Re: [Cooker] REALLY need a nongui MandrakeUpdate

2001-01-22 Thread Charles Nepote
Pixel wrote: "Russell \"Elik\" Rademacher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with this. That is what is mainly lacking. It would be nice if there is the apt-get tool version for RPM to use for the servers. i don't think a thing such as apt-get is needed for security updates. For

RE: [Cooker] REALLY need a nongui MandrakeUpdate

2001-01-21 Thread Russell \Elik\ Rademacher
I agree with this. That is what is mainly lacking. It would be nice if there is the apt-get tool version for RPM to use for the servers. MandrakeUpdate is nice, but we really need the console based version, instead of the GUI, with list of file watcher so that it knows where to update

Re: [Cooker] REALLY need a nongui MandrakeUpdate

2001-01-21 Thread Pixel
"Russell \"Elik\" Rademacher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with this. That is what is mainly lacking. It would be nice if there is the apt-get tool version for RPM to use for the servers. i don't think a thing such as apt-get is needed for security updates. For upgrading to

Re: [Cooker] REALLY need a nongui MandrakeUpdate

2001-01-21 Thread David Relson
At 06:07 AM 1/21/01, Pixel wrote: "Brian J. Murrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is one place where Mandrake is REALLY suffering at trying to gain acceptability into the enterprise. A non-gui update tool. Right MandrakeUpdate is a 99% gui tool. The effective stuff is so simple that i

Re: [Cooker] REALLY need a nongui MandrakeUpdate

2001-01-21 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 12:07:15PM +0100, Pixel wrote: "Brian J. Murrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MandrakeUpdate is a 99% gui tool. And if you maintain that attitude you will lose. Continue that attitude and you will not make it into the enterprise market where you NEED to be if you are

Re: [Cooker] REALLY need a nongui MandrakeUpdate

2001-01-21 Thread David Relson
At 12:59 PM 1/21/01, Brian J. Murrell wrote: Just mirror the Mandrake/updates/7.2 (or whatever the version you're using) directory and rpm -Fvh * in cron and that's it! Omigawd! You are kidding right? How many packages are in Mandrake 7.2? My "secure" box has only 106 packages -- with

Re: [Cooker] REALLY need a nongui MandrakeUpdate

2001-01-21 Thread David Relson
Hi Brian, Wow! Only 106 packages. Yup. And like I said, that was with really no effort (in paring down) which means it is likely too much. My development machine has over 500 packages and, no, I don't know what they all are. So I am 20% of what you have installed, so likely 20% of all

Re: [Cooker] REALLY need a nongui MandrakeUpdate

2001-01-21 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 03:11:26PM -0500, David Relson wrote: Hi Brian, Hi David, My firewall machine has 211 packages, which includes perl, python, gcc, apache, etc, etc. Yikes! gcc and perl on a firewall? Undoubtedly both machines could be trimmed down ... Undoubtedly. :-) Given

Re: [Cooker] REALLY need a nongui MandrakeUpdate

2001-01-21 Thread David Relson
At 04:40 PM 1/21/01, you wrote: My firewall machine has 211 packages, which includes perl, python, gcc, apache, etc, etc. Yikes! gcc and perl on a firewall? Useful for building a new kernel and serving active web-page content and other excuses :-) Undoubtedly both machines could be

Re: [Cooker] REALLY need a nongui MandrakeUpdate

2001-01-20 Thread Tim McKenzie
There are huge security reasons to load all of the shit that is needed for MandrakeUpdate too. I don't want X-windows and perl on my secrurity gateways. Way too many holes and tools for the Wiley Cracker thanks. How about a non-perl (and non-python for that matter -- be better than RH)

Re: [Cooker] REALLY need a nongui MandrakeUpdate

2001-01-20 Thread Prana
That's a good idea. I think I can create the software for Mandrake update tool, similar to apt-get, written in C++ (not C - I'm tired!). What I can make is a simple console tool to get a file list from a file, eg: /etc/mandrakeupdate.mirror and then fetch the list starting from the beginning of