Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread Eric S. Sande
Extrapolate for a national network. OK, for a FiOS level network that can be leveraged as technology improves with a 15-20 year time horizon, probably at least $300B. Based on our best projections we're going to spend at least $35B in our footprint, which is basically now the East coast corri

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
In the early years. All the astronauts were active duty military folks. NASA and the Military have been closely linked. Not a bad thing. Now do not get me wrong I do not see anything wrong with NASA being intimately linked with our military I do not consider military a bad thing. (I better

Re: [CGUYS] Just what is a computer anyway?

2010-02-19 Thread mike
So is the innovator the one who came up with 'app phones' or the one who popularized them? On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:53 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:22 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Both of my co-workers most decidedly use their cell phones more >> often for texting, playi

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread Jeff Miles
Not unless you know something the rest of us don't. I need to concede that we have satellites that monitor stuff. But Star Wars? No. And what does NASA and the constitution have to do with each other? Or did I forget that McDonalds and the constitution thing? Ok, McDonalds is a

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread rleesimon
I live in sNJ less than 1h by car from central Philly (from 7-9am and 3:30-6pm make that 2h)...and I have 3g at my home only if I shake the phone a lot!! And only one cable provider ...no fios ...nothin' -Original Message- From: b_s-wilk [mailto:b1sun...@yahoo.es] Sent: Thursday, Febru

Re: [CGUYS] Cell phone radiated power

2010-02-19 Thread rleesimon
...you mean the name should be "dumbphones" ?? -Original Message- From: phartz...@gmail.com [mailto:phartz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:55 PM Subject: Re: Cell phone radiated power On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: > As Bob Park likes to say, Albe

Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

2010-02-19 Thread rleesimon
Somebody hasta make the kiddie porn... some schools must have creative financing... -Original Message- From: phartz...@gmail.com [mailto:phartz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:54 PM Subject: Creepy or what? Parents: school used webcam to spy on our kid at home By Jacqu

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread mike
The tenth doesn't give much leeway. We strayed greatly and long ago. On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:31 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: > We, the people, are the government of the United States. >>> >> >> >> Yes, that's the way it is **supposed** to be. But it isn't, really. The >> federal government does all

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
You mean we don't? Stewart At 05:34 PM 2/19/2010, you wrote: I'm sorry, but you'll have to explain that. NASA and the constitution? What the hell are you thinking? One had nothing to do with the other, thank God. If it did we'd have military in space. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.ne

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread Jeff Miles
I'm sorry, but you'll have to explain that. NASA and the constitution? What the hell are you thinking? One had nothing to do with the other, thank God. If it did we'd have military in space. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite

Re: [CGUYS] Cell phone radiated power

2010-02-19 Thread rleesimon
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/ together with http://www.cell-mateus.com/aboutcell-mate.html ...let's start an investment fund!! -Original Message- From: John Duncan Yoyo [mailto:johnduncany...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:03 AM Subject: Re: Cell phone radiated power There was

Re: [CGUYS] Cell phone radiated power

2010-02-19 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: > As Bob Park likes to say, Albert Einstein won the Nobel Prize in 1905 for > showing that cell phones can't cause cancer. It seems to me that cell > phone-related cancer is what's mostly rejected "out of > hand". Mostly that is what was

Re: [CGUYS] Cell phone radiated power

2010-02-19 Thread rleesimon
Here you go .you should all get this thing .it's gonna cook yer brainz !! http://www.ismashphone.com/2009/01/cellmate-headset-keeps-cell-phone-at-your -ear-if-it-really-exists-that-is.html You are guaranteed to be a veritable "yoyo" in as little as a week (depending on how much brain you st

Re: [CGUYS] Cell phone radiated power

2010-02-19 Thread Chris Dunford
> It is funny how so many folks who have dismissed, out of hand, any > suggestion that the radiation from a cell phone has any effect upon > the brain or other bodily tissues have fully embraced this finding. As Bob Park likes to say, Albert Einstein won the Nobel Prize in 1905 for showing that

Re: [CGUYS] Cell phone radiated power

2010-02-19 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:08 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: > For those who are Google-impaired and will no doubt complain: > > http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-01/cell-phone-exposure-reverses-alzheimers-and-boosts-memory-mice It is funny how so many folks who have dismissed, out of hand

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread b_s-wilk
We, the people, are the government of the United States. Yes, that's the way it is **supposed** to be. But it isn't, really. The federal government does all sorts of extra-constitutional things, and gets away with it. Who is doing anything about it? Fred, The US Constitution gives a l

Re: [CGUYS] Cell phone radiated power

2010-02-19 Thread John DeCarlo
For those who are Google-impaired and will no doubt complain: http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-01/cell-phone-exposure-reverses-alzheimers-and-boosts-memory-mice On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:02 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: > There was a lengthy (for Popular Science) article on this this

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread b_s-wilk
phartz...@gmail.com escribió: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote: That's about it for now. Good post. I think that the FCC wants industry to get with the various governmental agencies and really get this issue hashed out...finally. I see that President Obama just signe

Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

2010-02-19 Thread Chris Dunford
> I don't pay a whole lot of attention, but I don't think I've ever seen a > laptop/notebook with a > **built-in** webcam. I think I'd be very suspicious of a school system that > issued computers with > them. No, lots and lots of laptops and netbooks have built-in webcams. There's nothing at

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread Chris Dunford
> If all these things are unconstitutional then someone would have > litigated it a long time ago and the Supreme Court would have declared so. > > So I do not buy it at all. Right. Every time I hear, "Show me where in the Constitution is says we can have X", I think, "I'll do that as soon as yo

Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

2010-02-19 Thread Stewart Marshall
It is the newest and neatest thing for manufacturers to build them in. Most often than not nowadays you will find them standard fare on laptops. We got two netbooks and one laptop in the last year and all of them had built in webcams. Stewart At 11:32 AM 2/19/2010, you wrote: At 08:53 PM

Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

2010-02-19 Thread Fred Holmes
At 08:53 PM 2/18/2010, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: >Parents: school used webcam to spy on our kid at home > >By Jacqui Cheng | Last updated February 18, 2010 12:23 PM I don't pay a whole lot of attention, but I don't think I've ever seen a laptop/notebook with a **built-in** webcam. I think I'd b

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread Fred Holmes
At 04:54 PM 2/18/2010, tjpa wrote: >You need to take a class in logic. You're probably right. I've been a global warming denier since day one. Which text book to you recommend? Is there an on-line class? Fred Holmes *

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread Stewart Marshall
I hear this all the time, and even the wacky flyer who killed an IRS agent yesterday spouted much of the same thing. Many times when someone says this, it is because someone else who has called themselves an expert has said it. When push comes to shove, the Supreme Court has always said you g

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread Fred Holmes
At 07:31 PM 2/18/2010, b_s-wilk wrote: >That's what unregulated corporate power does. From your comments, that's what >you want. You are either an unrepentant corporatist, or very confused. That's your strawman. It's not what I said. Fred Holmes **

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread Fred Holmes
At 07:31 PM 2/18/2010, b_s-wilk wrote: >We, the people, have our representatives appoint regulators to keep >corporations under control. Not really, I don't think. The president appoints the top regulators, with the advice and consent of the senate. But even the top regulators don't have a wh

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread Fred Holmes
At 11:30 PM 2/18/2010, b_s-wilk wrote: >I've been amazed at the obscure locations outside the US where I get all bars >on my cell phone, even in Mexico near the Belize border, or on remote Greek >islands. Similarly, broadband is so fast and pervasive [and cheap] in much of >Europe, high in the P

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread Fred Holmes
At 11:30 PM 2/18/2010, b_s-wilk wrote: >I wonder why it's not like that here. Oh, right, no national broadband policy >with conservatives fighting against it at every turn--for no good reason, just >to be against something. Just make it a key issue for the voters in the next election, and you wi

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread Fred Holmes
At 07:31 PM 2/18/2010, b_s-wilk wrote: >We, the people, are the government of the United States. Yes, that's the way it is **supposed** to be. But it isn't, really. The federal government does all sorts of extra-constitutional things, and gets away with it. Who is doing anything about it? F

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread Fred Holmes
At 02:01 PM 2/18/2010, tjpa wrote: >False! Do your homework before you start betting with my money. Don't understand. I'm not betting and I'm not touching your money. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, a

Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

2010-02-19 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:26 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: > Boy the prosecution of this could lead to no end of hurt.  If the school > district caused the taking of naked pictures of underage children wouldn't > they be guilty of child pornography?  If these pictures were moved between > servers o

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-19 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote: > That's about it for now. Good post. I think that the FCC wants industry to get with the various governmental agencies and really get this issue hashed out...finally. I see that President Obama just signed an Executive Order, making it a