>On 08/15/2014 06:18 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>> On 15.08.14 17:18, sergio wrote:
>>> Hello all courier users!
>>> I've successfully installed Courier 0.66.1 on Ubuntu 12.04. All is
>>> working perfectly, but when I add free certificate from Star
urieresmtpd: STARTTLS failed: couriertls: connect:
>error:1408A0C1:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:no shared cipher
what are the TLS options from courier esmtpd and esmtps-ssl files?
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y, postfix,
proftpd and apache (and hopefully many other servers supporting SSL) support
key, certificate and optionally even intermediate authority's certificate(s)
in the same file.
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>some searchable repository is.
Moving e-mails to compressed mbox-style folders and giving users possibility
to read it is a good idea. Unfortunately courier does only support
maildirs...
OTOH, it should be their problem to keep their mailbox clean...
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hat, the email flow stopped.
modified the address? How?
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Windows 2
've had issues where it would be nite to know more about server
the mail was sent to, e.g. IP address and maybe even encryption...
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y indication that the connection was encrypted.
and was it encrypted? You must allow the MTA as SMTP client to use TLS on
outgoing connections.
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(mail from:) address, which is usually changed
by mailing lists. It is not designed and should not be used on From:
address, and whoever does not change it or expands SPF on From: address,
breaks "it".
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another simple way without external
>filter software?
use rcptfilter in users' home directory. See
http://www.courier-mta.org/localmailfilter.html
Note that at that time you only know the connecting IP and sender, nothing
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XMAGICTRASH mean?
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WinError #98652: Operation completed successfully
private key with no luck, still getting this error. Why
>everything was OK with older courier versions(0.71 and older) I'm using
>this key for 3 or more years without problems.
What do you have couriertls linked with - openssl or gnutls?
What did you have before?
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/courier-users/
>Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
this links there too...
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re not created.
try avoiding soft links.
>User john has mails stored in /home/john/mail/Maildir which is a softlink:
> /home/john/mail/Maildir -> /mnt/pmail/home/john/Maildir
>
>/mnt/pmail is also an NFS mount.
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On 07.02.14 12:55, Bowie Bailey wrote:
>In my maillog, I see a courieresmtp entry that says "size=15094057".
>What are the units? I assume it's either bits or bytes. So is that 14M
>or 1.8M?
they are Bytes. most of applications don't care about bits.
-
do you really NOT have Drafts folder? (the list should say that)
- what do other IMAP servers tell in such case so IOS accepts it?
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nted. I know, that
>the trash folder is uncounted, but in the cases where I have this
>problem, it is empty.
Even trashed messages in other folders are not counted to the quota.
do their filenames contain T character?
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esmtproute for given server set.
check your esmtproutes file..
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There's a long-sta
mporary errors, which cause deferrals, not
failures.
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Emacs is a complicated operating syst
;Obviously the server successfully delivers messages over and over for that
>domain to that server.
It's really hard for us to find out what error may REMOTE server see.
you should ask its administrator, what's happening.
>Any ideas what could be causing this? Is there any way more deb
calhost on 1025. But this server is also used as a backup relay
>to another mail server. So I'm allowing connections to 25 from that other
>server only.
well, in such case you can have only port 25 with RELAYCLIENT set for
local host, no need for two separate servers.
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>> >relayclient on 25 only.
>On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas
>wrote:
>> why? Normaly it should be 587 with authentication required and 25 standard
>> configuration. No relaying except localhost
gt;relayclient on 25 only.
why? Normaly it should be 587 with authentication required and 25 standard
configuration. No relaying except localhost and machines that can not do
SMTP AUTH.
>Can this be done within the smtpaccess file?
no. use esmtpd-msa configuration file.
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ternatives for mail submission, auth required etc.
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Window
moment of the day access from webmail is very slow (a new
> connection is made from squirrelmail machine to courier server machine).
what exactly is slow? Opening the imap connection?
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lost without any track of the problem.
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Despite the co
On 07.09.13 08:31, Anders wrote:
>Just a question, does locally originating smtp (mail) actually pass
>through the network before courier gets it?
I don't see why it should not..
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>>>never flew, than a step backward.
>On Tue 03/Sep/2013 17:41:41 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>> If it worked this way, We would not have MX records because the transition
>> would not happen - because of the same reason. much better would be to
>>
o handle issues of users who pay for e-mail than
anyone who gets to ISPs network via open proxy, open wi-fi or hacked
computer, wi-fi etc..
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>> On 20.08.13 19:13, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>>> BTW, 4408bis just entered Last Call. There are not many differences,
>>> but it seems to be a good occasion to review SPF implementations.
>On Wed 21/Aug/2013 11:35:17 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>> oh,
>On Wed, 2013-08-28 at 13:18 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>> >Most customers are web hosting customers. Email is provided as well,
>> >but FMP has a lot more web hosting customers that don't use email than
>> >email customers who don't use their w
such
>> >as those with field reps who do a lot of moving around, can subscribe to
>> >SMTP service from FMP's Courier server for a small additional fee which
>> >gives them a single central SMTP server and auth which they can use
>> >anywhere they go.
>
>On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas
>wrote:
>> At my former job (an ISP), I recommended users to use SMTP service from
>> they
>> e-mail providers, because
>> - if someone gets paid for mail service, they should provide SMTP too and
>>
have the mailboxes,
so we can not authenticate and verify the mail address
- the same applies about SPF and DKIM, only the mailbox provider can be
responsible for them.
other possibility was to charge people for sending mail from foreign
(allowed) lists of addresses.
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ot many differences,
>but it seems to be a good occasion to review SPF implementations.
oh, hell. again that "people have not started using SPF, let's forbid it".
same like "people don't go forward, let's go back then"
are there any other important d
headers from D* file, most
probably D1487564
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Despite the cost of living, have you noticed h
do the relaying.
I further recommend configuring port different than 25 to use for mail
submission. 587 was reserved for this use and microsoft clients were using
port 465 with implicit SSL.
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onses to the list too.
If more people see your question, they can provide you more help.
I usually refuse to answer private e-mails.
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.10: icmp_seq=0 ttl=58 time=8.458 ms
>64 bytes from 84.245.65.10: icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=8.197 ms
>^C
telnet mail.dino.sk would be better check, because of possible firewall
issues.
>So I see nothing obvious here... Any idea?
last time I've seen these messages the recipient domain was
ident lookups off. The SMTP client
MUST wait at least 300 seconds, because delays may happen because of other
reasons, while timeout for TCP connect is uaually 30 to 60 seconds. If
client drops the connection sooner, it's clearly problem of the client.
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s you can drop SMTP connections when
outgoing, which will result in immediate dropped ident connection, instead
of waiting to time out.
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On 14.05.13 21:02, Pol Hallen wrote:
>On debian I installed courier-mta (pop3 and imap).
>
>Is there a way to logging the email client used to connect to my server?
I think it logs by default, apparently to syslog. can you check for
/var/log/mail ?
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one will be able to send any mail through
>>> it without authenticating.
>On 4/2/2013 3:51 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>> just do NOT set it in esmtpd file, because you would not receive any mail
>> from outside :-)
On 02.04.13 16:07, Bowie Bailey wrote:
>That W
.
just do NOT set it in esmtpd file, because you would not receive any mail
from outside :-)
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>>> I set up one small VPS as an alternate outgoing mail server for those
>>> times when our main mailservers gets blacklisted
>On 04/02/13 02:24, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>> What do you mean by "outgoing" mail?
On 02.04.13 12:20, Mark Constable wrote:
${ETC}/courier, if you get
into problems. This means nobody has to change configuration of its client.
Note that you MUST clear your problem and mail queue before you change your
IP, otherwise you will only get your new IP banned.
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d too (its recommended usage is for temporary failures,
though)
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You have the right to rema
/courier/smtpaccess/default
> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxdeny
I recommend you using
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx allow,BLOCK="spam refused"
... btw, this is what DNS blacklist are for.
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r seen this error since. It's absolutely impossible to learn all
>these PHP script writers to obey SMTP RFCs.
That's why they should use packages that could filter out such mess.
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former standard RFC2822. so, any line crossing this
limit violates the RFC.
Which courier version do you use. IIRC, Sam did some changes to this message
to be more verbose in the past.
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On 23.02.13 00:10, Kristian Duus Østergaard wrote:
>The reason I raised it - is that it seems most distro's are moving to having
>/run or /var/run be a tmpfs filesystem.
then, a distro has to take care about /var/run subdirectories
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der for over 700 times...
If possible, look at the message at source server...
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If Barbi
How about NOADDRTRANSCRIBE?
>>
>> Try it; not sure about the name, NOADDRREWRITE sounds better.
On 17.12.12 19:40, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>I see no other reason than DKIM signatures to avoid rewriting those
>lines.
as long as I've been maintaining spam filters, I think
or a dozen or so CC'd messages (the sender would not notice)
>but it could make the difference between a few 1000 (at most) or 100,000
>(or more) messages going out per user in any 24 hour period.
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timeout.
Maybe SSMTP could do something moreto avoid timeouts, hower this is a case
where it's not courier, ssmtp or cron can make the decision which behaviour
is the correct one.
Therefore I think the request for increasing DATA timeout has its logic.
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roblem more deeply. I don't see when and how dd your
courier server receive the mail and if it really did what's described to be
the source of the problem.
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27;s his fault).
Pointing the MX to an IP address _IS_ his fault. MX points to a domain
name and IP address is _not_ a domain name. RFC 1035, section 3.3.9.
I don't see any reason why you should not contact/blame domain admin
when the MX is clearly broken
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:46 w07 courieresmtp:
id=000A0074.4FD7B63A.5F48,from=,addr=:
Connection timed out
Jun 13 08:39:46 w07 courieresmtp:
id=000A0074.4FD7B63A.5F48,from=,addr=,status:
deferred
Jun 13 08:39:46 w07 courierd:
completed,id=000A0074.00004FD7B63A.00005F48
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>Hello Matus UHLAR - fantomas,
>Am 2012-05-25 15:51:17, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
>> Do they have identic IPs too? If not, apparently IIP of
>> samba.intranet1.tamay-dogan.net is not allowed to relay.
On 25.05.12 18:00, Michelle Konzack wrote:
>[ command 'd
f
samba.intranet1.tamay-dogan.net is not allowed to relay.
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There's a long-standin
decision
>here, that's up to whoever decides what their return address is :-)
I just think that the decision should be on the admin, who should know
better, than on (ab)user.
I hope the OP won't have users sending their spam forcifully through
different IP, to get someone other b
tgoing IP address may be specified based on the
>>>IP address the sending client connected to, to relay the message. A
>>>complete description in a new section in the courier(8) man page.
>Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes:
>>so, while we can send mail with different sour
ource domains or
other reasons. So, we can't differ between different (kinds of),
customers, VIP's etc...
I find this less-than-ideal then.
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he outgoing IP address may be specified based on the
>IP address the sending client connected to, to relay the message. A
>complete description in a new section in the courier(8) man page.
shall we see it on courier's webpage?
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this means that
>any party can set their return address, and end up with a message
>that appears to have come from "their" server, leading to complaints
>that "their" server has been "hacked".
iiuc, users can do that already (set any fromaddress), an
ording to the apparent OP's reason, he apparently needs table for
mapping source domains into source IPs.
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>On Fri 13/Apr/2012 11:43:33 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>> This the courieresmtpd will only log ETRN message with source IP,
>> and implementing the functionality is up to external scripts
>> watching logs...
On 13.04.12 11:48, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>But then
Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>Well, this is misleading. I can see how someone would expect Courier
>to have ETRN implemented, if it advertises it.
proper documentation and maybe requiring --enable-etrn-logging
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continue;
+ }
if (strncmp(line, "MAIL", 4) == 0 && (p=strchr(line, ':')) != 0
&& !seenmailfrom)
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problem is in courier's configure scripts, it didn't
appear on gentoo just about a month or two ago...
as I have said I'll try to dig about it more but not now - i just have
some work mode.
If you (and hiopefully Sam) could help here a bit...
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r gentoo packages got upgraded.
I guess there's problem with build scripts, but I don't know which -
I'll dig later
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27;550 5.1.1 "User unknown"' to sender just
after rcpt to:, it could cause you troubles if you have MX backup
server running courier, with BOFHSUPPRESSBACKSCATTER set. Such mail
server would reject further messages for you, because you do not exist
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handled the same way, or will this have effect on domain aliases?
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I feel like I'm diago
Hello,
is it possible to combine the "-drop" option to couriertcpd with tarpitting?
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Hello,
is MAXHOST used for local delivery? If it is, how then?
I couldn't find the info on the web.
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a) Is there a possibility to prevent the re-writing of the MIME
>> boundaries?
>
>Yes, see http://www.tana.it/sw/zdkimfilter/#courier for a recap.
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necessary) recoding it gets broken. DKIM apparently should apply to
normalized text and should be immune against such changes.
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app from other messages, but the same sender address must be set both in
>the web-app and in the the web-app owner's email client, so I can't use that
>to discriminate.
can't you make the web-app send messages from its own IP address?
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I have tried to return "250 2.0.0 Ok" but esmtpd returned just
"200 Ok. "
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7;t IMAP_EMPTYTRASH in imapd config file what you are searching for?
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I wonder how much dee
formations to track each
e-mail this deeply.
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"Where
y what we want (although it's perfect for catching phishing
replies).
I would like to implement more complementary options to some that are
already in courier (checking for valid destination domain - only source
is checked now, checking for valid sender adresses for local domains -
only re
s accepted in order to accomodate an obscure
>>legacy pre-RFC 822 address format that, in 2012, nobody is going to
>>use anyway, so I'm dropping it.
On 18.01.12 10:31, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>I have found this addressing in RFC 5321 too (4.1.1.11):
>
>
l from
>currently selected folder also.
>2> When i create a folder in web interface it is not reflected in Outlook.
>Could be the same reason as for point 1.
>I havent implemented the IDLE functionality.
I guess you should try this first...
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>Alessandro Vesely writes:
>
>>On 17/Jan/12 00:33, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>>> On 16.01.12 19:28, Jean-Christophe Boggio wrote:
>>>>Why ? The FROM field is just informational (is it even mandatory ?)
>>
>>FWIW, according to Section 3.6 of RFC
>Le 16/01/2012 15:41, Matus UHLAR - fantomas a écrit :
>>> Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes:
>>>> I see courier accepts empty local part in mail from. Is that by a
>>>> reason?
>>
>> On 12.01.12 18:55, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>>> No particular r
>Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes:
>>I see courier accepts empty local part in mail from. Is that by a
>>reason?
>>
>>Jan 1 19:55:40 w05 courierd:
>>started,id=000E6015.4F00A8A4.2575,from=<@agh.com>,module=esmtp,host=edtmayer.sk,addrs
O
undeliverable mail withundeliverable source address
in queue...
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99 percent of lawyers give t
How does courier choose which response (from which filter) to send back
to the client?
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t; directory path and attach "Maildir" to it?
I guess that for imap, only mail= is used. I guess the home= is not
used in such case. But I advise you not to change this schema.
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database.
he apparently meant courier-imap.
>It looks like the simple answer to the original poster's question is:
>
>Sorry, Courier-IMAP can't do this. Courier-IMAP requires that messages
>are stored as files in a traditional filesystem.
in maildir+ format...
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>Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes:
>>is courier restart needed after running makehosteddomains?
...
>>checking this manually showed to me that courier rereads hosteddomains
>>automatically.
On 10.12.11 02:29, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>No, a restart is necessary for hosteddom
that courier rereads hosteddomains
automatically.
However, I've been just solving a problem where it appeared as if
courier didn't to it.
Can be there an error? Could it be in past courier versions? This is
quite old version, I'm going to update it soon, but no tie yet...
ommand rejected: need fully-qualified hostname »
>
>How do I tell Courier which FQDN to use as HELO?
man courier, read the "esmtphelo" part.
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could be much much better, since such systems can keep track of
all communication, view it, work with it...
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>> Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes:
>>>
>>> If the error was temporary, I could disable TLS negotiation for remote
>>> server and ask them to fix the problem.
>On 06/Nov/11 05:47, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>> After some soul-searching, I've changed my m
>>On 03.11.11 20:48, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>>>Well, Courier does have something similar, an optional way to force
>>>all mail to a known domain to use TLS, and use a certificate with a
>>>verified signature.
>>>
>>>But this is purely opt-in.
&g
his is purely opt-in.
That's why I'd like make it possible to opt-out. Simply: make it
temporary error when TLS fails.
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returning to an old thread... (sorry for the quoted reply w/o comments)
>Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes:
>>What error does courieresmtp generate now, when it envounters STARTTLR
>>error with SMTP server?
>>Can I turn on fallback to plaintext SMTP, when courier encounters such
On 15.08.11 15:02, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 15:02:41 -0400
>From: Sam Varshavchik
>To: courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>Subject: Re: [courier-users]
> ESMTP_USE_STARTTLS error question
>
>Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes:
>
>>What er
>Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes:
>>What error does courieresmtp generate now, when it envounters STARTTLR
>>error with SMTP server?
>>Can I turn on fallback to plaintext SMTP, when courier encounters such
>>error?
>>
>>While I would like to use TLS where possi
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