[CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-09 Thread mike
So in a little over seven hours the Large Hadron Collider will be switched on...any takers on if we'll all survive? I've set up a google alert to my cell phone for the big event. The question is if all goes wrong, will I get the msg before or after? http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/ Mike **

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I understand that the dangerous stuff where we could be swallowed in a black hole doesn't start for a few months. Brings to mind the bets they took at Los Alamos about whether the first a-bomb in Alamogordo would set fire to the atmosphere. And only slightly more media coverage of this one -

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-09 Thread Jeff Wright
You asked this question a week ago. And the week before that...and the week before that...Come to think about it, the weeks have all seemed very similar. Am I the only one who remembers this? > -Original Message- > So in a little over seven hours the Large Hadron Collider will be > switc

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-09 Thread Eric S. Sande
So in a little over seven hours the Large Hadron Collider will be switched on...any takers on if we'll all survive? I've set up a google alert to my cell phone for the big event. The question is if all goes wrong, will I get the msg before or after? My brother the astrophysicist and my frien

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-09 Thread Robert Michael Abrams
At 05:04 PM 9/9/2008, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So in a little over seven hours the Large Hadron Collider will be switched on...any takers on if we'll all survive? I've set up a google alert to my cell phone for the big event. The question is if all goes wrong, will I get the msg before

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Arthur Poudrier
At 08:02 PM 9/9/2008, you wrote: My brother the astrophysicist and my friend's brother who works at CERN seem to be calm. On the other hand my brother shot himself in the nose with a spear gun when he was 16 (no kidding) and my friend's brother was involved in that rap video. Worst case is tha

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Eric S. Sande
Yes, but the question remains, "Big Bang Breakfast Bar" or "The Restaurant at the End of the Universe"? Heh. The CERN people say if it happens it (the black hole) would be so small as to be completely unstable and would not persist for more than an infinitesmal period of time. They also argue

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread mike
Would we have to deal with Al Gore's company selling black hole offsets? On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Eric S. Sande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Even if they do manage to create a tiny, stable black hole it will > take a very long time for it to eat a planet. >

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, mike wrote: Would we have to deal with Al Gore's company selling black hole offsets? Or worse yet, Bush claiming that the black hole is a natural phenomenon, so we don't need to do anything about it. :-) On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Eric S. Sande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread John DeCarlo
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Vicky Staubly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, mike wrote: > >> Would we have to deal with Al Gore's company selling black hole offsets? >> > > Or worse yet, Bush claiming that the black hole is a natural phenomenon, > so we don't need to do anythi

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread mike
That's true, it's not like there aren't any other black holes in the universe... On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Vicky Staubly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, mike wrote: > >> Would we have to deal with Al Gore's company selling black hole offsets? >> > > Or worse yet, Bush cla

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Nobody really KNOWS what is going to happen, but that's the >whole point of the experiment. Risk is computed as the product of (probability of occurrence) times (the degree of horribleness of the event). So "probability of occurrence" is a very small number. What value for "degree of horrible

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Michael Fernando
> What value for "degree of horribleness" do you assign to "total > destruction of the planet?" 42 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread mike
If no one is here to measure it, is there any horribleness at all? On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What value for "degree of horribleness" do you assign to "total > destruction of the planet?" > >

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Eric S. Sande
Risk is computed as the product of (probability of occurrence) times (the degree of horribleness of the event). So "probability of occurrence" is a very small number. What value for "degree of horribleness" do you assign to "total destruction of the planet?" Ah, I'm going to punt on that

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
>If no one is here to measure it, is there any horribleness at all? So how quickly does a mini-black hole eat all of creation? Do we watch Europe vanish all at once or over a period of weeks? Does a weakened earth start to break up into chunks? At what point does the atmosphere evaporate? ***

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Fred Holmes
At 11:07 PM 9/10/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: >At what point does the atmosphere >evaporate? It already is vapor! A Gas! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a memb

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Fred Holmes
At 09:44 PM 9/10/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: >What value for "degree of horribleness" do you assign to "total >destruction of the planet?" Zero? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-11 Thread MrMike6by9
Well, I guess that's when it ceases to be an S.E.P. (Someone Else's Problem) - Douglas N. Adams (1952-2001) - Date:Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:29:24 -0400 From:"Eric S. Sande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: LHC >Risk is computed as the product of (probability of occurrence)

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-17 Thread Paul Meyer
Anyway to get a black hole to suck up CO2? --- On Thu, 9/11/08, Fred Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Fred Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] LHC > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 12:07 AM > At 09:4

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-18 Thread Fred Holmes
At 11:06 PM 9/17/2008, Paul Meyer wrote: >Anyway to get a black hole to suck up CO2? Of course, but it sucks up everything else also. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-18 Thread Paul Meyer
; wrote: > From: Arthur Poudrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] LHC > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:35 AM > At 08:02 PM 9/9/2008, you wrote: > > >My brother the astrophysicist and my friend's > brother who

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-18 Thread Eric S. Sande
Okay, hearing about the CERN astrophysicist who shot himself in the nose with a spear gun is one of the funniest (though perhaps I should be disturbed) stories in a long time. I do have to ask, what is "that rap video"? The spear gun astrophysicist is my brother. He works at GSFC, not CERN. Th