cinematic classic, Revenge of the Nerds, a group of college outcasts fights back against the local campus bigshots to regain their place in the world. A real-life sequel is playing out in Maryland, where a new tax

Re: [CGUYS] Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: Vicky you prove my point. I thought she proved mine. She is in effect in a straightjacket and this prevents her getting DSL. Given complete freedon she would get DSL. Given _complete_ freedom, I said I'd choose FiOS. I haven't seen any technical

Re: [CGUYS] Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop

2008-03-15 Thread mike
Vicky! You are letting silly things like facts get in the way! Tom has spoken...DSL is better it doesn't matter what you've actually experienced. There are no other factors...Tom's word is law! I'm calling all my poor sap cable modem using friends who are actually getting 20mbit right now and

Re: [CGUYS] start from an external

2008-03-15 Thread Jeff Miles
It's connected through a firewire cable. And yes, it's a fully operation OS X. I'd assume it's a bootable disk since it was a drive out of a fully operation computer. It was just removed, put in an external case and then connected to the iBook via the firewire cable. Jeff M On Mar 15,

Re: [CGUYS] start from an external

2008-03-15 Thread Jeff Miles
A half hour on the longest try. I figure that's enough. Jeff M On Mar 15, 2008, at 6:13 AM, Roger D. Parish wrote: At 11:03 PM -0700 3/14/08, Jeff Miles wrote: The hard drive in my iBook died. I'm trying to start from an external hard drive that has a fully operational OS X on

Re: [CGUYS] start from an external

2008-03-15 Thread Jeff Miles
Tried that, as mentioned in a previous reply. I've used all the key combo's mentioned on this page, http://www.davespicks.com/writing/programming/mackeys.html I just need to know what it means when it says waiting for local disks. The ibooks internal drive is fused solid. I can't hear it,

Re: [CGUYS] start from an external

2008-03-15 Thread Jeff Miles
I've used every method I can think of. I used every key combo suggested here; http://www.davespicks.com/writing/programming/mackeys.html I still run up against the message of waiting for local disks. My question is, what the hell is local disks? Jeff M On Mar 15, 2008, at 8:16 AM, Matthew

Re: [CGUYS] Investment Tracking Recommendations?

2008-03-15 Thread Jordan
The European countries may look bad but the dollar has dropped dramatically in relation to the euro lately. gerald wrote: yea, like ireland or spain or italy. they gotta bounce soon. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=IBEX:IND Blah, Blah Blah.

[CGUYS] Cable vs DSL ( was Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop)

2008-03-15 Thread Stephen Brownfield
All this cable/DSL talk got me wondering: Is DSL any more secure/safer than cable or vis-a-versa? Tom Piwowar wrote: I never knock the competition. All I can say is that in Verizon territory, you pay for 3 mbps, you get 3 mbps, or a reasonable facsimile. That has been my experience

Re: [CGUYS] Investment Tracking Recommendations?

2008-03-15 Thread Jordan
The European countries may look bad but the dollar has dropped dramatically in relation to the euro lately. And, I shouldn't have to add, is likely to continue to, since the radical right that has been in charge have made us so weak.

Re: [CGUYS] start from an external

2008-03-15 Thread Fred Holmes
While I'm not a Mac person, there has to be some logical process that tells the machine to boot from the external drive, not from the customary internal drive? What is that process for modern Macs? Or some process that changes the default boot device? Somewhere there is either flash memory

Re: [CGUYS] Cable vs DSL ( was Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop)

2008-03-15 Thread Alan Warshawer
I don't know how far anecdotal evidence can resolve this issue but here is my experience. I was a verizon DSL subscriber from the beginning in the Washington DC area. I was paying for 3MB, Verizon stated that they could only give me 1.5MB. and my usual experience ( from the Verizon speed test

Re: [CGUYS] Cable vs DSL ( was Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop)

2008-03-15 Thread Fred Holmes
Logical security? I don't see any basis for any difference. Physical security? No matter what's in the cable (copper twisted pair, copper coax, or fiber), there would be little difference, i.e. if it's strung on poles, a falling tree would part it, but physical strength would make some

Re: [CGUYS] start from an external

2008-03-15 Thread Tom Piwowar
It means it can not boot from your FireWire drive. You wrote that this drive worked previously to start up a Mac, but I do not recall you saying that this drive was used to boot the Mac you have it currently connected to. Apple keeps making hardware changes and these often cause old boot disks

Re: [CGUYS] Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Tom Piwowar
Note I said, one fiber optic cable. Initially threw me for a loop [yes bad pun], but the tech said there were multiple wave lenghts for transmit receive over the same fiber optic cable. One optical cable can carry hundreds of different wavelengths of light and the companies that make the

Re: [CGUYS] Cable vs DSL ( was Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop)

2008-03-15 Thread Tom Piwowar
All this cable/DSL talk got me wondering: Is DSL any more secure/safer than cable or vis-a-versa? Depends on how it is connected. Old-style provisioning, that did not use a router/firewall, had you sharing your home network with 500 neighbors. So you could print stuff out on your neighbor's

Re: [CGUYS] Cable vs DSL ( was Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop)

2008-03-15 Thread mike
Cable systems are built on ethernet technology, this is where the idea that you share your connection with the rest of the neighborhood, you are basically on the same network. Most if not all current cable modems are built to filter out packets not meant for your IP therefore the old story of

Re: [CGUYS] Cable vs DSL ( was Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop)

2008-03-15 Thread Tom Piwowar
After many conversations with various Verizon Tech Support people, I am highly aware that that DSL speed is highly dependent on distance from the local central office. Therefore, other people may have a different average speed from their DSL We tend to forget that DSL is an amazing trick to get

Re: [CGUYS] Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop

2008-03-15 Thread mike
Cable can do. Why else would Cox and Comcast be working with them to implement the so called p4p. You seem to have the same problem with spreading FUD about cable as you do about windows. Mike On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doing clever stuff, like

Re: [CGUYS] Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Rich Schinnell
Date:Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:09:08 -0400 From:Eric S. Sande [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop One hundred percent money back guarantee. That goes for just about everything we sell. If we can't do it we won't and we'll tell you why. If we can do it we guarantee

Re: [CGUYS] Cable vs DSL ( was Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop)

2008-03-15 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, mike wrote: Cable systems are built on ethernet technology, this is where the idea that you share your connection with the rest of the neighborhood, you are basically on the same network. Most if not all current cable modems are built to filter out packets not meant for

Re: [CGUYS] Investment Tracking Recommendations?

2008-03-15 Thread Matthew Taylor
Um, you must know of a different radical right than I do. The radical right I know would have slashed spending at the federal level, slashed or outright eliminated the income tax, never would have entered Iraq, would be out of Afghanistan by now, and would probably have a dollar so strong