Re: Digital Contracts: "Lie in X.509, Go to Jail"

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:56:14 -0400 "Steven M. Bellovin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In message , Robert Hettinga writes: > > > > > > > The solution to this madness, is, of course, bearer credentials, as > > Stephan Brands points out in his recently publ

Re: Digital Contracts: "Lie in X.509, Go to Jail"

At 10:35 AM -0400 on 10/20/99, Arnold Reinhold wrote: > No. The complexity of international distribution agreements and >general stupidity are much bigger factors than cash settlement >costs. Two of my books are translated into Spanish. The US is the >second largest Spanish speaking market in th

Re: Digital Contracts: "Lie in X.509, Go to Jail"

At 4:06 AM -0700 10/20/99, Ryan Lackey wrote: >Anyone want to try redistribution in the US? I could order 10-20 copies >from Stefan Brands, assuming he's willing to sell in quantity, and then >handle resale in the US for e-gold or US checks or regular postal money >orders or whatever. If you're

Re: Digital Contracts: "Lie in X.509, Go to Jail"

Anyone want to try redistribution in the US? I could order 10-20 copies from Stefan Brands, assuming he's willing to sell in quantity, and then handle resale in the US for e-gold or US checks or regular postal money orders or whatever. If you're interested, email me. An "international postal mo

Re: Digital Contracts: "Lie in X.509, Go to Jail"

At 10:24 PM -0400 on 10/19/99, Dan Geer wrote: > What is it about wanting to change the instantaneous & electronic world > that generates this sort of time & paper hazing ritual? The lack of bearer microcash? :-). Once again, the cobbler's children have no shoes... Cheers, RAH --

Re: Digital Contracts: "Lie in X.509, Go to Jail"

I found reference to the book at www.fatbrain.com by doing a search using the ISBN number. 9090130594. Unfortunately, Fat Brain says it hasn't been printed yet (which, according to other people on this list, isn't true). You can leave your e-mail with Fat Brain and they will alert you when the b

Re: Digital Contracts: "Lie in X.509, Go to Jail"

$94 for the $50 book from the US, ($19 shipping and bank costs on the publisher's side, $25 for an "international money order"). Robert Hettinga wrote: > At 2:27 PM -0400 on 10/19/99, Somebody, at the head end of a long > line of other Sombodies, wrote: > > > Where can I get this book by Brands?

Re: Digital Contracts: "Lie in X.509, Go to Jail"

At 9:20 AM +1000 10/20/99, Julian Assange wrote: >Robert Hettinga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Evidently, there are only 500 in the first printing, but I bet Stefan > > didn't give them *all* away. :-). > > > > I bet that if you put in a special order to Amazon with the ISBN and > > the publi

Re: Digital Contracts: "Lie in X.509, Go to Jail"

> For details of how to order, see www.xs4all.nl/~brands/order.txt What is it about wanting to change the instantaneous & electronic world that generates this sort of time & paper hazing ritual? Yours in irreverent confusion, Lightning Rod

Re: Digital Contracts: "Lie in X.509, Go to Jail"

Robert Hettinga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Evidently, there are only 500 in the first printing, but I bet Stefan > didn't give them *all* away. :-). > > I bet that if you put in a special order to Amazon with the ISBN and > the publisher in it, they'll manage to sell one to you on order. Up

Re: Digital Contracts: "Lie in X.509, Go to Jail"

At 2:27 PM -0400 on 10/19/99, Somebody, at the head end of a long line of other Sombodies, wrote: > Where can I get this book by Brands? To which, at 8:16 PM +0200 10/19/99, Stefan Brands wrote: > For details of how to order, see www.xs4all.nl/~brands/order.txt :-). Cheers, RAH ---

Re: Digital Contracts: "Lie in X.509, Go to Jail"

Evidently, there are only 500 in the first printing, but I bet Stefan didn't give them *all* away. :-). I bet that if you put in a special order to Amazon with the ISBN and the publisher in it, they'll manage to sell one to you on order. Upon receiving a bunch of orders for the book from some

Re: Digital Contracts: "Lie in X.509, Go to Jail"

In message , Robert Hettinga writes: > > > The solution to this madness, is, of course, bearer credentials, as > Stephan Brands points out in his recently published doctoral dissertation > "Rethinking Public Key Infrastructures and Digital Certificates --

Digital Contracts: "Lie in X.509, Go to Jail"

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