Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-23 Thread Serge Lussier
Geoffrey Lee wrote: netscape only comes in binary, you see. I give up Hahaha! no,no,no I just wanted to suggest to give the choice of an alternative installer/uninstaller for non existant RPM-built sources, or if I prefer not to go RPM way for that specific software ... the

Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-23 Thread Stuart Krivis
On Mon, 22 May 2000, Alex Hayes wrote: AppDrake or InstallDrake utility would take a .tar, .tar.gz, etc. uncompress it into a temp directory, run through the ./configure, make and make install, or alternatively running an install.sh or other script. even for those of us who have no

Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-23 Thread damien
what do you thing of this? It's a 5 minutes-made glade screenshot. The tree and the list are unfilled, so there are hidden, but should be there. The idea is to try to autodetect src, makefile, configure and other stuff location, and try to parse Makefile to find out what the install process is.

Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-23 Thread Stuart Krivis
On Mon, 22 May 2000, Alex Hayes wrote: mostly due to my experience over at linuxnewbie.org, where many questions are "i've downloaded __.tar.gz, now what do i do to install?" It's almost impossible to write a generic front end for this. How would you handle dependencies? Conflicts

RE: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-23 Thread Stuart Krivis
On Tue, 23 May 2000, Geoffrey Lee wrote: - Yes, but imagine a huge package ( let say netscape ) which has so much files, scripts. etc ... it could be impossible to parse the configs setup! netscape only comes in binary, you see. So? :-) Here is an example Makefile for

Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-23 Thread Eugenio Diaz
--- Linux Frog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2000, you wrote: AppDrake or InstallDrake utility would take a .tar, .tar.gz, etc. uncompress it into a temp directory, run through the ./configure, make and make install, or alternatively running an install.sh or other

RE: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-23 Thread Don Head
Not to restart this whole thing again, but has anyone noticed the yasop project? Noticed it on freshmeat a moment ago. yasop (Yet Another SOftware Packager) is a script to convert tarballs into (binary) rpms. Reading everyone's responses on this subject, I think many were in agreement that

RE: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-22 Thread Geoffrey Lee
-Original Message- From: Alex Hayes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 2:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] Idea for new utility AppDrake or InstallDrake utility would take a .tar, .tar.gz, etc. uncompress it into a temp directory, run through

Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-22 Thread Serge Lussier
Alex Hayes wrote: AppDrake or InstallDrake utility would take a .tar, .tar.gz, etc. uncompress it into a temp directory, run through the ./configure, make and make install, or alternatively running an install.sh or other script. even for those of us who have no problem installing

RE: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-22 Thread Geoffrey Lee
- My opinion - Its a very good idea! There is a point: Not all source package tarballs have this sequences of building: ./configure; make; make install and most of the time we need to be root for the install step. you do NOT need to be root to build RPMs, it is a _very_ bad idea,

Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-22 Thread Serge Lussier
- Original Message - From: Geoffrey Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 8:47 PM Subject: RE: [Cooker] Idea for new utility - My opinion - Its a very good idea! There is a point: Not all source package tarballs have this sequences of building

RE: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-22 Thread Geoffrey Lee
e.g. mknod Strange ... You are talking about RPMs, I was talking about tgz source tarballs ... uh? wtf is that ? I think you don't really understand what Alex was talking about or you don't care about the idea... Is your reply only to tell that it's not a good idea or what ? oh

Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-22 Thread Linux Frog
On Mon, 22 May 2000, you wrote: AppDrake or InstallDrake utility would take a .tar, .tar.gz, etc. uncompress it into a temp directory, run through the ./configure, make and make install, or alternatively running an install.sh or other script. even for those of us who have no problem

Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-22 Thread Tim Val Litwiller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 8:47 PM Subject: RE: [Cooker] Idea for new utility - My opinion - Its a very good idea! There is a point: Not all source package tarballs have this sequences of building: ./configure; make; make install and most

Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-22 Thread Con Kolivas
. Serge Lussier wrote: - Original Message - From: Geoffrey Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 8:47 PM Subject: RE: [Cooker] Idea for new utility - My opinion - Its a very good idea! There is a point: Not all source package tarballs

Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-22 Thread Civileme
Serge Lussier wrote: - Original Message - From: Geoffrey Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you don't really understand what Alex was talking about or you don't care about the idea... Is your reply only to tell that it's not a good idea or what ? Regards, Serge Lussier Well,

RE: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-22 Thread Geoffrey Lee
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility I think a utility that would ./configure , make , build rpm, install rpm, is what is needed, that way you can more easily uninstall the program and check dependencies of other programs that might need this program. i see

Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-22 Thread Alex Hayes
i've downloaded __.tar.gz, now what do i do to install?" Original Message Follows From: Linux Frog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:48:35 -0400 On Mon, 22 May 2000, y

Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-22 Thread Serge Lussier
Geoffrey Lee wrote: Subject: Re: [Cooker] Idea for new utility I think a utility that would ./configure , make , build rpm, install rpm, is what is needed, that way you can more easily uninstall the program and check dependencies of other programs that might need this program

RE: [Cooker] Idea for new utility

2000-05-22 Thread Geoffrey Lee
rpm builder has been hacked heavily ... prob need some ppl to test for me. Ok then, Let say that its a bit complicated and there is already a work making its way... However, It seems to be an interresting point :-) I am sure something could be done. yop For myself: All this