The United States has the lowest corporate tax rates in the
industrialized world. That's effectively subsidizing just about all
corporations.
Never mind. You don't get it.
Man. That's some military-grade RDF. I see you still haven't connected the
dots as to why there is no significant compe
>I pay a third party for Usenet to get a couple of alt discusion groups I've
>participated in for a decade or more. Plus the alt groups are still
>available through google groups. I doubt Verizon can get away with blocking
>that service given the smack down Comcast got from the FCC last month for
>
> I only know what I've read, as I don't live in Verizon territory.
>
> http://www.giganews.com/verizon-sprint-special.html
> "According to a recent announcement, Verizon will stop providing
> access to alt.binaries newsgroups on their internal Usenet systems as
> of June 24, 2008. Sprint will s
Same for the monopolies that exist in cable and telco broadband that allow them
to set rates based on whatever they can get away with instead of letting the
market determine rates with competition, or providing quality broadband service
[and choice] without gouging the customers, as it is today
"AMERICANS today spend almost as much on bandwidth --- the capacity to
move information --- as we do on energy. A family of four likely spends
several hundred dollars a month on cellphones, cable television and
Internet connections, which is about what we spend on gas and heating oil.
Just as
Not so. It is the highest in the industrialized world. See Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_around_the_world
and click on the Corporate column to sort
b_s-wilk wrote:
The United States has the lowest corporate tax rates in the
industrialized world. That's effectively subsidizing ju
Not so. It is the highest in the industrialized world. See Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_around_the_world
and click on the Corporate column to sort
Forgot to add; the US Corporate tax rate is 35%, higher than all but a
few 3rd world countries in that list,
b_s-wilk wrote:
The
At 11:56 AM -0400 8/20/08, Steve at Verizon wrote:
Not so. It is the highest in the industrialized world. See Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_around_the_world
and click on the Corporate column to sort
Forgot to add; the US Corporate tax rate is 35%, higher than all but
a few 3rd
Don't confuse the published corporate tax rate with the amount of
corporate income that ends up actually paid to the IRS - there are
thousands of "loopholes" that result in half the US corporations paying
no tax at all and the rest paying very little.
Mike
Steve at Verizon wrote:
Not so. It
True. I only challenged the statement on the tax rate. I also omitted
the fact that the corporate rate is actually higher, if they pass
profits to shareholders as dividends. You then get double taxing of
profits, 35% corporate, and then 15% on the dividends.
The point is, the trend in most cou
The US corporate tax rate was listed as a range of rates, not 35%.
Includes none of the many business deductions or exclusions. That chart
is a joke for the purposes it was dragged out for. There must be some
useful data somewhere, but don't base your argument on Wiki's table of
nominal rates.
T
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I pay a third party for Usenet to get a couple of alt discussion groups
> I've
> >participated in for a decade or more. Plus the alt groups are still
> >available through google groups. I doubt Verizon can get away with
>
This a really scary conclusion, regardless of the questionable
accuracy of the premise.
How do you conclude that corporate income belongs to the state via
taxation, and any reduction in the tax take is a subsidy?
As an aside, what data do you have to support the accuracy of the
premise?
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:38 AM, b_s-wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I only know what I've read, as I don't live in Verizon territory.
> >
> > http://www.giganews.com/verizon-sprint-special.html
> > "According to a recent announcement, Verizon will stop providing
> > access to alt.binarie
To add to the mix, here's some reading material from recent news:
- from http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/13/business/13tax.html?fta=y
"Two out of every three United States corporations paid no federal
income taxes from 1998 through 2005, according to a report released
Tuesday by the Government
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Snyder, Mark (IT CIV)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> The US corporate tax rate was listed as a range of rates, not 35%.
> Includes none of the many business deductions or exclusions. That chart
> is a joke for the purposes it was dragged out for. There must be some
Modern business (corporations, etc.) is possible because of modern
government. It is Government that provides police protections and other
infrastructure required by all of us. The only way for all of us to
have these is to pay for them. If corporations pay less, then the rest
of us must pay for
And some more:
http://taxfoundation.org/press/show/23469.html
Washington, D.C., August 12, 2008 - An AP article today on the GAO's
new report on corporate tax liabilities contains a serious error that
undermines the story's thesis.
The AP reported that, according to the GAO study comparing
In response to the NYT editorial which stated that the US corporate tax
rates are among the highest in the industrial world, yet taxes paid are
among the lowest, here are some very good letters to the editor today on
reasons for this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/opinion/l20tax.html?_r=1&
You make several unsupported or undefined assumptions below:
1. Modern business depends on modern government. Please define these
terms? The limited liability corporation dates to at least the 16th
century, possibly before. When do you date the beginnings of "modern
government"? What i
Internal usenet refers to verizon using their own hardware for usenet. I
had an ISP who used a seperate company for usenet although the usenet was
included in the price.
Mike
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:38 AM, b_s-wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I only know what I've read, as I don't live
The wikipedia article you quote says about its table,
"This is a list of tax rates around the world. ... It is not intended
to represent the true tax burden to either the corporation or the
individual in the listed country."
So it's doesn't really settle the matter. On the contrary side,
accord
One of the letters that you were too lazy to read, points out that if
you have a very high stated tax rate, then you will employ an army of
lawyers to comb through all available loopholes to lower your legal tax
obligation. Again, there is a trend among both Old Europe and New Europe
to lower t
The United States needs to provide universal broadband access to keep up
with foreign competition. The challenge is to find the most cost
effective and affordable way to accomplish this. FIOS, VDSL, WiMax,
satellite, cable, public, private, partnerships, whatever does the job.
Everyone has a d
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