Re: [css-d] Need Help with problem using floats Easy Clearing method - Take 2

2005-09-15 Thread JF Simard
It seems that the problem start occuring in Opera 8.0.2. It looks fine in the previous 8.0.1 Maybe they made a change in the last upgrade that renders the easy clearfix method unappliable. That would be bad. I'll see what I can find on their site. Pages identical in FF and Opera8 All seems

[css-d] Negative margin problem in Firefox 1.0.6

2005-09-15 Thread Lakshmi Natarajan
Hi List, I need to create custom borders around a photo whose bordered width can be 150 or 300px. I am trying to do this so as to make it easy for a CMS programmer to use my code, so that all he has to do is say div class="photo150" or div class="photo300" and everything else is done by eleme

Re: [css-d] Image Replacement - IE z-index problem

2005-09-15 Thread Martin Petrov
Yes it's still there for screen readers, but it is not visible :( I saw how they use images for text on sites such as opera.com and happycog.com. They put them as simple Please, check my code. Rading about z-index on w3.org is pretty hard to me. Why Opera and Firefox put the text under the b

RE: [css-d] Is it possible to style a cell TD so that images inside of itwith links have no border?

2005-09-15 Thread Peter Williams
> From: Bruce Searl > > The goal is to apply formatting to a table or table cell, > that will prevent the border > from showing if the image contained in it has a link around > it > Bruce, td a img {border: none;} should do the trick for you. You could add text-decoration: none too just to

RE: [css-d] Unwanted Wrapping of Graphics in IE5.x Win

2005-09-15 Thread Duckworth, Nigel
Thanks Georg! That worked for IE5.0 and 5.5! What is this bug? It's not the 3 pixel jog is it? I want to look into it a bit more - surprised I haven't encountered it before. Thanks again, -Nigel -Original Message- From: Gunlaug Sørtun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[css-d] Is it possible to style a cell TD so that images inside of it with links have no border?

2005-09-15 Thread Bruce Searl
Hello all you CSS brains. I've got what might be a simple "no", or "why would you?" or "You can - but you shouldn't!" sort of question. But thus far all I've been able to do is nothing... The goal is to apply formatting to a table or table cell, that will prevent the border from showing if

Re: [css-d] Background property inherits backwards?

2005-09-15 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 16 Sep 2005, at 2:09 am, rhett crowe wrote: Hey Everybody, I have a page with 2 floated columns created with divs, in a container div, nested in another main div. When I close the container div and then put an , the background properties of the show up in the columns in the div above. (T

Re: [css-d] Weird IE5 Mac bug...

2005-09-15 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > That is one of the variants here: > Thanks for the link... > All that relative positioning and absolute positioning you use > here Each r.p box creates its own stacking context, which is > anyway layered on top of previous ones. > Then the anonymous box that wra

Re: [css-d] Weird IE5 Mac bug...

2005-09-15 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 15 Sep 2005, at 11:26 pm, Thierry Koblentz wrote: "Test case" (IE5 Mac OS9/X): http://www.tjkdesign.com/eStore/macbug.asp This is about image elements (not background images). As explained on the page below, the long image (the one that says betterfly.com) comes on top of the logo *and* the

Re: [css-d] Unwanted Wrapping of Graphics in IE5.x Win

2005-09-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Duckworth, Nigel wrote: In my simplified test case I have 2 graphics in a div, first floats left, second floats right. Looks fine in most browsers except for Win IE5. http://nigelduckworth.com/test/one/test_ie5.html 'IE5.0 only' corrections: #banner {width: 704px; background: transparent;

[css-d] Unwanted Wrapping of Graphics in IE5.x Win

2005-09-15 Thread Duckworth, Nigel
In my simplified test case I have 2 graphics in a div, first floats left, second floats right. Looks fine in most browsers except for Win IE5. I tried display inline (double margin float bug) and setting heights, removing white space from the html and a few other things but nothing worked. Any help

Re: [css-d] css validator confusion

2005-09-15 Thread Jan Brasna
It might be some kind of prevention of bad cascading (eg. user or browser default stylesheet) that may render the text unreadable. AFAIK it's some rule in WCAG - if you set foreground color, set also the background color. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com

Re: [css-d] css validator confusion

2005-09-15 Thread David Laakso
cFA wrote: http://aenonfiredesign.com/test/validator/ validation: * http://tinyurl.com/d6685* is it saying that for every element I specify a color, I also in turn need to specify a background color and vice versa? could use some help understanding this -clint Maybe the validator i

Re: [css-d] Pre-Launch Site check

2005-09-15 Thread Donna Casey
Rob Cochrane wrote: Tanya Renne wrote: Unveiling tonight - launching tomorrow ... http://www.orchidsuites.net/asq509/ Hello Tanya, Opera v8 the whole top navigation degrades to lists. When resizing smaller the faux column behind side navigation moves left off the page IE6 and FF Top

RE: [css-d] css validator confusion

2005-09-15 Thread Pringle, Ron
> Hi there, I'm havin a hard time understanding how the > warnings are on the > validator now, it wasnt like this just yesterday, if I was > looking correctly > as my sheets were valid with no warnings. today I've got a > ton of warnings > relating to background colors and colors on elements

[css-d] Newbie probs with css layout on IE

2005-09-15 Thread David Agnew
I'm attempting to re-design a website using CSS layout. It looks fine in Safari, Opera (Mac) and FireFox (Mac/PC), but not IE (Mac/PC). I've identified 4 rendering issues, I'll mention the most glaring 2 here. No doubt my issues have been addressed in this list, but i've done a bunch of reading, a

Re: [css-d] Problem with printing in IE6

2005-09-15 Thread Paul Debban
On 9/15/05, Chris Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > https://www.higheredjobs.com/products/ You could use your (new) print stylesheet to dump the float on #mainContent or pick another method to contain your floats in #mainContent. While you are creating your print stylesheet, you may want to hide

Re: [css-d] border disapearing

2005-09-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Neal Watkins wrote: http://www.gizmoproject.com/index2.html in IE (oh yeah) the border disapearing after i added the "new features" absolutrly positioned link - - - it is caused by the float of the text to the right. anybody know any fix? #hometopborder {width: 671px;} ...will act as a 'hasL

[css-d] css validator confusion

2005-09-15 Thread cFA
Hi there, I'm havin a hard time understanding how the warnings are on the validator now, it wasnt like this just yesterday, if I was looking correctly as my sheets were valid with no warnings. today I've got a ton of warnings relating to background colors and colors on elements. Here is a simple

[css-d] variable width left column, left+right column tops line up

2005-09-15 Thread CJ Larson
I know this is possible with tables pretty easily, but I'm clueless as where to start with CSS. I have some variable-width and -height images that need to go in a left hand column, and a set of bullets to go in a right column. The bullet lists line up with each image, so they also need to line *u

[css-d] Problem with printing in IE6

2005-09-15 Thread Chris Long
Hello all. I've got a baffling little problem here and I'm hoping someone can help me out. When you try to print a page in IE6 that would take up more than one sheet of paper, IE breaks off the first page directly under the navigation bar, and begins the content at the start of the second piece

Re: [css-d] Need Help with problem using floats Easy Clearing method - Take 2

2005-09-15 Thread Rob Cochrane
JF Simard wrote: Mmmm...and what about this page? http://netdiver.net/x_editorials/ Pages identical in FF and Opera8 All seems fine Rob __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List

Re[2]: [css-d] Need Help with problem using floats Easy Clearing method - Take 2

2005-09-15 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 15, 2005, 3:49:31 PM, JF Simard wrote: > Mmmm...and what about this page? > http://netdiver.net/x_editorials/ You're right: float uncontained. Background ends after "/ Brain bytes". Sorry... Steve -- http://mrclay.org/ : http://frenchhorns.mrclay.org/ __

Re: [css-d] Pre-Launch Site check

2005-09-15 Thread Rob Cochrane
Tanya Renne wrote: Unveiling tonight - launching tomorrow ... http://www.orchidsuites.net/asq509/ Hello Tanya, Opera v8 the whole top navigation degrades to lists. When resizing smaller the faux column behind side navigation moves left off the page IE6 and FF Top nav is broken by wrapping

Re: [css-d] Need Help with problem using floats Easy Clearing method - Take 2

2005-09-15 Thread JF Simard
Mmmm...and what about this page? http://netdiver.net/x_editorials/ I have Opera 8.02 (7680) on Win2k and the bottoms of these pages: http://netdiver.net/toolbox/bookshelves/bk_05.php http://netdiver.net/interviews/ look identical to the bottoms of these: http://netdiver.net/newsarchive/0

Re: [css-d] Pre-Launch Site check

2005-09-15 Thread Scott Glasgow
Tanya Renne wrote: Unveiling tonight - launching tomorrow ... http://www.orchidsuites.net/asq509/ ... I'd like to normalize the unit of measure for example. if you care to login as bambam/bambam and click on "my page" - TIA, -Tanya <<::SNIP::>> Hmm, launching tomorrow, eh? Might want to rec

Re: [css-d] Background property inherits backwards?

2005-09-15 Thread Rob Cochrane
rhett crowe wrote: Page: http://www.fcs.uga.edu/ext/housing/slides.php CSS: is in head of page, rest is http://www.fcs.uga.edu/ext/css/main.css Hi, First off id can only be used once per page you have repeated id="leftcolbox" and id="leftcol' also midcol. Once the HTML validates it may

Re: [css-d] Need Help with problem using floats Easy Clearing method - Take 2

2005-09-15 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 15, 2005, 12:50:56 PM, JF Simard wrote: > It seems that Opera 8 does not clear the main floated content in certain I have Opera 8.02 (7680) on Win2k and the bottoms of these pages: > http://netdiver.net/toolbox/bookshelves/bk_05.php > http://netdiver.net/interviews/ look iden

[css-d] Printing resized text

2005-09-15 Thread Ben Curtis
It seems that only in very few places on the web can I resize my text, then print, and have the printed text respect the new size I've chosen. I do this often, because most pages print edge to edge, which is hard to read, so I print 2-up (two shrunken pages, side-by-side and rotated, on o

[css-d] border disapearing

2005-09-15 Thread Neal Watkins
http://www.gizmoproject.com/index2.html in IE (oh yeah) the border disapearing after i added the "new features" absolutrly positioned link - - - it is caused by the float of the text to the right. anybody know any fix? thanks Neal

[css-d] Background property inherits backwards?

2005-09-15 Thread rhett crowe
Hey Everybody, I have a page with 2 floated columns created with divs, in a container div, nested in another main div. When I close the container div and then put an , the background properties of the show up in the columns in the div above. (The bullet list should not have any background pro

[css-d] Need Help with problem using floats Easy Clearing method - Take 2

2005-09-15 Thread JF Simard
Hi all, I posted this message on tuesday without success so I'm trying again. == I am having this problem I can't figure out. We just redid our site full css using floats all around and the clearfix method to clear them. It seems that Opera 8 does not cl

Re: [css-d] Opera and IE, each having different problems

2005-09-15 Thread David Laakso
ugo pozo wrote: URL: http://www.cityofdis.org/signo CSS: http://www.cityofdis.org/signo/brushed/general.css XP_SP2 IE/FF/Opera Ugo, Well, I feel like a total idiot because I see none of these horrendous problems you write about. I gotta' tell you though that I hate the 62.5% font-size,

[css-d] css scroll form problem

2005-09-15 Thread ross
Hello, I have a form inside a div and I was wondering if there is a way to retain the position of the scoller on submission of a page? Maybe a combination of Javascript and CSS?? R. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.

Re: [css-d] div horizontal centering in Moz

2005-09-15 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 15, 2005, 9:49:36 AM, shlomi asaf wrote: > why moz doesnt support text-align:center All major browsers support text-align [1]. The behavior you're expecting (that it affect block elements like DIV) was a bug in IE5.x (retained in IE6 Quirks mode). To center block elements, se

Re: [css-d] Gaps Between List Items in IE

2005-09-15 Thread Scot Schlinger
Justin, I think I have an answer (might not be the best as I am learning also) as I was helped recently with related problems by Georg. It seems in ie6 there is a 'hasLayout' mechanism that has to be triggered which can be solved without a hack as css compliant browsers already deal with in the

Re: [css-d] div horizontal centering in Moz

2005-09-15 Thread Kristina Floyd
shlomi asaf wrote: > http://www.dogma.co.il/shlomi/Css/ > > here is the sketch of the site > http://www.dogma.co.il/shlomi/Css/images/migvan.gif Try adding a containing div around everything eg; [rest of code here] body { text-align: center; } #container { margin: 0 auto; } the a

[css-d] Weird IE5 Mac bug...

2005-09-15 Thread Thierry Koblentz
"Test case" (IE5 Mac OS9/X): http://www.tjkdesign.com/eStore/macbug.asp This is about image elements (not background images). As explained on the page below, the long image (the one that says betterfly.com) comes on top of the logo *and* the search form, but it is still possible to access both ele

Re: [css-d] Image Replacement - IE z-index problem

2005-09-15 Thread Martin Petrov
Thank you Scot, but if you hide the text wrapped between with "display:none" then it doesn't appear when you browse with images turned off. Now with " z-index: -1" the text stays under the background of #Content, but if you turn the images off then it is visible because the background is off too.

Re: [css-d] div horizontal centering in Moz

2005-09-15 Thread Kristina Floyd
ahhh i see (I just re-read my post and it was a bit abrupt, that was unintentional, I'm really busy at work and I just typed it as I thought it - mental note to re-read emails before clicking send!) Do you have a live example we can look at? Have you stripped everything out? What are you tr

[css-d] div horizontal centering in Moz

2005-09-15 Thread shlomi asaf
Hi buddies :) Wassap? why in moz this code doesnt work, and only in IE it does? .body{ height:90%; width:100%; text-align:center } IE Moz why moz doesnt support text-align:center, but recive tag? thanks! Neo __ css-d

Re: [css-d] Firefox Background Image No Show

2005-09-15 Thread Scott Moore
Ingo and Roger, thanks for taking a look. Ingo, I removed overflow: hidden from #nav and #nav a and it appears to have solved the problem on both the PC and Mac versions of Firefox. I didn't test the 1.5beta though, but you can find the new page here: http://highlandworldwide.com/staging/in

RE: [css-d] Opera and IE, each having different problems

2005-09-15 Thread CJ Larson
In my IE, I actually have both the header *and* footer areas over the scrollbar. I'm not sure if you were getting this additional frustration or not. IE Version: 6.0.2900 SP2 -Original Message- URL: http://www.cityofdis.org/signo Question (finally!): how can I get the size of the pageH

[css-d] Gaps Between List Items in IE

2005-09-15 Thread jdlist
Hello List, I don't have access to a server to post an HTML file, but if someone could look at the code below, and please tell me why in IE6 (pc) I have extra vertical space between my elements. In Firefox, it looks fine. The odd thing is that if I put a 1px border on the , the gap disappears

RE: [css-d] Variation on "off-site" links - thanks

2005-09-15 Thread CJ Larson
I'm not sure if you're still looking for comments, so ignore this if you're already good to go. :) In FireFox: I see a graphic on every link except the "inserted graphic" lines, where I don't see the graphic on either "inserted" bullet. In ie: I see a graphic on the very first line and all 4 bul

Re: [css-d] Pre-Launch Site check orchidsuites.net

2005-09-15 Thread Felix Miata
Tanya Renne wrote: > Unveiling tonight - launching tomorrow ... Then today should be a very busy day. Visual accessibility is awful. > http://www.orchidsuites.net/asq509/ > ... I'd like to normalize the unit of measure for example. > if you care to login as bambam/bambam and click on "my pa

Re[3]: [css-d] Compliant Browser displaying "upgrade browser message"

2005-09-15 Thread Steve Clay
> Thursday, September 15, 2005, 7:33:59 AM, Bob Easton wrote: >> 1) the display:none technique is very poor form. It hides information >> from exactly the audience who needs it, screen reader users. OK, I guess you were referring to general use of the technique. Agreed, sorry! Steve __

Re: [work] [css-d] Pre-Launch Site check

2005-09-15 Thread Hershel Robinson
Tanya Renne wrote: > Unveiling tonight - launching tomorrow ... > > http://www.orchidsuites.net/asq509/ http://www.orchidsuites.net/asq509/index.php?display=OrganizationDetails&i=2&aboutus=Y&pid=212 and I quote: ASQ 509 is the best damn section in the whole country. You are launching this tomo

Re[2]: [css-d] Compliant Browser displaying "upgrade browser message"

2005-09-15 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 15, 2005, 7:33:59 AM, Bob Easton wrote: > 1) the display:none technique is very poor form. It hides information > from exactly the audience who needs it, screen reader users. While I agree the upgrade notice days are happily over, why would you want screen reader users hearing

[css-d] Pre-Launch Site check

2005-09-15 Thread Tanya Renne
Unveiling tonight - launching tomorrow ... http://www.orchidsuites.net/asq509/ ... I'd like to normalize the unit of measure for example. if you care to login as bambam/bambam and click on "my page" - TIA, -Tanya __ css-discus

Re: [css-d] Compliant Browser displaying "upgrade browser message"

2005-09-15 Thread Bob Easton
Craddock, Melissa wrote: The email excerpt below was sent today from a user. We are using the WASP Invisible Object Method to display the "Upgrade Note". ... Two points: 1) the display:none technique is very poor form. It hides information from exactly the audience who needs it, screen reader

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please

2005-09-15 Thread Peter Jennings
This is a bit off topic for a CSS forum. I picked one of your images, the Californian Poppy, and opened it in Photoshop. On the site it's 29896 bytes. If I save it for web and chose medium quality (30) that comes down to 5057 bytes. IMHO quality 30 is virtually indistinguishable from the original

Re: [css-d] Opera and IE, each having different problems

2005-09-15 Thread David Laakso
ugo pozo wrote: URL: http://www.cityofdis.org/signo CSS: http://www.cityofdis.org/signo/brushed/general.css XP_SP2 IE/FF/Opera Ugo, Well, I feel like a total idiot because I see none of these horrendous problems you write about. I gotta' tell you though that I hate the 62.5% font-size, co

RE: [css-d] Site Check - Lice Control

2005-09-15 Thread Alan Wood
I hope you don't mind some scientific input. Scientific names such as Pediculus capitis, Pediculus humanus and Pthirus pubis should be in italics. Alan Wood http://www.alanwood.net (Unicode, special characters, pesticide names) --- Adam wrote: > > With some great help