Re: [css-d] Bizarre repeating paragraph in IE Win

2005-05-10 Thread Ingo Chao
Karen Friesen schrieb: ... I'm using a p tag to display a large image as a background image, with a bunch of top-padding to make it all visible... In IE Win, the background image started to stutter -- there was a bit of space below it and then the bottom centimeter showed again. I put a red bor

[css-d] content-dependent column width

2005-05-10 Thread Erel Segal
In my site, there are many pages that contain 2 types of information (class a and class b). In some pages there is more a than b, while in other pages there is more b than a. I would like to display the information side by side, such that the space will adjust according to the actual amount of data

Re: [css-d] lack of padding when using a classname in a ASP variable

2005-05-10 Thread David Dorward
On 5/10/05, Gerrit Bakker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Working with HTML+CSS+ASP, in ASP file using a class name as a variable see > beneed this line: > > valign=top> That you generate your markup using ASP is not relevant. What is the HTML output fro the ASP engine? -- David Dorward

[css-d] IE dropdown menu item height

2005-05-10 Thread Rob Agar
hey up all I'm implementing a css + javascript drop down menu: http://www.cairnsinfo.com/menu_test.asp looks lovely in FF (of course), but can anyone tell me why ing IE6 makes the tags' height 1 pixel too small, resulting in the 1 pixel wide dark blue line under each top level menu item as y

SV: [css-d] Table renders differently between Firefox 1.03 and IE 6 SP2

2005-05-10 Thread Arnt O. Kvannefoss
Paul Debban wrote: > I wouldn't call it a bug. You have defined 4 rows in your layout table > through your rowspans, but you haven't populated all of the rows with > cells > to define a height. Firefox fixed this up in a way that was pleasing to > you, IE did not.   > I think your solution is t

RE: RE: [css-d] IE Mac issues, Mac browser tests, and an odd css validation problem

2005-05-10 Thread BJ
http://kickasswebdesign.com/wordpress/ Bruno said: "You have clear:both on your wrapper . . . Remove that clear and IE/Mac should work correctly." This took care of the IEMac problem and since the reason for that clear:both being there was 15 iterations of this layout ago, it went away safely. B

Re: [css-d] IE Also Breaking My Layout

2005-05-10 Thread Lorin Rivers
On May 10, 2005, at 5:52 PM, Lorin Rivers wrote: I'm really stumped here... The "central section" (70's TV text) is supposed to have a right- margin large enough that the "right section" (yokel text) will be the only thing on the right side except for the big border. Also the h2s are supposed t

Re: [css-d] IE Mac issues, Mac browser tests, and an odd css validation problem

2005-05-10 Thread Lorin Rivers
On May 10, 2005, at 1:03 PM, BJ wrote: According to the mac screenshot generator IE Mac completely blows apart my layout in a horribly spectacular manner- instead of three columns side by side I apparently have stacking columns, at least from what I can see in the screenshot. Any help/fixes

[css-d] IE Also Breaking My Layout

2005-05-10 Thread Lorin Rivers
I'm really stumped here... The "central section" (70's TV text) is supposed to have a right- margin large enough that the "right section" (yokel text) will be the only thing on the right side except for the big border. Also the h2s are supposed to have an orange background.

RE: [css-d] IE Windows Header Background Problem

2005-05-10 Thread Bruno Fassino
Melanie Moore wrote: > I am having trouble getting my repeating header background to > show up in Windows IE6. [...] > h1 {margin: 0; padding: 150px 0 0 0; > background: #fff url(images/topbar.jpg) 0 0 repeat-x;} > > Link to html: http://dev3.esonicspider.net/ > Link to Css: http://dev3.esonic

Re: [css-d] Background area too big in IE6/XP

2005-05-10 Thread Paul Jinks
Thanks Gary Display: block was fine this time, but there's bound to come a time when it isn't. Paul __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio

[css-d] css positioning help

2005-05-10 Thread 4css!!!!
I have two pages that I am trying to figure out relative position with. http://csstest2.debsplace.org/relativeP_costarica.shtml In firefox this one doesn't look too bad, I dont' think. But, the wrapper border doesn't go all the way around the content as I intend for it to do. http://csstest2.deb

RE: [css-d] IE Mac issues, Mac browser tests, and an odd css validation problem

2005-05-10 Thread Bruno Fassino
BJ wrote: > Page here (xhtml validates) > http://kickasswebdesign.com/wordpress/ > > CSS here: > http://kickasswebdesign.com/wordpress/wp-content/themes/kickass-squawk/style .css > According to the mac screenshot generator IE Mac completely > blows apart my layout in a horribly spectacular manner

[css-d] Bizarre repeating paragraph in IE Win

2005-05-10 Thread Karen Friesen
I have a paragraph showing really strange behaviour in IE Win (of course). I don't think I've come across the behaviour before and I'm not having any luck with Google. I'm using a p tag to display a large image as a background image, with a bunch of top-padding to make it all visible. (I'm the

[css-d] IE Windows Header Background Problem

2005-05-10 Thread Melanie Moore
Hello, I am having trouble getting my repeating header background to show up in Windows IE6. I have tested the page in all the other browsers and it comes out fine. I origanally had a small image (width-10px) repeat-x in my header background. Then I tested a larger image (width-800px) that s

Re: [css-d] Site check

2005-05-10 Thread Martin . C . Austin
Kristian Eckert wrote on 05/10/2005 02:35:33 PM: > If anyone wants to look over these little layout problems I would be > grateful. This actually wasn't one of your questions, but is one of my pet peeves: I'd suggest you put little downward pointing arrows next to the header menu items that ha

Re: [css-d] is not displaying

2005-05-10 Thread Arnie Shafer
Thanks Eric. You fixed it. One more question: What determines the color? background or color? I know that "color" sets text color. Also, I did not realize that an hr had a border? It is confusing me, simple as it is. Thanks, Arnie - Original Message - From: Eric Ladner To: A

Re: [css-d] Site check

2005-05-10 Thread David Laakso
On Tue, 10 May 2005 15:35:33 -0400, Kristian Eckert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If anyone wants to look over these little layout problems I would be grateful. My menubar is aligned left in firefox and centered in ie. example: http://www.inwc-bsa.org/events.htm Some of my images on the main page

Re: [css-d] is not displaying

2005-05-10 Thread Schalk Neethling
[snip] Just above the footer on each page I have a reminder as to what page the reader is on. That reminder should be between two hr's. The problem is that the hr's do not display? [/snip] Try this: hr { border: 1 solid #000; width: 80%; background-color: #fff; height: 2px; } Arnie Shaf

[css-d] is not displaying

2005-05-10 Thread Arnie Shafer
Just above the footer on each page I have a reminder as to what page the reader is on. That reminder should be between two hr's. The problem is that the hr's do not display? They do display on my editor, AceHTML. Thanks for you help once again. Arnie Shafer http://abshafer.com ___

[css-d] Site check

2005-05-10 Thread Kristian Eckert
If anyone wants to look over these little layout problems I would be grateful. My menubar is aligned left in firefox and centered in ie. example: http://www.inwc-bsa.org/events.htm Some of my images on the main page are also aligned left in firefox and properly centered in ie example: see "Ideal

Re: [css-d] IE breaking my layout

2005-05-10 Thread Gary Turner
Barbara Dozetos wrote: I should be clear, here -- The problem in IE is the div#content dropping down below the left nav, rather than floating to the right. http://www.pcc.com/welcometest2.html Have you cleared cache? It appears to work just fine now that you have #content {}. cheers, gary -- Anyo

Re: [css-d] IE breaking my layout

2005-05-10 Thread Barbara Dozetos
Thanks, Gary! Another bug I'll remember now that I've had it hit my virtual windshield :) Barb Gary Turner wrote: This is one of IE's float model bugs. It applies the width of #content from the float's right edge instead of from the left side of body. Remove #content {width: 57em;}. If you

Re: [css-d] IE breaking my layout

2005-05-10 Thread Barbara Dozetos
I should be clear, here -- The problem in IE is the div#content dropping down below the left nav, rather than floating to the right. http://www.pcc.com/welcometest2.html Help, please :) Barb -- Barbara Dozetos ~ Web Designer/Graphic Designer Physician's Computer Company 1 Main St., #7 Winooski,

Re: [css-d] IE breaking my layout

2005-05-10 Thread Gary Turner
Barbara Dozetos wrote: I know -- what a surprise. Can one of you wonderful people tell me how to make IE behave properly with this layout? FireFox has it right, of course. http://www.pcc.com/welcometest2.html This is one of IE's float model bugs. It applies the width of #content from the floa

[css-d] Print CSS and bad output

2005-05-10 Thread Scott Povlot
I am having some problems with my print CSS. I am hoping that someone on the list will be able to help me. I have two different problems. On Firefox, the header section prints on a separate page than the content. I cannot figure out why. I have tried changing margins and padding on multiple se

Re: [css-d] Background area too big in IE6/XP

2005-05-10 Thread Gary Turner
Roman Rudenko wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2005 02:23:45 -0700, Paul Jinks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In Firefox, this displays fine, but in IE6/XP I get a thin area containing the background image at the bottom of the banner image. The width of this border seems to increase if I increase the text-si

Re: [css-d] Email link question

2005-05-10 Thread David Dorward
On 5/10/05, jordan WOLLMAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a way for me to add a link to my e-mail (mailto) without it being > spidered by search engines, and eventually filling my mailbox up with Viagra > offers? Not with CSS. You might consider accepting spam as an inevitable consequence

[css-d] IE breaking my layout

2005-05-10 Thread Barbara Dozetos
I know -- what a surprise. Can one of you wonderful people tell me how to make IE behave properly with this layout? FireFox has it right, of course. http://www.pcc.com/welcometest2.html Thanks! -- Barbara Dozetos ~ Web Designer/Graphic Designer Physician's Computer Company 1 Main St., #7 Winooski

Re: [css-d] nuff-respec: site check

2005-05-10 Thread David Laakso
On Tue, 10 May 2005 12:45:57 -0400, css-dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: XP_SP2 IE6.0 optimal 1280 LCD I am really interested in obscure browsers, Try browsercam.com and IE which i refuse to run Gee, thanks... I get the picture, but I'm only able to read most of it in accessiblity mode. Tough getting

[css-d] IE Mac issues, Mac browser tests, and an odd css validation problem

2005-05-10 Thread BJ
Page here (xhtml validates) http://kickasswebdesign.com/wordpress/ CSS here: http://kickasswebdesign.com/wordpress/wp-content/themes/kickass-squawk/style.css According to the mac screenshot generator IE Mac completely blows apart my layout in a horribly spectacular manner- instead of three columns

Re: [css-d] "Float" overlapping neighboring background/border

2005-05-10 Thread Steve Clay
Tuesday, May 10, 2005, 10:04:25 AM, Jonathan Abbett wrote: > background and/or border. The text accurately wraps around the floating > DIV, but the background and border span the width of the page and appear > "below" the floated DIV. > http://www.abbett.org/css_float_problem.html This is correc

[css-d] layout issue with floats and wide content

2005-05-10 Thread Mike Dougherty
the current site: http://pgiproducts.com/pgi.asp my attempt at removing the layout table: http://pgiproducts.com/skins/pgimsd/demo1.htm Resize your viewport small enough that the #content wraps below #nav I "fixed" my design proof in Firefox by #content {overflow: visible} but my proof used long

[css-d] List Border Problem

2005-05-10 Thread Smith, Sarah
I'm trying to put a border around a list. In Firefox, it LOOKS like the border-bottom of the ul is shifted 1px up and right, (and in IE it looks like it's shifted 1px up and to the left) causing the bottom corners to look like little crosses. I tried adding padding to see if I could bump the border

Re: [css-d] Email link question

2005-05-10 Thread !!blue
On 5/10/05, jordan WOLLMAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a way for me to add a link to my e-mail (mailto) without it being > spidered by search engines, and eventually filling my mailbox up with Viagra > offers? > > Sincerely, > > Jordan WOLLMAN // Ariamedia Corporation > Creative Directo

[css-d] nuff-respec: site check

2005-05-10 Thread css-dan
I am really interested in obscure browsers, and IE which i refuse to run :) http://www.nuff-respec.com/ Thanks, -daniel __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://cs

Re: [css-d] Stretching background images.

2005-05-10 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Christian Zumbrunnen wrote: I think the alistapart article Elastic Design by Patrick Griffiths (http://www.alistapart.com/articles/elastic/) shows what can be done using em’s instead of pixels in the image size. A demo is shown at http://www.htmldog.com/articles/elasticdesign/demo/ But I don’t know

Re: [css-d] "Float" overlapping neighboring background/border

2005-05-10 Thread diona kidd
I do see what you mean on this. In the last example I sent, I added a background: yellow to the H1...the color fills the entire element and the right floated div just 'sits on top' of the H1 level in the document. You could add a border to the floated element that matches the color of the backgroun

Re: [css-d] "Float" overlapping neighboring background/border

2005-05-10 Thread diona kidd
Maybe something like this? I only looked at it in FF on Fedora 3. Tried loading your original source just now, but it's not loading for me so you might want to compare to what you had. This creates a block element floated right and the text wraps around the block.

Re: [css-d] lack of padding when using a classname in a ASP variable

2005-05-10 Thread Jack Keller
Gerrit Bakker wrote: Working with HTML+CSS+ASP, in ASP file using a class name as a variable see beneed this line: valign=top> the <%midyellow %> ia a ASP variable. In my CSS file there are two classes on witch could be into the ASP variable: Okay, starting off with the classes you've provided be

Re: [css-d] Small gap between list items (not in IE)

2005-05-10 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Bruno Fassino wrote: > and the fact that it moves changing font-size makes me think that it > is a so-called rounding error (due to measurements expressed in em.) > Ingo Chao has a very detailed description here [1]; also check [2]. Thanks Bruno, that was the problem. I fixed it by removing the l

Re: [css-d] lack of padding when using a classname in a ASP variable

2005-05-10 Thread Christian Heilmann
On 5/10/05, Gerrit Bakker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > First time so lets see > > Working with HTML+CSS+ASP, in ASP file using a class name as a variable see > beneed this line: > > valign=top> is there a space in the midyellow value? If not that would render out class=foovalign=top fo

[css-d] lack of padding when using a classname in a ASP variable

2005-05-10 Thread Gerrit Bakker
Hi, First time so lets see Working with HTML+CSS+ASP, in ASP file using a class name as a variable see beneed this line: valign=top> the <%midyellow %> ia a ASP variable. In my CSS file there are two classes on witch could be into the ASP variable: td.center_page { width:346px; background

Re: [css-d] Site Check [pc users]

2005-05-10 Thread Lothar B. Baier
Hi! Jack Keller schrieb: I have been working on somewhat a faux company, the content is a work in progress so just be amused if you feel like it, but I am concerned on the nav and where I could clean up my css a tad possibly. site: www.mediaextra.net Nice design, but somehow not realy acessible.

Re: [css-d]RE: Firefox background image in header not fully visible

2005-05-10 Thread !!blue
On 5/10/05, Simone Hutchinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hopeing someone can shed some light on my problem regardless! > (Thinking of making the background image border part of the photo > montage, but only as a last last resort!) > > Kind regards, > Simone I did something similar for a website

Re: [css-d] "Float" overlapping neighboring background/border

2005-05-10 Thread Jonathan Abbett
Diona-- Thanks for the suggestion. I guess my illustration left out one important aspect. With enough text, I would like the left-side stuff to eventually spread out beyond the right float, i.e.: HEADER_WITH_BORDER_ RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RI

Re: [css-d] "Float" overlapping neighboring background/border

2005-05-10 Thread Diona Kidd
Jon, Usually when I do something like this, I would add a container div around the entire area with a width and left floated div around the H1 element and set a width for that as well, leaving the silver 'float' element you already have as-is. Diona On May 10, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Jonathan Abbet

[css-d] Email link question

2005-05-10 Thread jordan WOLLMAN
Is there a way for me to add a link to my e-mail (mailto) without it being spidered by search engines, and eventually filling my mailbox up with Viagra offers? Sincerely, Jordan WOLLMAN // Ariamedia Corporation Creative Director T : (214) 382-2650 | M : (214) 208-8563 14679 Midway Rd. Suite 219

Re: [css-d] Small gap between list items (not in IE)

2005-05-10 Thread Bruno Fassino
Thierry Koblentz wrote: > http://www.tjkdesign.com/clients/uni/ > > In the sidebar, above "Checkout", "Logout" and "Clothing" I have 1 or 2 > extra pixel. I haven't looked at your code, but the manifestation of the problem and the fact that it moves changing font-size makes me think that it is a

Re: [css-d] Extra pixel below each LI in IE

2005-05-10 Thread Greg Van Ullen
Sweet! Indeed, I did forget that... d'oh! Thanks so much! -Greg Ingo Chao wrote: You forgot to mention: body {... font-size:12pt; ...} Remove the font metrics from a and insert them in li: #menu li { background: red; font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold; line-height: 12px; } #menu li a { padding: 8p

Re: [css-d] Site Check [pc users]

2005-05-10 Thread Jack Keller
On May 10, 2005, at 12:37 AM, David Laakso wrote: XP_SP2 IE6.0/FF1.03/Opera8 IE has a little problem when zooming the fonts when you set the font-size on the body in em's. Try changing 1em to 100.01%. I'll give that a whirl Opera8 is doing a number on the green images. A few errors on the CSS fil

[css-d]RE: Firefox background image in header not fully visible

2005-05-10 Thread Simone Hutchinson
Apologies: I made three mistakes in my earlier post. (!) 1. I forgot to give you the URL...! http://staging.sunsol.co.uk/afit/index.htm 2. My problem is in IE/Win AND Firefox/Win (not just in Firefox, sorry) 3. I included some unnecessary CSS (ignore the following: #mainBodyBorder{ /* =for fi

[css-d] "Float" overlapping neighboring background/border

2005-05-10 Thread Jonathan Abbett
[I apologize if this question has been asked before. I haven't yet been able to formulate any Google queries that return information related to my problem, so this post is a last resort!] My issue is such: I have a DIV which is set to float to the right. Next to the DIV (on the left), I have a

Re: [css-d] Trouble with columns in IE...

2005-05-10 Thread David Dickerson
Ingo, Thanks, that was the prob. Working fine now. I appreciate it! Ingo Chao wrote: David Dickerson schrieb: I've got three columns, set by floats, and the center column (recent articles) is being bumped below everything else in IE only. There are two e-mail adresses in the right .ads/What's N

RE: [css-d] Table renders differently between Firefox 1.03 and IE 6SP2

2005-05-10 Thread Pringle, Ron
> Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > > It's an *exclusive Internet Explorer feature* aimed at > relieving us from > > having to line up anything. IE does it for us by expanding > cells until > > they line up, and use vertical="middle" as default for extra > > improvements. Pity it missed by 1px because of

Re: [css-d] IE Display Issue, Holly Hack?

2005-05-10 Thread Ingo Chao
Ketan M. Vakil (518-506-6812) schrieb: http://dev.ketanvakil.com/blueslate/ourindustries/case_studies.html ... I think you have two options to prevent this bug: remove clear:left from #contentleft or change ... to ... Ingo __

[css-d] Firefox background image in header not fully visible

2005-05-10 Thread Simone Hutchinson
I am working on a website that has a header photo at the top, followed by the company logo and tagline underneath. I have a border that wraps around the entire content (header, 3 column divs), but the top right of the border is an image, as it is curved. I have currently set this top right curve a

Re: [css-d] Background area too big in IE6/XP

2005-05-10 Thread Roman Rudenko
On Tue, 10 May 2005 02:23:45 -0700, Paul Jinks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In Firefox, this displays fine, but in IE6/XP I get a thin area containing the background image at the bottom of the banner image. The width of this border seems to increase if I increase the text-size on the browser. Si

Re: [css-d] Re: -999em safe?

2005-05-10 Thread Jan Brasna
No, that isn't an error. They are _screen_ readers, not aural browsers. Really? OK. (I expected them to behave as aural devices, my bad) Of course most (all?) image replacement techniques still fall over with the css-on/images-off combination. Not neccessarily, I'm using Pixy's IR, DIR and Dynatext

[css-d] IE Display Issue, Holly Hack?

2005-05-10 Thread Ketan M. Vakil (518-506-6812)
Hi everyone. If anyone has a few mins it would be much appreciated if you could grab a look at this page: http://dev.ketanvakil.com/blueslate/ourindustries/case_studies.html This page in particular is causing me problems - display was fine in Safari/Firefox and then displays as it does in IE 6

Re: [css-d] Guillotine Bug

2005-05-10 Thread Chris Ovenden
Really helpful post - thanks! Chris On 5/10/05, Ingo Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Liverpoolmom schrieb: > > I think I've got it but don't understand the fix, where the fix goes in the > > styles or what to place in the html. Can someone help me, please. I'm new > > to this list and am just

[css-d] Re: -999em safe?

2005-05-10 Thread David Dorward
On 5/10/05, Jan Brasna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Instead of 'display: none' because this is not read by the screen > readers, which (in error) accept the screen media type, even when they > shouldn't. No, that isn't an error. They are _screen_ readers, not aural browsers. They read what is on

Re: [css-d] Site check...

2005-05-10 Thread Christian Heilmann
On 5/10/05, Shane Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The original ; www.dunmaglass.com > > My effort : www.integrawebdesign/dunmaglass/dunmaglass.html > > Sorry Mike, your effort is currently giving me a 404. he forgot the .co.uk after integrawebdesign. -- Chris Heilmann Blog: http://www.wa

Re: [css-d] -999em safe?

2005-05-10 Thread Jan Brasna
Instead of 'display: none' because this is not read by the screen readers, which (in error) accept the screen media type, even when they shouldn't. So you don't hide the text (skip links, image replacement... mostly accessibility tools), you just position it offscreen. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB

RE: [css-d] Site check...

2005-05-10 Thread Shane Porter
> The original ; www.dunmaglass.com > My effort : www.integrawebdesign/dunmaglass/dunmaglass.html Sorry Mike, your effort is currently giving me a 404. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/c

[css-d] Site check...

2005-05-10 Thread Mike Davies
I have been experimenting with the conversion of a site from tables to css. I think the original was designed in Dreamweaver and is a mass of table cells, most of which are empty just for layout. I wanted to see if I could produce the same layout using only css and produce cleaner code. The origin

Re: [css-d] images not lining up

2005-05-10 Thread Barbara Dozetos
Thanks, Roman! That did the trick -- but you knew that already. Barb Roman Rudenko wrote: clear: (left/right/both) forces an element to go below all previous floats on that side (note: I favoured simplicity over correctness in this statement). So, your code can be rewritten as If you want

[css-d] Background area too big in IE6/XP

2005-05-10 Thread Paul Jinks
Hi all I have a banner which contains a centered image: CSS: #header { color: #000; background-image: url(../images/bullet1.gif); background-repeat: repeat; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-right: 10px; margin-top: 5px; margin-left: 10px;

Re: [css-d] Site Check

2005-05-10 Thread Ingo Chao
Peter Hyde-Smith schrieb: http://webpages.charter.net/angusair/bayonehome.html Welcome Peter. - #lowernavbar does not "contain" the floating #lowernavelements (search bar), in consequence, when you narrow the window below approx. 650px (depending on the text size), these floats stick out of the n

Re: [css-d] Guillotine Bug

2005-05-10 Thread Ingo Chao
Liverpoolmom schrieb: I think I've got it but don't understand the fix, where the fix goes in the styles or what to place in the html. Can someone help me, please. I'm new to this list and am just completing a six-week course at IWA/HTML Guild. http://www.liverpoolmomsbnp.com/css-intermediate-c