Re: [CGUYS] The "Cloud" stole her data...

2009-12-09 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:02 AM, tjpa wrote: > Have you checked the service agreement? Some sites have free and pay plans > with different limits. I dunno if she has taken a look at the service agreement or not. It may be one of those essentially indecipherable legalistic documents that requi

Re: [CGUYS] The "Cloud" stole her data...

2009-12-09 Thread tjpa
On Dec 9, 2009, at 7:36 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, yes. She has all that deleted data. She is just quite annoyed about having to restore it on her Classmates site and does not understand why or how Classmates decided which of her images to retain and which to delete. I'll have to ask h

Re: [CGUYS] The "Cloud" stole her data...

2009-12-09 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM, mike wrote: > Does she have local backups? Oh, yes. She has all that deleted data. She is just quite annoyed about having to restore it on her Classmates site and does not understand why or how Classmates decided which of her images to retain and which to del

Re: [CGUYS] The "Cloud" stole her data...

2009-12-08 Thread mike
Does she have local backups? On Nov 13, 2009 7:28 AM, "John Duncan Yoyo" wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:06 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 7:49 AM, John Duncan Yoyo > < johnduncany...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Class... Classmates, Facebook etc. are sharing services not

Re: [CGUYS] The "Cloud" stole her data...

2009-11-14 Thread db
Google Picasa Web storage is now about .02 cents / mo / GB. I wonder if Google is going to get into backup and data storage like Amazon has? Amazon charges .15 cents / mo / GB for that... db John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:06 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov

Re: [CGUYS] The "Cloud" stole her data...

2009-11-13 Thread Stewart Marshall
Except for Card processing companies which have shown repeatedly that they are extremely vulnerable to data hacks as they keep everything and I mean everything together in one place. Stewart At 11:32 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote: When I was working on my dissertation my policy was to keep a copy

Re: [CGUYS] The "Cloud" stole her data...

2009-11-13 Thread tjpa
On Nov 13, 2009, at 9:21 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: The cloud is good as a third string backup for when the house burns down. When I was working on my dissertation my policy was to keep a copy in at least 3 different states. That was before the days of the web so I was just mailing photoc

Re: [CGUYS] The "Cloud" stole her data...

2009-11-13 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:06 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 7:49 AM, John Duncan Yoyo > wrote: > > > Classmates.com isn't really the cloud it is just a smoky room. > > > > She should probably duplicate her organizing efforts on Facebook as well > as > > using one of the

Re: [CGUYS] The "Cloud" stole her data...

2009-11-13 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 7:49 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: > Classmates.com isn't really the cloud it is just a smoky room. > > She should probably duplicate her organizing efforts on Facebook as well as > using one of the online photo storage options as a backup. She keeps her backups on good o

Re: [CGUYS] The "Cloud" stole her data...

2009-11-13 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Classmates.com isn't really the cloud it is just a smoky room. She should probably duplicate her organizing efforts on Facebook as well as using one of the online photo storage options as a backup. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 7:10 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > My number one friend has an account

[CGUYS] The "Cloud" stole her data...

2009-11-13 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
My number one friend has an account at Classmates.com. She holds this account, and has held it for a few years, because she heads up reunion activities for her old high school. This is a paid account, not a freebie. Classmates.com just redesigned their site, and along with that redesign, alm

Re: [CGUYS] The Cloud

2009-02-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
>One can certainly quibble about "the cloud", but distributed computing, >where you don't have to know where the computing is taking place, and it >could take place anywhere in the world (or Solar System), is a very old >concept. It has been around since the advent of the internet. The one signifi

Re: [CGUYS] The Cloud

2009-02-02 Thread Ellen Rains Harris
Yeah, I remember when "thin clients" were only "dumb terminals." A long time ago. - Original Message - From: "b_s-wilk" The cloud is a new name for an old idea. Technology has improved enough recently to implement it. It still sucks for individual users [except, maybe, email].

Re: [CGUYS] The Cloud

2009-02-02 Thread John DeCarlo
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Tony B wrote: > Implementation of cloud computing hasn't really been > possible until recent broadband penetration. But you insist on talking > about 'many years' as if you've been avoiding a cloud by choice all > this time. > One can certainly quibble about "the

Re: [CGUYS] The Cloud

2009-02-02 Thread b_s-wilk
I think you're still misunderstanding the concept. Or purposely trying to obfuscate. Implementation of cloud computing hasn't really been possible until recent broadband penetration. But you insist on talking about 'many years' as if you've been avoiding a cloud by choice all this time. FWIW, my

Re: [CGUYS] The Cloud

2009-02-01 Thread Tony B
I think you're still misunderstanding the concept. Or purposely trying to obfuscate. Implementation of cloud computing hasn't really been possible until recent broadband penetration. But you insist on talking about 'many years' as if you've been avoiding a cloud by choice all this time. FWIW, my w

Re: [CGUYS] The Cloud

2009-01-31 Thread b_s-wilk
But I think you're wrong about classic IMAP. Those emails are in YOUR account at your host, but "the cloud" is bigger than that. When we store files on a host, we accept the responsibility of backing up those files ourselves. Cloud Computing is not a new concept, but it's a new paradigm that will

[CGUYS] The Cloud

2009-01-31 Thread Tony B
I don't recall saying AJAX was an email protocol; I'll leave my quote in so you can read it again. But I think you're wrong about classic IMAP. Those emails are in YOUR account at your host, but "the cloud" is bigger than that. When we store files on a host, we accept the responsibility of backing