Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-30 Thread bruseker
YES Quoting Дарья Юрьевна Гук : Yes С уважением, старший научный сотрудник отдела археологии Восточной Европы и Сибири Государственного Эрмитажа, канд.филол.наук, член НК ИКОМОС Д.Ю.Гук With kind regards, Daria Hookk Senior Researcher of the dept. of archaeology of Eastern Europe and

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-25 Thread Maja Žumer
YES Maja Žumer Od: Crm-sig v imenu Дарья Юрьевна Гук Poslano: četrtek, 25. april 2019 16:52:04 Za: Martin Doerr; crm-sig@ics.forth.gr Zadeva: Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-" Yes С уважением, старший научный

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-25 Thread Дарья Юрьевна Гук
Yes С уважением, старший научный сотрудник отдела археологии Восточной Европы и Сибири Государственного Эрмитажа, канд.филол.наук, член НК ИКОМОС Д.Ю.Гук With kind regards, Daria Hookk Senior Researcher of the dept. of archaeology of Eastern Europe and Siberia of the State Hermitage

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-24 Thread Martin Doerr
Dear Melanie, I totally respect and like your position, but here I have been misunderstood completely: I meant the discussion about gender neutral language may distract from discussing how to deal in reality with men and women not only as equals, but in deep mutual respect and actually

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-23 Thread melanie . roche
by the worldwide emotion that has surged in the wake of the fire. Rest assured that the old lady will be waiting for you in June and that she is still stunning, even without a rooftop. :) De :"Robert Sanderson" A : "crm-sig@ics.forth.gr" Date : 16/04/2019 20:26 Objet : R

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-17 Thread Дарья Юрьевна Гук
Cultural tragedy, lost World Heritage https://gigarama.ru/notredame/?fbclid=IwAR3S0G--Br9Zv37lCTKgKVl7CDSwLmFdf6ejdFDXJH8YkigeN4TSa9aTEIk Anyway, I propose Hand-Made. With kind regards, Daria Hookk Senior Researcher of the dept. of archaeology of Eastern Europe and Siberia of the State

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-16 Thread Robert Sanderson
webinar (https://dh-tech.github.io/workshops/2018-10-15-CIDOC-CRMbyPractice/). From: Crm-sig on behalf of Christian-Emil Smith Ore Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 9:26 AM To: crm-sig@ics.forth.gr Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remo

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-13 Thread Florian Kräutli
-tech.github.io/workshops/2018-10-15-CIDOC-CRMbyPractice/).  From: Crm-sig on behalf of Christian-Emil Smith Ore Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 9:26 AM To: crm-sig@ics.forth.gr Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-" 

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-13 Thread Christian-Emil Smith Ore
April 2019 19:47 To: crm-sig@ics.forth.gr Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-" Dear All, I would like to stay neutral in this issue. Personally, I do not believe that changing language is the way to make sure we respect men and women equally and give

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Martin Doerr
Dear All, I would like to stay neutral in this issue. Personally, I do not believe that changing language is the way to make sure we respect men and women equally and give them equal chances, and it gives me a taste of distracting from what should be discussed. Therefore I am not happy about

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Franco Niccolucci
Formed within English, by compounding. Etymons: man n.1, made adj. > > Etymology: < man n.1 + made adj.... (Show More) > > A. adj. > > 1. > > Categories » > > > > a. Made or caused by human beings (as opposed to occurring or being made > nat

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Sledge, Jane
-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-" Dear All, I absolutely agree with Florian. All best Esther Florian Kräutli hat am 12. April 2019 um 12:35 geschrieben: Dear Pierre and all, I strongly disagree. This is not about the origins of the word but of its usage a

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Robert Sanderson
to not propose it. Rob From: Crm-sig on behalf of Franco Niccolucci Date: Friday, April 12, 2019 at 8:05 AM To: Christian-Emil Smith Ore Cc: "crm-sig@ics.forth.gr" Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-" I (almost) fully agree with Christian-E

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Achille Felicetti
ons: man n.1, made adj. >> Etymology: < man n.1 + made adj (Show More) >> A. adj. >> 1. >> Categories » >> >> a. Made or caused by human beings (as opposed to occurring or being made >> naturally); arising from human activity; artificial. Also figu

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Pierre Choffé
inclusive. > > Best, > > George > > > > On 2019-04-12 14:23, Dominic Oldman wrote: > > I strongly agree with Florian. > > > > It is simply right to make these changes. > > > > D > > > > --------------------- > > > > FROM:

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Franco Niccolucci
manufactured from regenerated or synthetic polymer. Of > a fabric: made or consisting of such fibre. > 1950—1990(Show quotations) > > > Thesaurus » > > †2. Of a church minister: appointed by humans as opposed to God. Obsolete. > In quot. a1742 as men-made. > a1718—a1742(

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Esther Chen
Dear All, I absolutely agree with Florian. All best Esther > Florian Kräutli hat am 12. April 2019 um > 12:35 geschrieben: > > Dear Pierre and all, > > I strongly disagree. This is not about the origins of the word but of its > usage and meaning in present day. The CRM should

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Øyvind Eide
ic Oldman wrote: >> I strongly agree with Florian. >> It is simply right to make these changes. >> D >> ------------- >> FROM: Crm-sig on behalf of Florian >> Kräutli >> SENT: 12 April 2019 11:35 >> TO: Pierre Choffé; Athanasios Velio

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Richard Light
oun...@ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Florian Kräutli <mailto:fkraeu...@mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de> SENT: 12 April 2019 11:35 TO: Pierre Choffé; Athanasios Velios; crm-sig@ics.forth.gr<mailto:crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> SUBJECT: Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-" Dear

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread George Bruseker
: 12 April 2019 11:35 TO: Pierre Choffé; Athanasios Velios; crm-sig@ics.forth.gr SUBJECT: Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-" Dear Pierre and all, I strongly disagree. This is not about the origins of the word but of its usage and meaning in present day. The

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Dominic Oldman
I strongly agree with Florian. It is simply right to make these changes. D From: Crm-sig on behalf of Florian Kräutli Sent: 12 April 2019 11:35 To: Pierre Choffé; Athanasios Velios; crm-sig@ics.forth.gr Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Florian Kräutli
Dear Pierre and all, I strongly disagree. This is not about the origins of the word but of its usage and meaning in present day. The CRM should reflect (changing) knowledge contexts and we as a community should react to and respect developments in the world, and not

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Pierre Choffé
Dear all, This subject is typical of the politically correct attitude of our times and most people (including me) generally avoid getting involved in such discussions - especially on social media where you would immediately get drowned in a flood of insults - and the result is that we have a

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Athanasios Velios
I support the change of the English labels to: E22 Made Object E25 Made Feature E71 Made Thing And I think this can be proposed as an issue to be voted through the SIG list. All the best, Thanasis On 12/04/2019 05:38, Robert Sanderson wrote: > Dear all, > > On behalf of the Linked Art

[Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread Robert Sanderson
Dear all, On behalf of the Linked Art consortium, I would like to propose that the labels for E22 Man-Made Object, E25 Man-Made Feature and E71 Man-Made Thing be changed to drop the unnecessarily gendered “Man-“. In this day and age, I think we should recognize that inclusion and diversity