Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile Sidekick Data Lost Forever

2009-10-27 Thread Allen Firstenberg
The quote from MS itself (which I found at sidekick.com) was most, if not all. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:44 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) said early Thursday that it has been able to recover the personal data lost on many of T-Mobile USA's

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile Sidekick Data Lost Forever

2009-10-15 Thread tjpa
On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Mike Sloane wrote: [This is going to put a crimp in the efforts to convince people that computing in the cloud is a good idea. MS] UPDATE: Microsoft Says It Has Recovered Lost Sidekick Data http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091015-710685.html

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile Sidekick Data Lost Forever

2009-10-15 Thread mike
NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) said early Thursday that it has been able to recover the personal data lost on many of T-Mobile USA's Sidekick users. Many...that sounds like government math. It would be interesting to see what 'many' means in this context. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile Sidekick Data Lost Forever

2009-10-15 Thread Fred Holmes
Well, it's great that the data is being recovered, and likely will be mostly / entirely recovered, but it's been gone for about two weeks now, and is being recovered progressively. A two-week plus interruption in service is not a very good recommendation for the cloud. At 01:26 PM 10/15/2009,

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile Sidekick Data Lost Forever

2009-10-15 Thread tjpa
On Oct 15, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: Well, it's great that the data is being recovered, and likely will be mostly / entirely recovered, but it's been gone for about two weeks now, and is being recovered progressively. A two-week plus interruption in service is not a very good

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile Sidekick Data Lost Forever

2009-10-15 Thread Fred Holmes
At 02:42 PM 10/15/2009, tjpa wrote: Blaming the cloud for this disaster is very wrong. There is no reason to believe that M$'s major competitors are as bad as managing their infrastructure as M$ seems to be. M$ did not make proper backups. That is not a cloud problem, that is a facilities

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile Sidekick Data Lost Forever

2009-10-15 Thread Chris Dunford
Some bloggers have speculated that this outage was engineered to put the scare into us about cloud services. M$ is not ready to compete in this arena and anything to slow down acceptance would certainly be to M $'s benefit. There's always a conspiracy theorist. MS probably can't produce its

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile Sidekick Data Lost Forever

2009-10-15 Thread mike
Even if they did produce it, there would still be wackos that denied it was real. While not taking any blame from MS, this was outsourced to a third party who did the deed. I'm thinking Google doesn't outsource it's could based stuff like picasa etc? Or does it? On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:46

[CGUYS] T-Mobile Sidekick Data Lost Forever

2009-10-12 Thread Mike Sloane
[This is going to put a crimp in the efforts to convince people that computing in the cloud is a good idea. MS] Posted: Monday, 12 October 2009 9:47AM T-Mobile Sidekick Data Lost Forever NEW YORK (AP) -- Owners of Sidekick phones, made by a Microsoft subsidiary and sold by T-Mobile USA, may

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
well, would somebody be good enuf to repeat the info...please! With considerable effort, two easy-to-use online archives were set up for the List. Should we have not bothered? What is your aversion to using the archive?

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread b_s-wilk
WARNING: Rant I just got a notice from T-Mobile. They raised their fees for SMS/text to 20 cents incoming/outgoing. That's outrageous! Is this a reaction to a US market that doesn't complain when prices are raised for no reason? Or is this to counter the European Union's actions to reduce

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread mike
People aren't happy about AT$T's new pricing either. Text is practically free to send but because of it's increasing use, I think the telcos are raking in some extra cash. I've been fairly lucky as I have tmobile, but I got in under the unlimited text for 10 bux a month. I have no data plan

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread Larry Sacks
store. Larry -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of b_s-wilk Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:56 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile? WARNING: Rant I just got a notice from T-Mobile. They raised

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread mike
] T-Mobile? WARNING: Rant I just got a notice from T-Mobile. They raised their fees for SMS/text to 20 cents incoming/outgoing. That's outrageous! Is this a reaction to a US market that doesn't complain when prices are raised for no reason? Or is this to counter the European Union's actions

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
In the US and Canada Cell phone coverage is at best a regional thing. As I remember it, Cell phone areas at first were sold off to regional carriers, and so as they have merged they have kept pretty much to regional type coverage. Plus many of the domestic cell phone companies are legacies

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread Judy Cosler
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of b_s-wilk Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:56 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile? WARNING: Rant I just got a notice from T-Mobile. They raised their fees for SMS/text to 20 cents incoming/outgoing. That's outrageous! Is this a reaction to a US

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Larry Sacks wrote: T-Mobile has a strong presence in Southern California... I was with them for about 35 days and their customer service people were beyond incompetent. Heck, you couldn't even get a decent at the local T-Mobile store. A decent _what_? -- Vicky Staubly

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread mike
In some cases, apples and baseballs. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is easy to complain when you compare apples and plums. Stewart * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread Judy Cosler
couldn't even get a decent at the local T-Mobile store. Larry -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of b_s-wilk Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:56 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile? WARNING: Rant I just got

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Depending on your little or no coverage and maybe higher cost coverage. It may also mean analog versus digital. Verizon does this with their pre-paid service. The coverage is not nearly as good as their conventual coverage. Stewart At 02:37 PM 7/25/2008, you wrote: and, the Carolinas

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread gerald
go here for information overload: http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?s=253b9c041bc57e66c559bcf81663c3c0forumid=34 they know more about cell phones than cguys know about macs. and they are even more anal than cguys, if that is humanly possible(both groups may be a sub specie of

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread Larry Sacks
Whoops... so much for proofing my email before sending... :-) decent signal -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vicky Staubly Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:59 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] T

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
T-Mobile has a strong presence in Southern California... I was with them for about 35 days and their customer service people were beyond incompetent. Heck, you couldn't even get a decent at the local T-Mobile store. I agree that the T-Mobile stores are terrible, but you can get T-Mobile

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
anybody know about their coverage in SC, NC, MD, DC, VA? seems good from the maps. Well, i've only check the Carolinas. I have never lacked connectivity in the DC metro area, except when working in basements and certain monumental buildings with very heavy walls or when riging the Metro. The

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread mike
Holy nokia batman I agree with Tom. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not agree with you about their call-in customer service people. I love dealing with T-Mobile over the phone. Wait times are short. They are courteous and efficient. They know their

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread Larry Sacks
to agree to disagree on their call-in customer service. Larry -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:31 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile? T-Mobile has

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-25 Thread Larry Sacks
Don't be too surprised.. it does happen every now and then... ;-) -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:59 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile? Holy nokia batman

[CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-24 Thread Judy Cosler
was it on this list that somebody recently posted about using a cheapie T-Mobile plan? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-24 Thread Judy Cosler
well, would somebody be good enuf to repeat the info...please! Tom Piwowar wrote: was it on this list that somebody recently posted about using a cheapie T-Mobile plan? Yes. * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-24 Thread Richard P.
You might find it doing a search on the C-Guys page. I found this for you which might help: http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=t-mobilel=computerguys-l%40listserv.aol.com In the meantime, you'll have to forgive the previous response Richard P. well, would somebody be good enuf to repeat

Re: [CGUYS] T-Mobile?

2008-07-24 Thread mike
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/ Hit the prepaid link on the left. That will tell you all about the plan. Mike On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might find it doing a search on the C-Guys page. I found this for you which might help: