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s. They may indeed get far without writing,
depending on how good their memories are (one could argue that
a very long-lived being would eventually "run out of storage"
and face the decision between forgetting and going mad).
My Elves, however, aren't immortal; they have normal human
lifespa
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ph shapes worked out yet, but I should be
able to get something rough & ready for at least temporary use fairly
soon.
Thanks,
--
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t's kind of like science; I consider it one of the few
remaining branches of natural philosophy.)
> Anyway, here's some interesting usage I heard a friend say to another
> friend yesterday: 'did you make any friends at law school and they
> not get in?'. This is
by: "R A Brown" r...@carolandray.plus.com
Date: Fri Oct 4, 2013 1:05 pm ((PDT))
On 04/10/2013 13:04, Leonardo Castro wrote:
> 2013/10/3 BPJ:
>> 2013-10-03 17:05, Leonardo Castro skrev:
>>
>>> Unless you want something completely phonemic (and
>>> then it&#
e, because what
>> was once a preterite is now functioning in a new way. But with the examples
>> given, there
>> has been no change in function and no real change in anything else about
>> them. Just my
>> penny-hapenny, and I do remain open to convincement.
>>
ng reforms.
But you cannot _re_form somemething which has not been formed yet.
If there is a spoken language or dialect without a written form
and somebody will create some written form,
it will be a-posteriory conlang.
> It may be an entertaining game to design a phonemic or a
phonetic spe
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Posted by: "A. da Mek" a.da_m...@ufoni.cz
Date: Thu Oct 3, 2013 1:38 am ((PDT))
> Personally, I think any attempt on the conlang list to come up with an
> orthography for spok
single grammar.
In other words, is it necessary that the polypersonal approach go*
outside the Linguists' circle.
Até mais!
Leonardo
*: this reminds me the issue of personal infinitives.
2013/10/1 Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets :
> On 1 October 2013 21:53, BPJ wrote:
>
>> Now th
rt of the unique history
of Guarani among all native languages of the Americas? (Isn't really
there a gentilic for "the Americas" in English? Can I use "American"?)
BTW, I remember having heard an explanation for the difference in the
fates of American and African languages: the Americas were "new
Europes" while Afr
quot;customary redundancy" IMO does not and is
> at best merely a cop-out.
>
As I wrote above :).
>
> but as for your Span. ex., I've always been told that
>> the "a mi" is for emphasis, "_I_ would like to..."
>>
>
> Which, if correct (a
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From: Padr
t Old Albic alphabet is featural, and I indeed worried
how realistic that is. But according to Old Albic legend, the
script *was* a conscript - it is ascribed to a cultural heroine.
The letters _p_, _t_, _c_ and _s_ are quite similar to their
Phoenician counterparts, so an influence from there is
of the added letters are. And less
false information: in the animations the temporal order of additions and
deletions appears to be fake (it's just the alphabetical sequence order).
Alex
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d
have crammed any more in to a mere five minutes. If I had a quibble there,
twould
be the brevity of the presentation! :) This could easily be expanded into a
longer
presentation or even full lecture.
>With more examples you'd quickly end up running from one language to another
>h
uite good. Linguistics has come a long way vis-à-vis conlanging
> in the past decade! Check it out:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5mZ0R3h8m0
>
> David Peterson
> LCS President
> presid...@conlang.org
> www.conlang.org
>
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advertise one's conlang:
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t;> languages and wondered how on earth the speakers would be able to make
>>>> any sense of each other, since there is no way to tell who did something
>>>> to whom.
>>> MRL?
>>>
>>> All I kind find is "morphology-rich languages"; but that
stopherson wrote:
>> On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:05 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking of animacy... I remember the first time I read about MRL
>>> languages and wondered how on earth the speakers would be
you make an effort to include onomatopoeia in your conlangs? If it's a
language for an alien species with different perceptions, do you try to
create accordingly?
Matt G.
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en to predominantly be inanimate ones.
Yes. The nominative and accusative case are *always* the same
in neuter nouns, not just "more often than not".
AFMCL, Old Albic is similar. Animate nouns have an agentive case
marked zero and an objective case marked -m. (The reason for
these id
which reversed the implied directionality
of the verb.
So "ar-sarhala" would mean "to be illuminated" (the inward movement of light
towards the object)
Assuming we have a VSO word order:
Sarhala at. "It glows"
but
Ar-sarhala at. "It is illumina
Lexember you mention?
>
>
Read this:
http://christophoronomicon.blogspot.nl/2013/01/lexember-month-of-moten-words.htmland
this:
http://fantasticaldevices.blogspot.nl/2012/11/lexember.html for more
information. Basically it was an idea of Mia Soderquist and Pete Bleackley:
for a month, create one word per day for
1c. Re: Time for Another Party! Oskana|not Tedve|l Dabolnea!
Posted by: "Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets" tsela...@gmail.com
Date: Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:35 am ((PDT))
On 17 September 2013 18:07, Padraic Brown wrote:
> Chapeau! Congratulations on reaching
ow it can
> be
> >> done?
> >>
> >> Thanks all, Happy Saturday/Monday
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >
> >
>
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better to have each entry it's own post?
>>
>> Or maybe each letter it's own page?
>>
>> Anyone have experience with this and know the pros n cons of how it can be
>> done?
>>
>> Thanks all, Happy Saturday/Monday
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>
>
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't change the argument), while it is pretty certain that
human beings have been using full-fledged languages (and not
"protolanguages" in the Bickertonian sense) for about 20 times
as long if not longer.
> > If the original immigrants were small in number, but
> > derived
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e whose name translated literally means: "the Language of the Sky
People"! Check this post on the Conlang list (from the 23rd of November
1998!):
http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9811D&L=CONLANG&P=R3564&I=-3&d=No+Match%3BMatch%3BMatches,
where I explain wh
native speaker of English, and used to pronounce it
as [aŋ'gosei].
> I recall many years ago I used to refer to my unnamed
> briefscript simply as 'briefscript' in quotes. Some one
> coined the abbreviation BrSc and that stuck around for quite
> a while. I alway
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On 09/09/2013 03:56, Padraic Brown wrote:
>> (if this has been discussed elsewhere, please link me.
>> I haven't seen it.)
>
>>
>> I haven't ever had an anglicized autoglottonym for my
>> conlang, ł
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. Ṫirdonic, my first serious conlang
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mblr
> stereotypes: "I
> > > can't even." / "I've got so many feels." etc.) When speaking in that
> way,
> > > I've noticed my friends flout grammaticality a little bit, but the
> > > discourse's participants need to be r
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___
2a. Re: To diss
Posted by: "Roger Mills" romi...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Sep 5, 2013 9:26 am ((PDT))
From: Scott Villanueva-Hlad
I always hear "disrespect" used
(completive subclauses, morphologically identical to
relative subclauses, including both indirect speech and "I know that..."
territory);
- as adverbial adjuncts (a different construction, yet related to how one
forms adverbial noun phrases).
There's also the "I don't kn
ing from
the same IE root (*teuto-) as *þeudiskaz, does not show any
traces of Grimm's and Verner's Law, leading to some scholars
doubting that the Teutones who caused so much trouble to the
Romans together with the Cimbri were a Germanic people at all.
At any rate, _Teutones_ is not a G
ot that you've ever had anything worthy to say on that subject.
--
Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets.
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http://www.christophoronomicon.nl/
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ll-known health and longevity associations with
> being left-handed are best explained by problems with physiology rather
> than as the consequences of unapt design and social stigma. Therefore, it
> is entirely likely that overall left-handers can be expected to perform
> less
because of JRRT and
because there were (presumably still are) quite a few
Catholics among those who actively post to the list. Also
IIRC Fr Schleyer, the inventor of Volapük had something to
do with it. Coincidentally the inventor of the earliest
mixed-type conlang was that of the French Jesuit
pr
ts nasals and its
>>>>> uvular/guttural R, and I'm still playing with the idea of tones,
>>> but
>>>> not
>>>>> sure it's going to happen just yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> To that end - are there any good resources
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;> not bad, but has a big hole in lacking a description of Spoken
> French's
> > >> polypersonal verbs. Could be because it's from 2000. The polypersonal
> > >> nature of Spoken French's verbs has been unrecognised for a long time,
> > >> ma
n French are quite different from literary
>> French), but I guess you'd rather have something you can read at your
>> leisure, rather than someone who may not always be available to answer your
>> questions :) .
>>
>> Unfortunately resources on Spoken Fre
H. S. Teoh :
> ObConlang: do your conlang(s) have court-dictated (i.e., rigid) euphony
> rules, or do they have more mellifluous euphony rules? (Or do they have
> no euphony rules? Or no euphony whatsoever? :-P)
I don't have a conlang with euphony rules, but once I outlined some
phonotactic ru
edition
Posted by: "George Corley" gacor...@gmail.com
Date: Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:33 am ((PDT))
I noticed that the word for conlang breaks down as "art language". Good to
see people avoid relexing even in specialized conlanging jargon, even
creating a false friend in the pr
donia.
>
> Which leads me to the reflection that melifluousness and beauty
> not necessarily are synonymous -- at least not in both directions!
> As everyone probably knows I get thrills from Icelandic which
> I don't get from other languages; it's quite beatiful to me
&
nd is verbal mail.
> Charlie
>
> - Original Message -
> I think what Nicole means to ask is whether the conspeakers of your
conlang
> in your conworld use verbal mail.
>
> I don't really have any properly formed concultures, but if I get round to
> it they will all be
which natlangs allow one
> to easily compose phonetically beautiful sentences as well (Italian and
> Carioca Portuguese spring most readily to mind, although I�m sure Polynesian
> languages would be in the running as well).
>
> So, I decided to try to compose �the world�s
or modern) Greek more mellifluous than Classical
> Latin. But if time-travel enabled me to go back and
> actually listen I might well be surprised.
Perhaps.
> [snip]
>
> > Anyway, you didn't specify 21st century natlangs!
>
> No, but unless we actually know what the lang
paston por sharkoj.
>> "This is the opposite of toothpaste for sharks."
>>
>
> What's the _estas_ doing there? It seems redundant on your
> scheme! BTW your scheme isn't that far fetched since it seems to
> me that any root can be used as any open word cla
27;t
too odd at all (see English "is coming" for come+PROG) and especially if
the language is prone to serialising verbs this sounds like the most
natural way to do it. So let's say that our language constructs
progressives by serialising the content verb with the light verb "do".
Let's also mark both the subject and obje
ple is how you can actually insert all sorts of
> stuff between the first conjunct and the and-verb, like relative
> clauses, adverbs, negators, etc., that normally can only be inserted
> between the subject NP as a whole and the main verb.
>
>
> > - Not related to the "and&
nk Gothic /b/ and /g/ behave similarly. this is probably the natlang
> whence my subconscious got this idea to begin with.
>
> thanks!
> matt
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:58 PM, BPJ wrote:
>
>> 2013-08-20 02:17, Matthew Boutilier skrev:
>>
>>> is
gt; On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:47 AM, Jasyn Jones wrote:
>
> > Unique Edeinos Sounds
>
> [...]
>
> > Other unique sounds are used in their verbal communications. These
> > include:
> >
> > Clack: An edeinos can snap its teeth together, creating a sharp
>
ans who currently
> do or wish
>>>> to engage in global affairs, whether that's call center
> staffing, international
>>>> business or etc). Internally, I think Hindi serves the purpose of
> a national
>>>> language as much as English does
at seems the most likely thing.
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irect", IIRC. I think Romanian has something like that, so it is
> ANADEW.
In Romanian, it is usually called "direct". The other case is
the "oblique".
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e finally graduates from his
play-pen orthography, he will find himself literally back at square one, having
to
both unlearn everything he's just been taught as well as learn everything anew.
I don't think I need to stress that I am anti spelling "reform" in just about
ev
rks behind every corner? Love me, love my dog? Be careful what you wish
> for?
> Pay Caesar what is due Caesar?
>
> I feel like I should be nodding very knowingly in assent to an eternal truth,
> but which truth is it?
>
> Kou
>
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at I hae'd a plum pit in my
> mouth when I read that? Ye near killed me laddie!
Ha! Ei wewôte mun man dydet his selfe gobbe fyllen suuo êhhuuernes gobbe under
his ekrenam!
Padraic
> Adam
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me,
> these are simply negating whatever the adjective or verb is suggesting. "I do
> not agree" = "I disagree"; "I do not disagree" =
> "I agree". Depending on intonation, the whole phrase can be suggestive of
> some hidden reservation or ulterior
;.
ntɛvɔ́ve (adv.) 'in vain; (in negated clauses) not at all'. This word is
the gerund of bɔve 'fail', itself borrowed from Delta Naidda båve. The
Ndak Ta etymon bambi survives natively in Buruya Nzaysa only in the verb
əbabe 'be lucky', derived from a futilitive mood form erbambi
'accidentally succeed' (lit. 'fail to fail').
Part Three coming up soon...
Jan
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I translated a fairly long text into Buruya Nzaysa recently. Originally,
I had envisio
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franca".
Place names are often descriptive: Uostia is indeed a port city, the Spike is
indeed
a spiky bit of geography attached to a larger range of hills, the old city of
Hoopelle
was originally called Hou an Polun, the place of springs, and indeed buried way
deep
under the ruins of th
f a place, then change the spelling by using the next letter or
second letter, etc., consonant for consonant and vowel for vowel. You can use
whichever alphabet you want. If your fictional place reminds you of a real
place use that name. I use for /ʧ, tS/. You can also insert , ,
, etc., i
r me--I never go much
beyond naming languages, but the act of naming things always seems so
*forced* to me. I end up gravitating toward names like the examples I gave
above, but I can never get over the feeling that this is NOT how things are
named.
Patrick
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he the bar who"
> "The man who went to the bar"
>
> Now my question is: Do you know of any natlang that does this? I'd be
> very interested to know.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> -M
>
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and "night" are also not yet
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Wired wrote a piece on it, and apparently the Beanish language is
actually a real conlang, intended to be indecipherable for greater
verisimilitude:
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/08/xkcd-time-comic/
There's also an XKCD blog post about it, but strangely that actually
has less detail: h
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r rendering beautiful interlinears!
>
>
>
Have you looked at the gb4e package? http://www.ctan.org/pkg/gb4e
It does everything expex does, but with LaTeX environments rather than TeX
macros (which I find looks cleaner, and is handled much more gracefully by
LaTeX-aware text editors) and with more semantic mark-up. The package
automatically aligns the glosses as does
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or are degrees of volume or similar
> features permitted to vary by singers to distinguish between phonemes?
>
> Matt G.
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> > you use? Why?
> >
> One of the services of the Language Creation Society is to provide its
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Just on the off chance Leonardo was talking ab
e … began with half-musical unanalysed expressions
for individual beings and events."
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7;s hard to keep up without a Russian-speaking
> > > environment to be immersed in.
> > >
> >
> > Tell me about it... And it's even worse with conlangs because there
> > are so much fewer potential speakers! I'll have to converse with my
> > f
wisters?
>
> Only if things like "kiei kiese-kei kuasu" are considered
> tongue-twisters...
>
> >
> > I just discovered one in my alien conlang. It's a *literal*
> > tongue-twister:
> >
> > er ehrlu.
> > [,Er'ExR\_0lU]
table limits...
Now, that's positive thinking! Only be careful lest the language head towards
a run-away chain shift!
> :-P
>
>
>> > My conlangs tend to explode boxes every now and then. They just
>> > refuse to be boxed in by well-known, nicely-behaved li
", do you use "me" or
>>> "I" in your conlangs? (If it distinguish them.)
>>>
>>>
>> Actually, there is no reason for a conlang to even have
>> the "for me to do" in the first place. After all, not
>> all natlangs do!
ake place so that the agent is supposed to regret his actions (expected
result) - the agent doesn't regret his actions and may even interpret them
as brave (action 2).
These two interpretations basically describe the same scenario but choose
different starting points: the first one starts
atloo bill for goo scrapage and shrapnel removal.
Or when the Society magistrates come around with their little yellow notice
saying that this region is simply not zoned for highly explosive languages! :P
> My conlangs tend to explode boxes every
> now and then. They just refuse to be box
ot it though, you never forget :) .
>
> [...]
> > Palatalised trills are easy enough. My own problem is being unable to
> > distinguish alveolo-palatal fricatives from postalveolar ones!
> [...]
>
> What, there's a difference?!
>
>
I mean [ɕ] vs. [ʃ]. I underst
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