Re: [CGUYS] More DTV weirdness...

2009-08-01 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Richard P. wrote: > Last time I called WUSA about the poor reception problems, I asked the > receptionist for engineering and they put me through. The receptionist > usually doesn't have time to filter outside calls. Television broadcasters are notorious for bei

Re: [CGUYS] Gmail issue

2009-08-01 Thread betty
Seems like a travel vault would be an automatic first target for hacking by passport and identity forgers... and that Lonely Planet would not have the type and quality of IT staff or expertise to stay ahead of them... But they don't run it themselves and you can't find it. **

[CGUYS] Privacy [was: Gmail issue]

2009-08-01 Thread betty
No setup is absolutely 100% reliable, but I have yet to lose email with AOL (which does offer free IMAP access), Google or Yahoo. I have however had email and other files disappear from supposedly securely backed up providers. I do have to wonder just those folks with multiple gigs of photo or

Re: [CGUYS] Google: 2nd hit. Bing: Not in 100 hits.

2009-08-01 Thread Tony B
"1% own" is a really bad search, so let's not blame the search engine. First, it uses the % sign, which is often an operator. But worse, it's too short to get a meaningful response. That Google was able to get it on your first page probably has to do with you having browsed a story about it recentl

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-08-01 Thread Paul Meyer
Parents who have enough money to spend thousands on their kids electronics are probably spending ungodly hours at work in the first place to be able to afford it. Kids of "successful" parents typically feel ignored, or worse, don't realize what they've missed. Not a choice I would make personally.

Re: [CGUYS] Wish m luck...

2009-08-01 Thread Marcio
Yes Brian, I have two physical drives. I am booting from C: Now you made things interesting, go to he bios setup (scared...) ad see if I can select D: as the boot drive. Most likely I will be able too because my MB is not old... Mind you I have a Pentium4 an 3 giga memory... Many thanks Marcio

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...MORE

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Jul 31, 2009, at 4:41 PM, mike wrote: Too true. Marketshare in itself does not imply security or lack of. But logic does seem to dictate that those who go after the insecure OS's go after the one with larger marketshare since they don't seem to go after the one with smaller marketshare

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Jul 31, 2009, at 7:18 PM, mike wrote: Next day, six weeks...whatever... I accept your resignation. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and m

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-08-01 Thread mike
You must have missed the part where apple was notified of this security issue weeks ago...I know you wouldn't choose to ignore facts like that. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:01 AM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Jul 31, 2009, at 7:18 PM, mike wrote: > >> Next day, six weeks...whatever... >> > > I accept your r

Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 1, 2009, at 12:15 AM, betty wrote: My Dad got his first computer when he was in his 70s, a Quadra 605, moved on to a PM 6100, now has an indigo CRT iMac that's fading a bit--used them for a home business. He told me he wants a MacBook or MB Pro with WiFi. Likes his Macs a lot; says th

Re: [CGUYS] Wish m luck...

2009-08-01 Thread Marcio
I gethered enough courage and went to the bios...Yes, they have a Boot section with the names of my two physical drives and I chose which one I boot first. But on the Main, thi is what I got: Primary IDE drive Master (not detected) Primary IDE drive Slave (not detected) Secondary IDE drive Mas

Re: [CGUYS] Gmail issue

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Jul 31, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Art Clemons wrote: Actually if you download your mail from Gmail automatically via IMAP, you can have a locally available copy of all your mail. In fact if Gmail is set to allow you to work offline, you also can have a locally available copy of all your email via yo

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...MORE

2009-08-01 Thread mike
Right...that's why OS X gets taken out every time first time at the pwn to own. I know actual results and facts and stuff confudle you, but keep trying. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:00 AM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Jul 31, 2009, at 4:41 PM, mike wrote: > >> Too true. Marketshare in itself does not impl

Re: [CGUYS] More DTV weirdness...

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Jul 31, 2009, at 3:32 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I understand that they transmit on channel 48. However, I think that the problem of it displaying as channel 48 as opposed to displaying as channel 4 is something that goes awry on their end, not on my end. I did a little digging. The fau

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-08-01 Thread mike
Specifically to the topic...what happened to highly subsidized android phones? They cost as much or more then other PDA phones. I'm hoping and wishing the hero goes to verizon, but I can see the trend that it will run at least 200 if not 300 considering it's quality compared to the mytouch 200 do

Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 1, 2009, at 12:15 AM, betty wrote: My Dad got his first computer when he was in his 70s, a Quadra 605, moved on to a PM 6100, now has an indigo CRT iMac that's fading a bit--used them for a home business. He told me he wants a MacBook or MB Pro with WiFi. Likes his Macs a lot; says th

Re: [CGUYS] Privacy [was: Gmail issue]

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 1, 2009, at 7:11 AM, betty wrote: I don't like IMAP except for my iPod Touch. It's a pain to clean up more than location for email. I don't understand. I use IMAP from multiple locations and even leave the client running all the time on multiple computers. It all synchs up just fin

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...MORE

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 1, 2009, at 11:10 AM, mike wrote: Right...that's why OS X gets taken out every time first time at the pwn to own. I know actual results and facts and stuff confudle you, but keep trying. PSYCH 101: The most wretched and oppressed are often the ones who cling tightest to the belief t

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Business Her Way wrote: http://daringfireball.net/2009/07/microsofts_long_slow_decline John Gruber is a keen observer. M$ can't seem to gets its brain around the concept of quality. On reflection I'm thinking the "Laptop Hunters" ads may be a M$ suicide note.

Re: [CGUYS] Privacy [was: Gmail issue]

2009-08-01 Thread mike
I was thinking the same thing..I thought that's what IMAP was. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:27 AM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Aug 1, 2009, at 7:11 AM, betty wrote: > >> I don't like IMAP except for my iPod Touch. It's a pain to clean up more >> than location for >> email. >> > > I don't understand. I use

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ... NOT

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: In addition, Apple outsources the bulk of its production to China. You can do your own political calculations with that. The Macintosh is a Communist plot. I think I have heard that one before. And M$ has no dealings wit these

Re: [CGUYS] Gmail issue

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: I always wonder what people do to corrupt their pst files. I have about 100 people archiving their email into network based psts in Outlook, some multi GB, and have near zero corruption issues. The reason you see so few M$ problems is that yo

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...MORE

2009-08-01 Thread mike
I think yer in the wrong class...phych 101 is down the hall. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:37 AM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Aug 1, 2009, at 11:10 AM, mike wrote: > >> Right...that's why OS X gets taken out every time first time at the pwn to >> own. I know actual results and facts and stuff confudle yo

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...

2009-08-01 Thread mike
Funny how all the mac fan boi press are keen observers. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:42 AM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Business Her Way wrote: > > John Gruber is a keen observer. M$ can't seem to gets its brain around the > concept of quality. > > > > > **

[CGUYS] Tony's Search [Was Google: 2nd hit. Bing: Not in 100 hits}

2009-08-01 Thread Alvin Auerbach
Tony, I tried your suggestion, "one percent own wealth" Google said: No results found for "one percent own wealth"., Results for one percent own wealth (without quotes): Then all ten hits on the page were germane. - Bing said: We did not find any results for "one

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ... NOT

2009-08-01 Thread mike
MS hasn't thrown anyone out windows lately either. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:49 AM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: > >> In addition, Apple outsources the bulk of its production to China. You >> can >> do your own political calculations with tha

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ... NOT

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
M$ management in a panic starts fire sale... http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_30/b4140051491507.htm "Microsoft has long enjoyed Olympian profit margins, using its monopoly power to maintain prices on its software even in tough times. But now, amid a terrible downturn and risin

Re: [CGUYS] Tony's Search [Was Google: 2nd hit. Bing: Not in 100 hits}

2009-08-01 Thread mike
I never use bing, but I couldn't resist on this one. I searched for one percent own wealth and all of the first 15 links given were germane. All of them. http://www.bing.com/search?q=one+percent+own+wealth&go=&form=QBLH&qs=n Perhaps we need to start a site 'let me bing that for you' since some

Re: [CGUYS] Tony's Search [Was Google: 2nd hit. Bing: Not in 100 hits}

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 1, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Alvin Auerbach wrote: Bing had NO meaningful results! Did it not say... "Other resources that may help you: Google" That would be a terrible oversight. * ** List info, subscription managem

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ... NOT

2009-08-01 Thread mike
Oh, so that's why Apple lowers prices, panic.. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 9:32 AM, TPiwowar wrote: > M$ management in a panic starts fire sale... > > http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_30/b4140051491507.htm > > "Microsoft has long enjoyed Olympian profit margins, using its monopoly > po

Re: [CGUYS] Tony's Search [Was Google: 2nd hit. Bing: Not in 100 hits}

2009-08-01 Thread Chris Dunford
> Google said: > No results found for "one percent own wealth"., > Results for one percent own wealth (without quotes): > > Then all ten hits on the page were germane. > - > Bing said: > We did not find any results for "one percent own wealth". Your search shouldn'

Re: [CGUYS] Tony's Search [Was Google: 2nd hit. Bing: Not in 100 hits}

2009-08-01 Thread Alvin Auerbach
Tony did not suggest: one percent own wealth. He suggested: "one percent own wealth". So that's what I used as a search term. Note that Google, on its own, tried the search without the quotes when it didn't get results with the quotes, whereas Bing did not do that, or even suggest that.

Re: [CGUYS] Tony's Search [Was Google: 2nd hit. Bing: Not in 100 hits}

2009-08-01 Thread Alvin Auerbach
"But that doesn't change the fact that the original search was incorrect..." The test is not to see which person can parse his search in the most efficient manner for the search engine. The test is to see which search engine can respond in the most efficient manner for the person, even if t

Re: [CGUYS] Tony's Search [Was Google: 2nd hit. Bing: Not in 100 hits}

2009-08-01 Thread Tony B
Well, we all knew today's searches are personalized, didn't we? Long gone are the days of one index with an identical set of results for all of us. I thought it would go without saying you wouldn't include the quotes. :) Agreed the engine should have known to try it with and without quotes. A hum

Re: [CGUYS] Tony's Search [Was Google: 2nd hit. Bing: Not in 100 hits}

2009-08-01 Thread Chris Dunford
> The test is not to see which person can parse his search in the most > efficient manner for the search engine. Well, I don't think the decision to quote or not relates to phrasing a search "in the most efficient manner for the search engine". This is some pretty basic stuff; it's not some arca

Re: [CGUYS] Tony's Search [Was Google: 2nd hit. Bing: Not in 100 hits}

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 1, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Alvin Auerbach wrote: The first person reports back, "Yes, they have onions." The second person reports back, "Yes, they have onions, and they're $1.00 a pound; and they have 5 lb. bags for $4.00." Bing's advertising implies that Bing comes back with a delicious

Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...

2009-08-01 Thread db
WoW! Impressive... db betty wrote: I'm finding it very difficult to teach these seniors not to be afraid of the machines, and yet balance that with the security issues that they will find on their home computers. You are experience first hand the difference between getting Windows vs Mac

Re: [CGUYS] Tony's Search [Was Google: 2nd hit. Bing: Not in 100 hits}

2009-08-01 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting Alvin Auerbach : Tony, I tried your suggestion, "one percent own wealth" Tried the original search on Yahoo! It *suggested* these as search terms: "top 1% own" "1% ownership" "richest 1% own" "top 1% own 90%" "1% owns" Now if you go with the original, you get useless results. If you

Re: [CGUYS] Privacy [was: Gmail issue]

2009-08-01 Thread db
The only drawbacks to IMAP are: * that there is a very short lag when clicking on a folder etc. for the sync to occur * this syncing consumes some bandwidth * you are keeping a copy of all your mail on the server so you may have to pay for that space there ... or your employer

Re: [CGUYS] Tony's Search [Was Google: 2nd hit. Bing: Not in 100 hits}

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 1, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Reid Katan wrote: Gotta go with Tony on this one. It's not a good search term. Or as M$ would say... 00x2351000 rg=A601749071084-2 vq=h609124650458-12 za=73q4r98072186 qw=5123451564415 Press CTRL-ALT-DEL to continue... ***

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...

2009-08-01 Thread Jeff Wright
> > http://daringfireball.net/2009/07/microsofts_long_slow_decline > > John Gruber is a keen observer. M$ can't seem to gets its brain > around the concept of quality. Gruber is an MFB. All he is doing is confirming your biases. Would you consider a hard-right neocon analysis of the Democrats "

Re: [CGUYS] Gmail issue

2009-08-01 Thread Jeff Wright
> Ditto for Apple Mail, Thunderbird, and many others. My main concern > is that email storage be in a robust format that does not put > everything in one huge file. These formats are especially sweet to > use in conjunction with Time Machine backup. You never have to worry > about lost mail. The on

Re: [CGUYS] Gmail issue

2009-08-01 Thread Jeff Wright
> The reason you see so few M$ problems is that your staff are bringing > in MacBooks to get their real work done and run most of their email > via GMail. When they hear you coming the quickly but their Macs away. > Just like Stalag 13. Herr Doctor, you sound all too familiar with this concept, ex

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 1, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Gruber is an MFB. All he is doing is confirming your biases. Gruber is not a MFB. He often takes Apple to task. You seem to think that mere knowledge of Macs makes someone a fan boi. I see that in your mind only a know-nothing can be relied on

[CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-01 Thread TPiwowar
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/01/ AR2009080101074.html "Right about now, Apple probably wishes it had never rejected Google Voice and related apps from the iPhone. Or maybe it was AT&T who rejected the apps. Nobody really knows. But the FCC launched an invest

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
This should be interesting to see the relationship between Apple and AT&T. Stewart At 08:36 PM 8/1/2009, you wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/01/ AR2009080101074.html "Right about now, Apple probably wishes it had never rejected Google Voice and related app

[CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-01 Thread Tony B
Glenn claims you better not visit cars.gov (Cash for Clunkers) website, or the feds will own your computer. I am unable to reproduce his claims. (5 mins) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWs12ccbOiE * ** List info, subscripti

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...

2009-08-01 Thread Jeff Wright
> Gruber is not a MFB. He often takes Apple to task. You seem to think > that mere knowledge of Macs makes someone a fan boi. Sure, Tom, sure, whatever you say. When sturdy and dependable right-wingers, like Buchannan and Limbaugh, criticized Bush during his presidency, they weren't being Republi

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...

2009-08-01 Thread Jeff Wright
> On Aug 1, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: > > Gruber is an MFB. All he is doing is confirming your biases. > Then Tom wrote: > You attack on Gruber just shows how far out from reality > you are. Seriously? This is an "attack?" Really? Just how tender are your sensibilities? **

[CGUYS] Linus Torvalds: "Microsoft hatred is a disease"

2009-08-01 Thread Jeff Wright
I would call it Windows Derangement Syndrome. http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/07/linus-torvalds-microsoft-hatre d-is-a-disease.ars The quoted article is quite interesting. * ** List info, subscription manageme

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-01 Thread Jeff Wright
> "The iPhone needs to be smashed open, and the FCC is swinging the > hammer. " Yes, I'm sure the FCC is much more knowledgeable about running Apple than Apple is. The question is whether or not the FCC can squint its way past 1934. I'm not holding my breath, since it still has commissioners [co