Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
hehe, this thread started to get amusing now:) anyways, no offence whatsover and thanks for a insightful discussion ahh, one more hour of sleep then I'm off to work *sigh*

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Igor Izyumin
On Wednesday 21 August 2002 09:20 pm, Richard G. Houser wrote: > Anyone else think it might be beneficial to either include the words > "wrapper" or "compatibility layer" in this description? These two come > to my mind immediately whenever I think of WINE. As an added bonus for > the "wrapper"

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Richard G. Houser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: | Mandrake is not _ONLY_ targeted at "newbies", and describing wine as | an emulator when it's not (WINE still stands for Wine Is Not an | Emulator;) will make "hackers" think of us as stupid;) | anyways, it's not harder tha

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Ben Reser
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 02:06:10AM +0200, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > Mandrake is not _ONLY_ targeted at "newbies", and describing wine as an > emulator when it's not (WINE still stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator;) > will make "hackers" think of us as stupid;) > anyways, it's not harder than ju

Re: ;) Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Ben Reser
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 02:34:51AM +0200, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > Let's try to rephrase this; > My point is that you don't call wine for an emulator just to make people > understand what it's purpose is, when it's not an emulator. > Especially not when it's not hard to desribe it correctly an

Re: ;) Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
heh, not really, I'm not so great at writing english as I once was:o) Let's try to rephrase this; My point is that you don't call wine for an emulator just to make people understand what it's purpose is, when it's not an emulator. Especially not when it's not hard to desribe it correctly and at

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Ben Reser
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 01:10:10AM +0200, Philippe Coulonges wrote: > Wine Is Not An Emulator. > > As such, it can only work on an Intel platform, executing native Windows > binaries. > Opposite to Windows, Linux works on many hardware platforms, but Wine can't, > because it is not an emulator.

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
aye, agree anyways, my point is that describing something wrong is not a good idea even if it would make people easily understand what it's for, especially not when you can explain someting right and still make people as easily understand it's purpose:) Adam Williamson wrote: >On Thu, 2002-0

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2002-08-22 at 00:49, Ben Reser wrote: > I most certianly *DO* understand the difference. But you're applying > the term emulator to only processor emulation which is certainly a fine > distinction that maybe hackers make, but the dictionary and common users > do not make! And considerin

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
ah, I actually got to the point afterwards:) anyways, if something's wrong, it should be corrected, even if it's just a %description The maintaner could just explain shortly that wine is a windows implementation, and that people may think of it as windows for linux, or something similar, whatev

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Mandrake is not _ONLY_ targeted at "newbies", and describing wine as an emulator when it's not (WINE still stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator;) will make "hackers" think of us as stupid;) anyways, it's not harder than just grab the description from winehq.com/about From winehq.com/about: "Wi

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Ben Reser
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 01:42:57AM +0200, Philippe Coulonges wrote: > In my response, I mistaken your message and the one from Ben Reser. > Rereading it, it may look like you're the one that don't understand the > difference, but he is. I most certianly *DO* understand the difference. But you'r

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Philippe Coulonges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le Jeudi 22 Août 2002 01:00, Per Øyvind Karlsen a goretquoté : > ? Sorry. In my response, I mistaken your message and the one from Ben Reser. Rereading it, it may look like you're the one that don't understand the difference, but he is. For Linux

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Philippe Coulonges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le Jeudi 22 Août 2002 01:00, Per Øyvind Karlsen a goretquoté : > ? Wine Is Not An Emulator. As such, it can only work on an Intel platform, executing native Windows binaries. Opposite to Windows, Linux works on many hardware platforms, but Wine ca

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
? Philippe Coulonges wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >Le Mercredi 21 Août 2002 23:18, Ben Reser a écrit : > > >>On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 10:03:18AM +0200, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: >> >> > > > >>>wine's %description are incorrect, wine is NOT an emulator;) >>>Time

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Philippe Coulonges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le Mercredi 21 Août 2002 23:18, Ben Reser a écrit : > On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 10:03:18AM +0200, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > > wine's %description are incorrect, wine is NOT an emulator;) > > Time to finally correct this? > > Blah who cares... It's an

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Hey, it's kinda silly to call wine an emulator when WINE stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator... anyways, we want perfection!;) Ben Reser wrote: >On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 10:03:18AM +0200, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > > >>wine's %description are incorrect, wine is NOT an emulator;) >>Time to final

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Ben Reser
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 10:03:18AM +0200, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > wine's %description are incorrect, wine is NOT an emulator;) > Time to finally correct this? Blah who cares... It's an emulator of the interface. Unless you're using the actual windows binaries it's emulation. Try looking up

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
hehe, yeah, after we poked the bot with a stick earlier today;) -Dvalin Randy wrote: > Even our friendly #mandrake bot knows it's an interface layer: > > Wine: An interface between windows applications and the > linux operating system. It does not emulate windows, but translates > windows cal

Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Randy
Even our friendly #mandrake bot knows it's an interface layer: Wine: An interface between windows applications and the linux operating system. It does not emulate windows, but translates windows calls into the closest linux functional equivalent. URL: http://www.winehq.com/ -Rand E "But wh