Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-05 Thread Robert Carroll
FDR??? Herbert Hoover is closer to the mark for that one. But methinks, hiding in shrubbery, is a President who might be named that is more contemporary. OK, maybe choosing FDR is a satirical poke at someone's belief. Matthew Taylor wrote: FDR On Aug 2, 2009, at 5:36 PM, phartz...@gmail.

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-03 Thread Jeff Wright
> -Original Message- > On Aug 3, 2009, at 8:11 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: > > More of your insults is all you have to offer. I think I am done > > bothering with you. > > From: TPiwowar > > Good. But I wrote nothing insulting. Feigning insult is just another > of your evasive tactics. CGUY

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-03 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 3, 2009, at 8:11 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: More of your insults is all you have to offer. I think I am done bothering with you. Good. But I wrote nothing insulting. Feigning insult is just another of your evasive tactics. **

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-03 Thread Matthew Taylor
Tom; More of your insults is all you have to offer. I think I am done bothering with you. Sent from my phone. On Aug 3, 2009, at 7:44 PM, TPiwowar wrote: On Aug 3, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: Why would you suppose I am not being serious ("real")? Because it is you MO. You m

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-03 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 3, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: Why would you suppose I am not being serious ("real")? Because it is you MO. You make outrageous claims with nothing to back them up and then you repeatedly refuse to acknowledge facts presented by others. You totally waste everybody's time.

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-03 Thread Matthew Taylor
Did I say Hoover was a hero? That is a straw man argument worthy of Tom. Matthew On Aug 3, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: So Hoover was the real hero? You must drink the Kool-Aid every 15 minutes. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Why would you suppose

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-03 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
So Hoover was the real hero? You must drink the Kool-Aid every 15 minutes. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Why would you suppose I am not being serious ("real")? FDR (and his allies) dealt a mortal blow to our system of a limited government of enumerated powers. ***

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-03 Thread Matthew Taylor
Why would you suppose I am not being serious ("real")? FDR (and his allies) dealt a mortal blow to our system of a limited government of enumerated powers. His economic policies whipsawed private enterprise, badly hampering any ability to plan long term and thus to re-invest in the economy

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-03 Thread mike
] On Behalf Of Constance > > Warner > > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:55 AM > > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab > > > > Oh, do get real. In the 1930's, there was 25% unemployment [much > > higher in som

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-03 Thread Chris Dunford
terguy...@listserv.aol.com] > On Behalf Of Constance > Warner > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:55 AM > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab > > Oh, do get real. In the 1930's, there was 25% unemployment [much > higher in s

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread Constance Warner
Oh, do get real. In the 1930's, there was 25% unemployment [much higher in some places], starvation, ecological collapse, foreign wars on the horizon, large numbers of internally displaced people, native fascism, a growing U.S. communist party [partly supported by the Soviet Union], and an

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread Matthew Taylor
Agreed. My point was that what some worship, others loathe. A statue / monument does not make someone great, it only makes them popular with those as had the pull to erect the monument. Matthew On Aug 2, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Anyone or anything can be and are wo

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Anyone or anything can be and are worshipped. Stewart At 08:59 PM 8/2/2009, you wrote: Reverend; If you don't think FDR is worshiped by many you are not paying attention. Matthew Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL

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2009-08-02 Thread Matthew Taylor
Reverend; If you don't think FDR is worshiped by many you are not paying attention. Matthew On Aug 2, 2009, at 9:52 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: There are differences between shines and monuments/memorials. One is for the purposes of remembrance one is for the purpose of worship.

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
There are differences between shines and monuments/memorials. One is for the purposes of remembrance one is for the purpose of worship. Most of the ones you mentioned are no longer with us, having been destroyed when the worship of those folks fell into abeyance. Honestly I think a monument s

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread Jeff Wright
> I know, I know, there is no such monument in lalaland. It's behind the Juniors section. http://tinyurl.com/kkpg6m * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread Matthew Taylor
There were monuments to Lenin, Stalin, Hussein, Mao, et. al. Your point? On Aug 2, 2009, at 9:35 PM, TPiwowar wrote: On Aug 2, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: FDR was the last one to do such serious, systemic, harm that it the effects are still active today. That's why a grateful

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 2, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: FDR was the last one to do such serious, systemic, harm that it the effects are still active today. That's why a grateful nation built a huge monument to honor him. I know, I know, there is no such monument in lalaland. BTW, it really is a gr

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread Matthew Taylor
You said totaled, not damaged. Lots of P's have damaged it, R & D both. Bush II, Clinton, Bush I, Carter, Nixon, Johnson. FDR was the last one to do such serious, systemic, harm that it the effects are still active today. On Aug 2, 2009, at 6:36 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Au

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 6:45 PM, mike wrote: > I didn't answer, so you don't know who I meant. Oh, yes I did. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a mem

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2009-08-02 Thread mike
I didn't answer, so you don't know who I meant. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:36 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Matthew Taylor > wrote: > > > FDR > > That's who I thought you meant. Hadda be a democrat, right? I was > thinkin' of someone else. > > Steve > > >

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 2, 2009, at 3:10 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: This "News Anchor," some hottie brunette, was saying that the site was installing "malware cookies" on the computers of folks who were navigating to the site. She is clearly an IT expert as well as having been a beauty queen prior to being h

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 5:51 PM, mike wrote: > I never said he was right.  I just said the site exists. Worse than not right. Call it outright fabrication. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, ar

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2009-08-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: > FDR That's who I thought you meant. Hadda be a democrat, right? I was thinkin' of someone else. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, arch

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread mike
Are you sure? I think the FEMA camps are there... On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:12 PM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Aug 2, 2009, at 5:51 PM, mike wrote: > >> I never said he was right. I just said the site exists. >> > > I tracked it down. It is here... > http://maps.google.com/maps?latlng=5796664799538147

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 2, 2009, at 5:51 PM, mike wrote: I never said he was right. I just said the site exists. I tracked it down. It is here... http://maps.google.com/maps?latlng=5796664799538147458 * ** List info, subscription mana

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 2, 2009, at 4:54 PM, mike wrote: BTW, the warning that Beck describes does come up, and it does come from a .gov website but it's the esc.gov website. Yuck! The esc.gov website is really gross. It uses spacer.gifs! OMG! It uses spacer.gifs! It uses tables for layout! OMG! It uses tab

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread Matthew Taylor
FDR On Aug 2, 2009, at 5:36 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, who was this last President who totaled our economy? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness,

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread mike
I never said he was right. I just said the site exists. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 2:36 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:54 PM, mike wrote: > > > BTW, the warning that Beck describes does come up, and it does come from > a > > .gov website but it's the esc.gov website. Th

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:54 PM, mike wrote: > BTW, the warning that Beck describes does come up, and it does come from a > .gov website but it's the esc.gov website.  The page Beck was showing was > for dealers, LOGIN/PASS protected for dealers enrolled in the cash for > slaughtering pigs...I mean

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread mike
BTW, the warning that Beck describes does come up, and it does come from a .gov website but it's the esc.gov website. The page Beck was showing was for dealers, LOGIN/PASS protected for dealers enrolled in the cash for slaughtering pigs...I mean buying clunkers program. I keep confusing this pres

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread mike
That neocon label you toss around is really a moving target, I can't get a lock on who manages to become one of those except those who you don't agree with and you don't want to actually debate and just start calling names. BTW, the other boob that was elected is doing the same thing, he's just be

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Tony B wrote: > Glenn claims you better not visit cars.gov (Cash for Clunkers) > website, or the feds will own your computer. I am unable to reproduce > his claims. > > (5 mins) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWs12ccbOiE I also experimented by going to the CARS

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 1, 2009, at 10:02 PM, Tony B wrote: Glenn claims you better not visit cars.gov (Cash for Clunkers) website, or the feds will own your computer. Pretty typical con/neocon stuff. We see enough of that here. Some people just prefer to live in lalaland. Just imagine if John McCain had wo

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread Chris Dunford
> You are being too kind. Glenn Beck is about as bright as canned tuna. Well, the posters on Fox Nation disagree. In their view he's some kind of a god. Of course, Ann Coulter is too liberal for some of them (I am not making this up). **

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread Jeff Wright
You are being too kind. Glenn Beck is about as bright as canned tuna. > -Original Message- > Mr. Beck, and I am being kind here to refer to him so reverentially, > also said just a few days ago, again on Fox, that President Obama is > most definitely a racist. A racist. He hates, h-a-

Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Tony B wrote: > Glenn claims you better not visit cars.gov (Cash for Clunkers) > website, or the feds will own your computer. I am unable to reproduce > his claims. Mr. Beck, and I am being kind here to refer to him so reverentially, also said just a few days ag

[CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab

2009-08-01 Thread Tony B
Glenn claims you better not visit cars.gov (Cash for Clunkers) website, or the feds will own your computer. I am unable to reproduce his claims. (5 mins) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWs12ccbOiE * ** List info, subscripti