On Thu Aug 28 17:24 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 16:26, Dave Cotton wrote:
>
> > Before I "retired" to France I worked in the UK as head of R&D for the
> > market leader in specialist software used in the construction industry.
> > If I caused this much havoc to our custom
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 05:33, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Customers have a right to expect a certain level of service, because
> they're PAYING for a certain level of service. We are not paying to
> use Cooker; therefore we have no right to expect or demand any level
> of service.
True, but that's not t
On Thursday 28 August 2003 05:20 pm, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 23:05, w9ya wrote:
> > On Thursday 28 August 2003 04:33 pm, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 22:24, eddie wrote:
> > > > Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 16:26, Dave Cotton wr
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 23:05, w9ya wrote:
> On Thursday 28 August 2003 04:33 pm, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 22:24, eddie wrote:
> > > Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 16:26, Dave Cotton wrote:
> > > >>Before I "retired" to France I worked in the UK as head o
On Thursday 28 August 2003 04:33 pm, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 22:24, eddie wrote:
> > Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 16:26, Dave Cotton wrote:
> > >>Before I "retired" to France I worked in the UK as head of R&D for the
> > >>market leader in specialist sof
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 22:24, eddie wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 16:26, Dave Cotton wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Before I "retired" to France I worked in the UK as head of R&D for the
> >>market leader in specialist software used in the construction industry.
> >>If I caused
Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 16:26, Dave Cotton wrote:
Before I "retired" to France I worked in the UK as head of R&D for the
market leader in specialist software used in the construction industry.
If I caused this much havoc to our customers, with the financial
consequences to t
On Thursday 28 August 2003 19:24, BLINDAUER Emmanuel wrote:
> For my part, I must be in the mountain, because, since 3 ou 4 weeks,
> I don't have access to a mirror which is complete. How ca we want to
> help at cooker, if we even can get the packages ? The original
> unstable side of cooker is on
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BLINDAUER Emmanuel wrote:
> Le Jeudi 28 Août 2003 19:09, Adam Williamson a écrit :
>
>>>Question, how can we test something like urpmi using ftp before the
>>>"customers" get hold of it if the sites are not stable at any time?
>>
>>I think by the point
Le Jeudi 28 Août 2003 19:09, Adam Williamson a écrit :
> > Question, how can we test something like urpmi using ftp before the
> > "customers" get hold of it if the sites are not stable at any time?
>
> I think by the point of this comment you're making a mountain out of a
> molehill. I haven't bee
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 17:48, Dave Cotton wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 18:24, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > Cooker has nothing at all to do with "customers". Cooker is for
> > volunteer beta testers. That's what we are.
>
> And volunteers who are trying to ensure that the final paying
> _customer
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 18:24, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Cooker has nothing at all to do with "customers". Cooker is for
> volunteer beta testers. That's what we are.
And volunteers who are trying to ensure that the final paying
_customers_ who buy boxed sets get a good well tested product, and keep
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 16:26, Dave Cotton wrote:
> Before I "retired" to France I worked in the UK as head of R&D for the
> market leader in specialist software used in the construction industry.
> If I caused this much havoc to our customers, with the financial
> consequences to them, I would have
Elsewhere someone suggested that the master mirror should be updated
only once or twice a day, this could well stop some of this madness.
For quite a while I lost Evolution and so used Kmail to pull my mail,
leaving the mails on my server, when I got Evolution working again I had
650 mails, this m
> > The plea is always please test, give us the means to test and we
> > will.
>
> Well, i think that people forget that mandrake employees are working.
> They do not break mirrors for pleasure, and they are fully aware of the
> problem.
>
> Do you really think they try to slow down the test ? to
Adam Williamson wrote:
I see about five people posting to the list moaning about the mirrors,
so I don't post to the list moaning about the mirrors. Why would I?
I think the point is that what you *don't* see is a single post saying
"this is what's going on, and this is when we think it will be
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 08:32, Dave Cotton wrote:
> Frequently when it all blows up in their faces after release we get the "well
> nobody told me so I assumed it was all right" type of posting. How many
> people are actually trying to test on as near to production as possible
> machines, I doubt
Le Mercredi 27 Août 2003 16:21, Buchan Milne a écrit :
> Frank Griffin wrote:
> > ftp.uninett.no is currently "stuck". It got a slew of new packages
> > overnight (GMT -0500), but is not getting updated at all now, and
> > approximately 150-200MB of new packages are missing (a guess based on
> >
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Frank Griffin wrote:
> ftp.uninett.no is currently "stuck". It got a slew of new packages
> overnight (GMT -0500), but is not getting updated at all now, and
> approximately 150-200MB of new packages are missing (a guess based on
> the current size o
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 10:01, Michael Scherer wrote:
> Well, i think that people forget that mandrake employees are working.
> They do not break mirrors for pleasure, and they are fully aware of the
> problem.
>
> Do you really think they try to slow down the test ? to annoy their
> testers ?
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 09:32, Dave Cotton wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 August 2003 22:48, Paul Dorman wrote:
> > but I'm peeved
>
> You are not alone.
>
> > This happens too often (like, every day). Can the maintainers
> > **pah-lease** sort out the mirror situation.
>
> That gets my vote.
>
> I hav
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 22:48, Paul Dorman wrote:
> but I'm peeved
You are not alone.
> This happens too often (like, every day). Can the maintainers
> **pah-lease** sort out the mirror situation.
That gets my vote.
I have posted on this list and 1 or 2 others have. Perhaps everyone in contro
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