Graphicconverter is great. And it doesn't take a half minute to
open. I'm still using it in nonpaid mode and it only takes about
10-15secs. to open. Due to Graphic Converter I've pretty much stopped
using Photoshop, which does take about a full minute to open.
Jeff M
On May 9, 2009, at
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote:
Graphicconverter is great. And it doesn't take a half minute to open.
I'm still using it in nonpaid mode and it only takes about 10-15secs. to
open. Due to Graphic Converter I've pretty much stopped using Photoshop,
As it happens, I just ran across a new writeup of eight free, lightweight
Photoshop alternatives:
http://tinyurl.com/qr6dow
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On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Did no one read my post of a few days ago?
The pictures are not in Picassa.
They are in:
Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in ...
You are not letting go of the old way of seeing things. The pictures are
in
Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net escribió:
Graphicconverter is great. And it doesn't take a half minute to open.
I'm still using it in nonpaid mode and it only takes about 10-15secs. to
open. Due to Graphic Converter I've pretty much stopped using Photoshop,
which does take about a full minute
If you are not a regular user of Picassa, you may not know that a right
mouse click on a photo provides an option to Locate On Disk which pops
up the folder in which the photo resides.
John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Did no one
I have yet to see a backup program offer to backup all the pictures
'in' photoshop. Reason? It's a stupid concept.
Bad comparison. Photoshop is not a photo manager. The closest it comes to
that is Bridge with VersionCue and there I would say the pics are in
VersionCue. Adobe sells a photo
Over a long IT career, I did go from knowing exactly which volume and
track numbers had my data, to letting the OS manage the data, not caring
where or even what type of media it was on. But that was within one
responsible enterprise.
Thank you. Good example.
I guess I AM having problems with
For that matter, the WalMart website has some easy editing features with
good quality prints and matte finish for the same price ...it warns you if
the pixilation is not appropriate for the size requested ...it also offers
something cool, a uncropped odd size print that is wider so you don't lose
GIMP has lots of details and features ...quite steep learning curve for
novice
Picasa is idiotware
The others I don't know...
Microsoft is offering Windows Live with lots of picture manipulation
software...
I have windowsXP and I still use PhotoEd.exe (came with office 2002/2003
...deleted from
My wife will be running Windows XP.
I just spent a few hours with the latest version of iPhoto. It actually
makes it difficult to maintain a files-in-folders mindset. It
automatically imports photos when the camera is connected with very
little user interaction. It organizes photos into events
WHERE the pics are is important because some of those pics should be
backed up. Ask the average Picasa user where their pictures are, and
you'll get an absurd answer like They're in Picasa!.
That is a perfectly sensible and correct answer. No better and no worse
than saying that the files are
Did no one read my post of a few days ago?
The pictures are not in Picassa.
They are in:
Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in ...
And (for Windows) if you don't modify with the above after installing
Picassa, the default is the My Pictures folder in My Documents.
How much
Isn't the exact location of the photos designated [by the user] in
Preferences? Or, on a Mac, the photos would automatically be stored in
the Pictures folder. On a PC it might default to My Documents. A good
backup program would be set to look for changes, additions, deletions
anyway.
Yes.
Did no one read my post of a few days ago?
The pictures are not in Picassa.
They are in:
Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in ...
You are not letting go of the old way of seeing things. The pictures are
in Picassa and the are in iPhoto. These programs work differently
than the
WTF are you talking about? The pictures are NOT in a program.
Programs cannot have pictures 'in' them. They are on the hard drive.
I have yet to see a backup program offer to backup all the pictures
'in' photoshop. Reason? It's a stupid concept.
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Tom Piwowar
I'll admit to being folder centric. Yes, I've heard about new ways of
organizing photos by characteristics, but for me, it makes sense to know
where all my photos are and that they can be backed up easily just by
copying My Pictures to another external HD.
Over a long IT career, I did go from
2009/5/8 John Mealey III john.meal...@verizon.net:
My wife has requested photo editing software for her new computer.
I am at a loss at the moment having just tanked on the CCNA exam and
could use a good suggestion to get this purchased and off my
'honey do' list for this weekend.
It does
The issue for you, of course, is that there are many options available.
Price and and the learning curve will vary. Since you don't already know
what she wants, I'm guessing she's just getting started and so needs a
new-user-friendly application that has the controls she will need.
My first
If we're taking a vote, I'd put Picasa at the bottom of any list. Yes,
it simplifies things, but it does so by *hiding* everything from the
user.
i.e., First, users have no idea *where* they're keeping their
pictures. Might be in c root, might be 15 levels down. File management
techniques are one
Won't address your other criticisms, but File Management couldn't be easier.
Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in
I manage all in a My Pictures folder on an external HD.
Tony B wrote:
If we're taking a vote, I'd put Picasa at the bottom of any list. Yes,
it simplifies things,
Wired Magazine's March issue had a story about netbooks
http://www.wired.com/wired/issue/17-03 that asked What about
Photoshop? Their answer is http://fotoflexer.com/. Flickr.com also has
photo editing tools.
Betty
My wife has requested photo editing software for her new computer.
I am at
So we have:
GIMP
Picasa
Corel Paint Shop Pro
Adobe Elements
Nikon Software with her camera
I'm leaning to Picasa as hiding how some things
operate might be useful in this particular case.
Thanks,
John
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i.e., First, users have no idea *where* they're keeping their
pictures. Might be in c root, might be 15 levels down. File management
techniques are one of the first things a digital photographer MUST
learn. Not with Picasa.
This can be a problem for folks who can't let go of old ideas. Picasa is
Picasa isn't a professional or enthusiast's editor but it enables others
... of which there are many now that digital cameras are $129 and
everywhere ... to upload, process, publish, edit, send or publish their
pics with a minimum of learning curve, skills and fuss.
Yes... professionals/
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM, John Mealey III
john.meal...@verizon.net wrote:
So we have:
GIMP
Picasa
Corel Paint Shop Pro
Adobe Elements
Nikon Software with her camera
We do not know what OS is involved in this query about photo editing
software. For the Mac, there is Graphic
Picasa is now available for OS X...
db
phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM, John Mealey III
john.meal...@verizon.net wrote:
So we have:
GIMP
Picasa
Corel Paint Shop Pro
Adobe Elements
Nikon Software with her camera
We do not know what OS is involved in this
Wired Magazine's March issue had a story about netbooks
http://www.wired.com/wired/issue/17-03 that asked What about
Photoshop? Their answer is http://fotoflexer.com/. Flickr.com also has
photo editing tools.
This looks really interesting, Betty. Thanks!
Male bovine manure!
What exactly is the connection between storing files in places
unknown or invisible to the user and technological advances?
On May 9, 2009, at 3:24 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system
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Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com
Date: May 9, 2009 1:05:12 PM EDT
Gramps exclaimed:
Male bovine manure!
What exactly is the connection between storing files in places
unknown or invisible to the user and technological advances?
You probably still insist on calling it DASD too.
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Because doing these things themsel;ves *teaches* people about how
they're done. Yes, you can GIVE them fish, but if you don't teach them
HOW to fish, they'll always be stupid.
WHERE the pics are is important because some of those pics should be
backed up. Ask the average Picasa user where their
My wife has requested photo editing software for her new computer.
I am at a loss at the moment having just tanked on the CCNA exam and
could use a good suggestion to get this purchased and off my
'honey do' list for this weekend.
It does not have to be free, open source, etc, needs to run on
What does she want to do? Just get rid of red eye or is she a pro? A pro
in the making?
Go with the free one first...if she has no preference..GIMP is a good
alternative.
2009/5/8 John Mealey III john.meal...@verizon.net
My wife has requested photo editing software for her new computer.
I
It does not have to be free, open source, etc, needs to run on XP, and
can't break the bank (I E Photoshop full edition).
Picasa is free and quite useful for basic editing and organizing. Online
sharing is very useful.
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Corel Paint Shop Pro.
Very good compared to Photoshop.
Stewart
At 07:28 PM 5/8/2009, you wrote:
My wife has requested photo editing software for her new computer.
I am at a loss at the moment having just tanked on the CCNA exam and
could use a good suggestion to get this purchased and off
I would say start with Picasa because you can have it installed and
running in 5 mins for free and it's use is so transparent. If it isn't
enough, move on.
db
Tom Piwowar wrote:
It does not have to be free, open source, etc, needs to run on XP, and
can't break the bank (I E Photoshop full
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