Bugzilla seems to be unresponsive for a while this morning (Git and Hudson seem
to work).
Is anybody else experiencing this?
-Henrik
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I can confirm it.
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From: Henrik h...@protos.de
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Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:47:46 AM
Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Bugzilla hanging?
Bugzilla seems to
I didn't have any problems with Bugzilla today.
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Am 30.07.2013 08:47, schrieb Henrik:
Bugzilla seems to be unresponsive for a while this morning (Git and Hudson seem
to work).
Is anybody
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 00:36 +, Doug Schaefer wrote:
+1 for that. I've seen (and made for that matter) commercial products
do that. Download a minimal p2 install with an Eclipse application
that drives the rest of the install. We could ask for a list of
languages or platforms they want to
Started by timer
Building remotely on hudson-slave2
Checkout:efxclipse-runtime-1.x-nightly /
/opt/buildhomes/hudsonBuild/workspace/efxclipse-runtime-1.x-nightly -
hudson.remoting.Channel@51fe358a:hudson-slave2
Using strategy: Default
Last Built Revision: Revision
Works fine so far from Zurich this morning.
Dani
From: Tom Schindl tom.schi...@bestsolution.at
To: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
Date: 30.07.2013 10:03
Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Bugzilla hanging?
Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org
I can't connect to bugzilla - connection timeout.
Ralf
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Daniel Megert daniel_meg...@ch.ibm.comwrote:
Works fine so far from Zurich this morning.
Dani
From:Tom Schindl tom.schi...@bestsolution.at
To:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
On 07/30/2013 09:09 AM, Krzysztof Daniel wrote:
I'm very skeptical about P2 in the downloader. It was created in the
past (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Installer) and never made
into real world. AFAIK it would suffer from the same issues as regular
P2 - does require java to be
Packages are good because they provide a nice starting point for the
user since they aggregate the most common features together (e.g. Java
or Java EE).
I think we could improve the situation by:
- Getting rid of some of the obscure / too narrow focused packages.
- On first start, prompt the
On 07/30/2013 12:35 AM, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote:
Would user experience be better if there was only one Eclipse package
on the main download site that had pretty much everything that's in
the aggregated repository?
I really don't think so.
Packages are a good way to start which
On 07/30/2013 11:01 AM, Pascal Rapicault wrote:
- On first start, prompt the user with a customization wizard that let
the user add more plugins to his Eclipse. For example, it could ask
questions about the language being used, the SCM, etc.
That would be an interesting approach and a good
+1
The vanilla Welcome page is pretty empty. It could be rearranged so
that the Welcome and Customization Wizard teaser appeared together.
Regards
Ed Willink
On 30/07/2013 10:56, Mickael Istria
wrote:
On 07/30/2013
so they are actually useful to end-users.
Actually, we have no evidence that users find packages useful. They download
them because what else is there for them to do. Then if they are
experienced, they know what's included and how to install the missing
pieces. If not, they thrash on forums
A frequent complaint is that Eclipse contains too many things for usage,
so many UI entries make usage more complicated and confusing. I can imagine
that people doing some GMF stuff really don't want WTP at all because it
introduce a lot of new menus, so a GMF user which is used to the Modeling
On Jul 30, 2013, at 6:13 AM, Konstantin Komissarchik
konstantin.komissarc...@oracle.com wrote:
so they are actually useful to end-users.
Actually, we have no evidence that users find packages useful. They download
them because what else is there for them to do. Then if they are
One of the three nodes had hung itself. Oddly, our load balancer was
seeing it as dead but insisted on still sending some connections to it.
We'll look into it. I brought the dead node back to life a couple of
hours ago.
Denis
On 07/30/2013 06:19 AM, Wim Jongman wrote:
Connection
I am not sure about the disaster thing really. As we are also having the
discussion about other IDE's look at IntelliJ just for a second
(http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/index.html)
They have 2 downloads. One that is free and one that is everything.
That makes it at least very simple
Are you sure that “Ultimate” actually means everything? To me the difference is
free vs non free.
I think the problem of today’s download page is that it forces you to ask
yourself too many questions. I’m primarily a Java developer so if there was no
other choice I would naturally download the
On 07/30/2013 03:23 PM, Campo, Christian wrote:
Thats what I am told that Ultimate is everything. You can probably
still install more, and IntelliJ does not do C/C++ or other languages
(I believe).
The comparison with IntelliJ may not be very helpful when it comes to
packaging because IntelliJ
On 2013-07-30 5:52 PM, Mickael Istria wrote:
And seriously what again is Standard vs Java vs Java EE ?
I agree with that point. I'd rather see those 3 ones replaced with a
general Java and JEE package. It seems to make total sense with the
current status of Java development use-cases.
Are
On 07/30/2013 03:57 PM, Igor Fedorenko wrote:
Are you suggesting forcing webtools on all java developers? Seriously?
I've just had a new look at the Eclipse community survey and since about
45% (~=100% - web dev perventage - RCP percentage - non-Java users
percentage) of Java users are doing
As an alternative we could replace Standard with an Ultimate Java Edition
(including J2EE, WTP, RCP, Modeling) and see what the download numbers are
next year.
See I totally agree that are places where you want to specialize. My only
problem that we are discussing this among ~ 1000 eclipse
Just to close the loop on this -- the issue was caused by our load
balancer's keepalive mechanism, which was set to tcp. Since the
kernel-based tcp stack generally keeps functioning even when a server
hangs itself from an Out Of Memory condition, the load balancer still
sees the server as
On 07/30/2013 04:49 PM, Campo, Christian wrote:
But your point about a bloated UI is worthwhile thinking about really.
Its in the same direction of Doug's and Martin's comment. About either
controlling the UI bloat or being able to switch from J2EE to RCP to
WTP in the same IDE without
I admit that I didnt look much in the Kepler repo if there was a feature for
me. My fear was that there is no single feature that includes everything that
is in the JavaEE Eclipse IDE. And I didnt really know or took the time to look
where I could possibly find it.
If I look at the Kepler repo
IntelliJ has 2 editions (free and ultimate), NetBeans has 5 edition (Java
SE, Java EE, C/C++, PHP and All), even Microsoft, the king of too many
product editions, has 8 editions of Visual Studio. Eclipse has 12 with one
more on the way, and that's just the packages available from eclipse.org.
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