Re: Fwd: Jim Bell Trial: Fourth Day (fwd)

2001-04-10 Thread Alan Olsen
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Bill Stewart wrote: > >On the matter of Bell using Oregon DMV databases: Gordon stated that DMV > >access is not legal for non-commercial use, noting that both Oregon state > >and federal law restricted their use. > > At least for a while, the Oregon DMV sold their database

Fwd: Jim Bell Trial: Fourth Day (fwd)

2001-04-10 Thread Bill Stewart
>On the matter of Bell using Oregon DMV databases: Gordon stated that DMV >access is not legal for non-commercial use, noting that both Oregon state >and federal law restricted their use. At least for a while, the Oregon DMV sold their database on CDROMs. Then somebody upset them by putting on

genetic databases: not just for iceland anymore, good for warrants

2001-04-10 Thread Blank Frank
Some months ago someone posted about genetic databases being harvested from Iceland, and suggested other places were being surveyed too. Here's a ref for disbelievers. And an unrelated ref on *using* the *state's* DB to bust people based on that DB alone. _Science_ v 291, 16 mar 2001, p 2075:

Important notice

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Halsey
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Re: [alg] OPT: UCITA & Cypherpunks - We got a plan...

2001-04-10 Thread Paul Elliott
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Re: Tanner article (nicely formatted for you sensitive lads)

2001-04-10 Thread Eric Cordian
Norm Writes: > The Judge in the case was a Carter appointee who > came out of retirement just to hear Al’s case. > Judge > Tanner’s behavior in the trial created a court > transcript > that can only be

UPI News Article: Cato Blasts Danforth Waco Report

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=175900 -- To speak algebraically, Mr. M. is execrable, but Mr. G. is (x+1)-ecrable. Edgar Allan Poe The Armadillo G

Ohio Shooting Protest Resumes

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ap/20010410/us/shooting_protest_4.html -- To speak algebraically, Mr. M. is execrable, but Mr. G. is (x+1)-ecrable. Edgar Allan Poe

Java cryptanalysis program: the DSA flaw in OpenPGP (fwd)

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
To speak algebraically, Mr. M. is execrable, but Mr. G. is (x+1)-ecrable. Edgar Allan Poe The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate A

Slashdot | Rec.humor.funny Threatened by MasterCard

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
http://slashdot.org/articles/01/04/10/162211.shtml -- To speak algebraically, Mr. M. is execrable, but Mr. G. is (x+1)-ecrable. Edgar Allan Poe The Armadillo Gr

Discover the endless possibilities of Caribbean photography

2001-04-10 Thread Celebrations
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Tanner article (nicely formatted for you sensitive lads)

2001-04-10 Thread Norm D'Plume
The Judge in the case was a Carter appointee who came out of retirement just to hear Al’s case. Judge Tanner’s behavior in the trial created a court transcript that can only be described as Kafkaesque.

OPT: UCITA & Cypherpunks - We got a plan...

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
Well, actually it's a plan to make a plan ;) We intend the following: - Identify the several bills (UCITA, UEITA, etc.) that are currently in the Texas legislature for consideration. We believe this count is currently at five (5). - Identify pro and con sources of i

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HR.com's eBulletin for the Week of April 9, 2001

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Title: HR.com's eBulletin for the Week of April 9, 2001

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Fwd: Privacy Lecture Series: Computer Crime, Search And Seizure

2001-04-10 Thread Robert Guerra
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --- begin forwarded text PRIVACY LECTURE SERIES "COMPUTER CRIME, SEARCH AND SEIZURE" WEDNESDAY, April 11, 2001 TIME: 7:00 to 8:30 p.m. Arni Stinnissen Detective Staff Sergeant Ontario Provincial Police 140 St. G

bit disturbance

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There is something deeply disturbing here (3 hat thing) http://channel.NYTimes.com/2001/04/10/science/10MATH.html that will possibly lead to a generic solution for Feistel nets. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http

Re: Federal tracking of drivers

2001-04-10 Thread Morlock Elloi
--- Norm DePlume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > choice excerpt: Information compiled > by the Border Patrol on > PAL users is confidential, and > federal officials are > concerned about ot

Germans bring fascism back

2001-04-10 Thread Blank Frank
[Achtung: Despite the jab, I realize you can substitute "Amerikan" for "German" and "kiddie-prawn" for "nazitunz" -Ed.] Tuesday April 10 1:41 PM ET Germany Cracks Down on Internet Nazi Music Trade By Adam Tanner BERLIN (Reuters) - German police swooped

the consequences of innumeracy on IP enforcement

2001-04-10 Thread Blank Frank
TVT songs available to Web surfers for listening online. http://www.latimes.com/wires/20010410/tCB00a8779.html

Jim Bell Trial: Fourth Day (fwd)

2001-04-10 Thread auto211076
Fourth Day: Jim Bell Trial Gordon continued his testimony from the previous day. He started by reviewing the mechanism for returning the guns seized on April 1, 1997, to a person that Bell would designate. He then verified the following admitted evidence: 1. A receipt issued to Bell by Clark

Federal tracking of drivers

2001-04-10 Thread Norm DePlume
r its PAL transponder. The same frequency is being used for two different systems." http://www.latimes.com/editions/orange/20010410/t30569.html

Create 3D for over 200 million: Director 8.5 announced!

2001-04-10 Thread Macromedia
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Re: Pleading the 5th

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, David Honig wrote: > At 09:10 AM 4/7/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > > > >Napster has a problem because they're distributing work that belongs to > >somebody else. > > > > They're not distributing anything but their software, and running > an index-server. Which is in effect

Re: TannerWatch: Jack don't need no body language

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Eric Cordian wrote: > I've always regarded this as a major loophole in our "nation of laws," > namely that a judge can order you to do anything, and jail you if you > refuse. More 'British Common Law' crap. Even a judge should need probable cause and must present it to anot

Inferno: Fw: [nylug-announce] [nylug-talk] Tuesday 24 April 2001: Big Meeting on Privacy (fwd)

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:08:05 -0400 From: Any Mouse Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Club Inferno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Inferno: Fw: [nylug-announce] [nylug-talk] Tuesday 24 April 2001: Big Meeting on Privacy (fwd) - Original Message -

Re: hooks in browsers?

2001-04-10 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
On 10 Apr 2001, at 12:20, Ray Dillinger wrote: > Are there any more direct hooks into browsers? Is there any > "what URL is being displayed right now" API call for example? Just took a quick glimpse at http://developer.netscape.com/docs/manuals/communicator/DDE/a btdde.htm (beware the word-

Re: hooks in browsers?

2001-04-10 Thread Greg Broiles
At 12:20 PM 4/10/2001 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote: >It's probably do-able to write a little application that runs >on the host machine -- and when the browser loads a website, >the application consults freenet asking for commentary from >other clients about that website. > >You could do this a coup

hooks in browsers?

2001-04-10 Thread Ray Dillinger
Since Third voice was found floating belly up at the top of the fishtank the other day, I've been looking at their service. I think the idea is fundamentally good; subscribers should be able to see each other's commentary on websites. That's basic speech and reputation working on the intern

Systolix DSP

2001-04-10 Thread Gareth Jones
Dear Sir, I am writing to you either as a registered user of one of Systolix free DSP design tools (FilterExpress, FilterSim, FilterWizard), or because you have expressed an interest in our products. As part of our development activities we occasionally survey our software users for feedback on t

Re: CDR: RE: Screwing Jim Bell and Cypherpunks

2001-04-10 Thread Eric Cordian
Tim May Wrote: >> I think the Bell case indicates the need for Cypherpunks to start >> writing code again, and stop engaging in meatspace theatrics. > First, Bell's actions are not the actions of most members of this > mailing list. Frankly, this is a logical error: referring to > "Cypherpunks

The Deconstruction of James Dalton Bell

2001-04-10 Thread Eric Cordian
Ah, I see Declan has posted his impressions of Day 5 on Wired News. http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,42951,00.html > Jim Bell's Strange Day in Court > by Declan McCullagh > Bell's lawyer, Robert Leen, twice asked U.S. District Judge Jack > Tanner to halt the proceedings because his

Re: FC: More on public documents, jury lists, and baiting a judge

2001-04-10 Thread Norm D'Plume
At 08:21 AM 4/10/01 -0700, Declan McCullagh wrote: >For bookmarking purposes, I've put links to the series of articles I wrote >about Jim Bell from his raid to his trial here: >http://www.cluebot.com/search.pl?topic=ap-politics > Thanks. I've added that link and one to cryptome. The latest work

http://www.geocities.com/judgetanner/ -repaired

2001-04-10 Thread Norm D'Plume
>On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Norm D'Plume wrote: > >> http://www.geocities.com/judgetanner/ >> >> A TannerWatch Publication >> for citizen students of the legal process > >Most of the links on that page are screwed up. (File:// URLs mostly.) Fixed. Also expanded, with more biographical/career/bias note

Re: CDR: Re: Pleading the 5th

2001-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Boone
Inaccurate indeed. List owner policies have nothing to do with it. Jim's assertion, your mockery of it, and my mockery of your similar assertion back in 1997 all had to do with intellectual property rights, not list owner policies. I am looking forward to hearing you explain that the assertion

Re: CDR: RE: Screwing Jim Bell and Cypherpunks

2001-04-10 Thread Eric Cordian
DCF wrote: > Save that the Feds have no interest in proceeding against any list > posters with cash and brains (or perhaps self-control). I think the Bell case indicates the need for Cypherpunks to start writing code again, and stop engaging in meatspace theatrics. Then no one would be on trial

Re: CDR: TannerWatch: Jack don't need no body language

2001-04-10 Thread Eric Cordian
Norm Deplume wrote: > Law And Justice > by Irv Benzion ... > You are probably unaware as was I that it is illegal to criticize a > federal judge or his/her actions or to cause "disrespect" to the federal > court system. A federal judge may if in his/her opinion such an > occurrence arises, iss

RE: Seth Finkelstein, reluctant cypherpunk?

2001-04-10 Thread Matthew Gaylor
"James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There is good and evil censorware, and many in the censorware project were >more concerned with good censorware than evil. > >The censorware project was a typical pinko project, directed at private >choice, instead of state power. I don't know what yo

Slashdot | Hyperreality: The U.S-China Standoff

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
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RE: Seth Finkelstein, reluctant cypherpunk?

2001-04-10 Thread James A. Donald
-- At 01:31 PM 4/6/2001 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: > Seth [has] been a major contributor with The Censorware Project Many on the censorware project display the same attitude to civil rights as the infamous Dean Brodhead, who refused five orthodox jewish students permission to live off campus

CNN.com - Sci-Tech - Huge RSA showcase highlights managed security - April 10, 2001

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/industry/04/10/rsa.managed.security.idg/index.html?s=8 -- Adapt, Adopt, Improvise! - Anonymous Venimus, Vidimus, Delevimus - 1st Linux Motto, Anonymous Tivoli Certification Group, OSCT James Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior En

RE: Seth Finkelstein, reluctant cypherpunk?

2001-04-10 Thread James A. Donald
-- At 01:31 PM 4/6/2001 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: > Seth is a long-term contributor to the Cyberia-L list, which a > reasonable number of Cypherpunks also read or at least occasionally > post to, including Declan and JYA. He's been a major contributor > with The Censorware Project There is g

Slashdot | Microchips That Evolve

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
http://slashdot.org/articles/01/04/10/0436220.shtml -- To speak algebraically, Mr. M. is execrable, but Mr. G. is (x+1)-ecrable. Edgar Allan Poe The Armadillo G

Your ACM Web Account URL

2001-04-10 Thread account
Thank you for setting your security question. Please execute this link in order to complete the process of creating your account. -- You may click on the link embedded in the message (if your email system permits), or paste the link into your browser. -- Please

What do Boris Yeltzin and Liz Taylor have in common?

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Republic.Com: Interact with Professor Sunstein at the PrincetonPress Authors Forum

2001-04-10 Thread Matthew Gaylor
At 8:27 AM -0400 4/6/01, Chuck Creesy wrote: >Matt: Please contribute to our message forum with Cass Sunstein at >http://pup.princeton.edu/sunstein/ You can leave messages for Professor Cass Sunstein in Princeton University Press's author forum. I just added my review of Republic.com to thei

Investment Pact

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how in the world do i join this group?

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RE: Judge in Jim Bell trial says media may not quote public documents

2001-04-10 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
rumor has it that Tanner is going to replace Jackson on the Microsoft trial and vice versa. this will allow the appeals court to make an empirical test of a question that has long troubled them, which one of the judges is the greater jackass. Phill > -Original Message- > From: [E

ANNOUNCE*N: San Francisco Cypherpunks, 4/7, 1pm, Moscone Center North, Room 122

2001-04-10 Thread Bill Stewart
Saturday April 7 Cypherpunks Meeting in San Francisco. The meeting will be at Moscone Center North, in Room 122. Go in the door, take the escalators downstairs. We've been told that we shouldn't need badges to get to the room (and they're still setting up the exhibit floor), but if that turns out

ANNOUNCE: San Francisco Cypherpunks, 4/7, 1pm, Moscone Center North

2001-04-10 Thread Bill Stewart
Saturday April 7 Cypherpunks Meeting in San Francisco. The meeting will be at Moscone Center North, The room number will be finalized in a couple of hours, and we'll post signs at the door as well as sending out mail. This is the FIRST Saturday of the month, because the RSA conference will be the

Re: CDR: Cypherpunks Web Archive

2001-04-10 Thread Duncan Frissell
At 01:56 PM 4/5/01 -0700, Eric Cordian wrote: >Does anyone know why the Cypherpunks archive at >www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/ has been down for over a day now? No. But the *other* archive is still up: http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/ DCF All purpose political argument stopper: "My 5

RE: Seth Finkelstein, reluctant cypherpunk?

2001-04-10 Thread Bill Stewart
At 05:45 AM 04/04/2001 -0400, Seth Finkelstein wrote: >Tim May wrote: > > I see a newcomer, Seth Finkelstein, harshly criticizing Declan and > > others. Easy to ignore someone who wasn't even here the day before > > yesterday. > >Point of information: "nonconsentingly delurked" is more accurate >t

That latest military SNAFU

2001-04-10 Thread George
Ugh, let's see, not the crash in Vietnam, not the sub taking out the Japs... The NSA spy plane: FoxNewsChannel reports the plane was flying straight while on autopilot when it was hit. We outta send Steve Martin over to apologize. ____ _ _ \ \ / /__| | | \ \ /\ / /

TannerWatch: Jack don't need no body language

2001-04-10 Thread Norm DePlume
Law And Justice by Irv Benzion When I think of Law and Justice my thoughts are directed to the film "Judgment at Nuremberg." I picture Spencer Tracy in his portrayal of the "Presiding Judge," sifting through mountains of evidence and contradictory testimony with only one objective in mind... t