Re: [css-d] site check: bayone tech article page(s) in IE6/WINNT or 2K

2006-03-15 Thread francky
francky wrote: >>[...] >> I just saw the jpg-compression with 25% is enough, first bringing back to 256 colors is taking even some more bytes. See new compressed jpg . This one is 6853 bytes instea

[css-d] (no subject)Michael Larocque

2006-03-15 Thread Bruno Fassino
Georg wrote: > Does choice of 'font-family' make any difference? I just tried and yes, the "gaps" are font-family dependent, as expected since different fonts may have different heights for descenders/ascenders... Of course the difference is small [1] (used a big font-size, in px on purpose

Re: [css-d] (no subject)Michael Larocque

2006-03-15 Thread Christian Heilmann
Can someone change the subject to something that is not totally random? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ

Re: [css-d] Floating fieldsets for multi-column forms

2006-03-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
>>> http://indigopear.com/Clients/CollabMed/adminForm_template.html >> Try adding a 'hasLayout' trigger... #contentPanel {height: 100%;} > That helps a lot! I've read the hasLayout info a couple of times > and it just didn't make sense to me. Time to look at it again and > hope my eyes don't

[css-d] Mozilla - limited hover area on linked image

2006-03-15 Thread WV Mike
Greetings, I am not sure if this is a CSS issue or not. The following page: http://mbreiding.us/2006/ERT_2006/fl/parks_hikes/mana_springs/ has two linked images at top-left and top-right. When mousing the image the hover hand does not appear until well into the field of the image. A similar pag

Re: [css-d] Mozilla - limited hover area on linked image

2006-03-15 Thread Christian Heilmann
> Greetings, > I am not sure if this is a CSS issue or not. > > The following page: > http://mbreiding.us/2006/ERT_2006/fl/parks_hikes/mana_springs/ > has two linked images at top-left and top-right. > When mousing the image the hover hand does not appear until well into the > field of the image.

Re: [css-d] Mozilla - limited hover area on linked image

2006-03-15 Thread Ingo Chao
WV Mike wrote: ... > http://mbreiding.us/2006/ERT_2006/fl/parks_hikes/mana_springs/ > has two linked images at top-left and top-right. > When mousing the image the hover hand does not appear until well into the > field of the image. > > A similar page does not exhibit this behavior: > http://mbre

Re: [css-d] gaps below images, [was] (no subject)Michael Larocque

2006-03-15 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Mar 15, 2006, at 7:47 PM, Bruno Fassino wrote: >> Does choice of 'font-family' make any difference? > > I just tried and yes, the "gaps" are font-family dependent, as > expected > since different fonts may have different heights for > descenders/ascenders... Of course the difference is sm

Re: [css-d] Mozilla - limited hover area on linked image

2006-03-15 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
>> When mousing the image the hover hand does not appear until well into >> the >> field of the image. > > Try floating the links (and display them as block) instead of the > images. That might fix it. > > -- > Chris Heilmann FWIW, floating them causes them to display as block anyway, so there's n

Re: [css-d] Opera, negative margins, positioning and z-indexes problem

2006-03-15 Thread James Smith
http://www.ceridian.co.uk Georg wrote: >Page didn't look functional on latest reload in Firefox on win2K-pro. Hi Georg, I have just found an "old" machine to test with Win2K-pro - again it works fine in Firefox for me - no overlapping of images, and dropdowns work fine, so I'm still not sure w

Re: [css-d] gaps below images, [was] (no subject)Michael Larocque

2006-03-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Bruno Fassino wrote: > http://www.brunildo.org/test/ImgInBox.html > And line-height makes a difference as well, adding or subtracting > extra space (except in IE, but that's a bug.) So I thought initially, when testing on the original page[1]. That's why a {font-size: 1px; line-height: 0;} on th

[css-d] Help needed

2006-03-15 Thread nouhad
Hello again, I'm having a few problems First of 1) Is there a practical way in which i can center my text divs within a div within without doing the whole 'enter value, check if value centers text' process 2) How would I go about coding the 'showcase' div class, the way i have done it, paddings ove

Re: [css-d] site check: bayone tech article page(s) in IE6/WINNT or 2K

2006-03-15 Thread ~davidLaakso
Peter Hyde-Smith wrote: > 03/14/2006 > > Okay, my eyes are going buggy, > > http://www.baywerks.net/bayonetags/tag50118.20060223/B150118nucleationstudy.html > > Finally, I'd appreciate some design suggestions off-list for what to do with > the ugly, but necessary nav > > Peter > Put the nav un

Re: [css-d] site check: bayone tech article page(s) in IE6/WINNT or 2K

2006-03-15 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Peter Hyde-Smith wrote: > http://www.baywerks.net/bayonetags/tag50118.20060223/B150118nucleationstudy.html > http://www.baywerks.net/bayonetags/tag50118.20060223/Photolink.50118.0828.1205051.html > http://www.baywerks.net/bayonetags/tag50118.20060223/B1PIB50118.html > > Appreciate feedback, especia

Re: [css-d] Mozilla - limited hover area on linked image

2006-03-15 Thread WV Mike
At 08:03 AM 3/15/2006 , you wrote: >With "conditional comment", I mean >these constructs in the head of a html file: >

Re: [css-d] gaps below images, [was] (no subject)Michael Larocque

2006-03-15 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Mar 15, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > So I thought initially, when testing on the original page[1]. > That's why > a {font-size: 1px; line-height: 0;} on the container (#header in that > case) can also be used as a "fix" when we don't have to take any real > text (put directly in

Re: [css-d] Help needed

2006-03-15 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
nouhad wrote: > Hello again, > I'm having a few problems > First of > 1) Is there a practical way in which i can center my text divs within > a div within without doing the whole 'enter value, check if value > centers text' process > 2) How would I go about coding the 'showcase' div class, the way

[css-d] inline lists with left or right borders applied to list items

2006-03-15 Thread Nick Cappadona
Hi Everyone, I'm having some trouble with IE6 and inline lists. The problem occurs when I apply a right or left border to an individual list item. Actually, this alone does not cause the unexpected behavior, but if a list item happens to span across two lines, IE will display the right borde

Re: [css-d] gaps below images, [was] (no subject)Michael Larocque

2006-03-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > That {font-size: 1px; line-height: 0;} was once advocated, a very > long time ago, in the early days of this list. But it is full of > problems, as you make you layout dependent on font- sizes. Something > that is not much under control of the stylesheet author. I

[css-d] Bottom margin on page, can't figure out how to get rid of it

2006-03-15 Thread Tina Vance
I'm creating a website and cannot get past this one little problem: on Mozilla, Safari and every other browser *except* MS Internet Explorer, there is a bottom margin on the content section of the page. I've validated the stylesheet, I've validated the html, both come up clean. I cannot, for th

Re: [css-d] gaps below images, [was] (no subject)Michael Larocque

2006-03-15 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > >> That {font-size: 1px; line-height: 0;} was once advocated, a very >> long time ago, in the early days of this list. But it is full of >> problems, as you make you layout dependent on font- sizes. Something >> that is not much under cont

Re: [css-d] Bottom margin on page, can't figure out how to get rid of it

2006-03-15 Thread cj
On 3/15/06, Tina Vance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The url for the site is http://www.refreshcleveland.org. i think it might have something to do with where you apply clearfix. deleting that css got rid of the gap on my firefox.

[css-d] Border patrol

2006-03-15 Thread dsleep
Hi, I have a test page at www.fremontfbc.com\myindex.html The css is at www.fremontfbc.com\mywestciv.css I've placed a border around #header and #services, neither one of which enclose the area I thought would be covered. A second question is that I want the calendar image all the way to the rig

Re: [css-d] Bottom margin on page, can't figure out how to get rid of it

2006-03-15 Thread Ingo Chao
Tina Vance wrote: > I'm creating a website and cannot get past this one little problem: on > Mozilla, Safari and every other browser *except* MS Internet Explorer, > there is a bottom margin on the content section of the page. I've > validated the stylesheet, I've validated the html, both come u

Re: [css-d] Bottom margin on page, can't figure out how to get rid of it

2006-03-15 Thread Tina Vance
And another valuable lesson about wholesale application of hacks is learned. ;) All of the clearfixes were deleted, all of the problems were solved. Thank you very much for your help! Thanks, Tina Vance cj wrote: > On 3/15/06, Tina Vance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The url for the site

[css-d] Sidebar being pushed down in IE6

2006-03-15 Thread Julie Harpring
I would greatly appreciate any help with the the problem below. We just switched our main site pages to XHTML and CSS, but now we have realized a problem that occurs only on SOME computers using IE6. In Firefox, Safari, and IE6 on my computer, the sidebar to the left of the main content, which inc

Re: [css-d] Bottom margin on page, can't figure out how to get rid of it

2006-03-15 Thread Ingo Chao
Tina Vance wrote: > And another valuable lesson about wholesale application of hacks is > learned. ;) All of the clearfixes were deleted, all of the problems were > solved. Thank you very much for your help! > > cj wrote: >> On 3/15/06, Tina Vance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> The url for

[css-d] Font Families - Sizing Comparison Chart

2006-03-15 Thread susan
I'm starting to re-do a big site that currently has all the font sizing in pixels, changing to em and/or percentage font sizes. What started as a discussion with a print designer on the relative sizes of print (points) to web font sizing, as well as to get my head around what I was doing w

[css-d] Site review request

2006-03-15 Thread KE Bracken
Hello - I am new to the list and a relative newbie to CSS - I'm at the tail end of my first "paid" gig for the layout of a site and would appreciate feedback. There are 3 stylesheets involved. The big problem(s) I had (and still have) regard tables and form elements. I wanted to avoid tables for

Re: [css-d] IE Double Float Alternatives

2006-03-15 Thread David Hucklesby
Hi Gretchen, You asked: > I have run into the IE double float bug on certain pages of my site. > > Pages that have the bug: > http://girlscantwhat.com/content/section/5/29/ > http://girlscantwhat.com/content/section/6/30/ > http://girlscantwhat.com/content/category/6/21/83/ > ... > So my qu

Re: [css-d] Font Families - Sizing Comparison Chart

2006-03-15 Thread ~davidLaakso
susan wrote: > I'm starting to re-do a big site that currently has all the font > sizing in pixels, changing to em and/or percentage font sizes. > Here's the link: > http://www.odaca.org/0_testFonts/FontEx_All.htm > > Thanks - Susan > > > While my personal interests are very much involved wit

Re: [css-d] Vertically align a div when height is dynamic

2006-03-15 Thread Richard Grevers
On 3/11/06, Aaron Seelye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry about the lack of details, I'll try to do better. I'm looking at > aligning the div in relation to the viewport. > http://template006.pixelsoftfilms.com/ is what I'm working on, I'd like the > actual content to be in the middle of the vie

Re: [css-d] Floating fieldsets for multi-column forms

2006-03-15 Thread David Hucklesby
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: http://indigopear.com/Clients/CollabMed/adminForm_template.html > >>> Try adding a 'hasLayout' trigger... #contentPanel {height: 100%;} > Ann Adamcik responded: >> That helps a lot! I've read the hasLayout info a couple of times >> and it just did

[css-d] Parallel texts

2006-03-15 Thread Lars Bruzelius
For a transcription that I am doing, I need syncronised parallel texts with a dividing line running down the gutter. If I understand the CSS box model correctly, the following CSS would do the trick: .l {float: left; width: 49.1%; padding-right: 0.1%} .r {float: right; width: 49.1%; padding-lef

[css-d] Lists in menus and elsewhere on the same page

2006-03-15 Thread Ian Piper
Hi all, I'm getting in a knot over list items. I am using one for a horizontal menu and that is working fine. However, I want also to have a regular unordered list on one of my pages and it is not working. The menu ul and li styles are like this: ul { border-top: 1px solid #00;

Re: [css-d] Parallel texts

2006-03-15 Thread Ed Seehouse
On 3/15/06, Lars Bruzelius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For a transcription that I am doing, I need syncronised parallel > texts with a dividing line running down the gutter. If I understand > the CSS box model correctly, the following CSS would do the trick: > > > .l {float: left; width: 49.1%; p

[css-d] Website Skeleton - Restructure

2006-03-15 Thread trystano
Hi all, I have been given the task of re-designing a website that was done in tables and am currently in the process of putting the Skeleton in place with DIVs. I have done this after going through the existing website and identifing what section belongs in a DIV etc. Can you please go over it

[css-d] Rollover buttons in CSS

2006-03-15 Thread Lee Sommerville
Hi, Can anyone please look at www.liquid3.com/liquid3 for me and offer assistance. Dependant on your browser you will more than likely see positioning errors and will no doubt note a lack of Doctype in my HTML - i have remedied these on my mac but have not yet uploaded the site with the changes s

[css-d] Rollover buttons in CSS

2006-03-15 Thread Lee Sommerville
Hi, Can anyone please look at www.liquid3.com/liquid3 for me and offer assistance. Dependant on your browser you will more than likely see positioning errors and will no doubt note a lack of Doctype in my HTML - i have remedied these on my mac but have not yet uploaded the site with the changes s

Re: [css-d] Parallel texts

2006-03-15 Thread Pringle, Ron
Lars wrote: > For a transcription that I am doing, I need syncronised parallel > texts with a dividing line running down the gutter. If I understand > the CSS box model correctly, the following CSS would do the trick: > > This works as expected in Amaya 9.4 and Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 >

[css-d] Z-INDEX Problems in IE

2006-03-15 Thread Keith Kaiser
My drop down menus appear just fine in everything but IE. In IE they look OK until you try to select one of the items below the DIV they appear in. I have the Z-INDEX set to 1 for IE and 500 for everything else, anything less than 1 for example -1 they don't appear at all. Please look at kaiserkla

Re: [css-d] Lists in menus and elsewhere on the same page

2006-03-15 Thread Pringle, Ron
Ian- Disregard my private email to you. I sent it by accident before fully realizing the problem. The information below will sort you out. Ian wrote: > I'm getting in a knot over list items. I am using one for a > horizontal menu and that is working fine. However, I want also to > have a

Re: [css-d] Border patrol

2006-03-15 Thread francky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Hi, > >I have a test page at www.fremontfbc.com\myindex.html >The css is at www.fremontfbc.com\mywestciv.css >[...] > > Hi Dennis, Border patrol? Perhaps first some *Server Patrol*: both links aren't working at this moment... Greetings, francky ___

[css-d] Nav Problem

2006-03-15 Thread Les Mizzell
Maybe I've just been awake too many hours, but I can't find this http://www.takachroe.com/index.cfm Look at the nav. It's not that compliated and works perfect in I.E., but in Netscape and Firefox, there's problems selecting the last two links. It's just a list: Home About Us

[css-d] Floats rising (was Re: Parallel texts)

2006-03-15 Thread atnbueno
Hello, all. Just a tiny detail, because I tripped with it some time ago: > [...] Floats are supposed to "rise" up as far as they can. [...] Actually, "A floating element's top may not be higher than the top of any earlier floating or block-level element", according to spec [ http://www.w3.org/T

Re: [css-d] Border patrol

2006-03-15 Thread dsleep
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I have a test page at www.fremontfbc.com\myindex.html >>The css is at www.fremontfbc.com\mywestciv.css >>[...] >> >> > Hi Dennis, > Border patrol? Perhaps first some *Server Patrol*: both links aren't > working at this moment... > > Greetings, > francky I ju

Re: [css-d] Nav Problem

2006-03-15 Thread Pringle, Ron
Les wrote: > Maybe I've just been awake too many hours, but I can't find this > > http://www.takachroe.com/index.cfm > > > Look at the nav. It's not that compliated and works perfect > in I.E., but > in Netscape and Firefox, there's problems selecting the last > two links. > > It's just

Re: [css-d] Sidebar being pushed down in IE6

2006-03-15 Thread Ingo Chao
Julie Harpring wrote: > I would greatly appreciate any help with the the problem below. > > We just switched our main site pages to XHTML and CSS, but now we have > realized a problem that occurs only on SOME computers using IE6. In Firefox, > Safari, and IE6 on my computer, the sidebar to the lef

[css-d] Contextual selector plus explicit class

2006-03-15 Thread James Eaton
What are the rules regarding contextual selectors used in combination with explicit class declarations? I'm trying to use something like the following, but a class set in the element has no effect (in Firefox and IE6): table.stats { border-collapse: collapse; } .stats th { padding: 3px

Re: [css-d] Nav Problem

2006-03-15 Thread atnbueno
Hello, Les. > Maybe I've just been awake too many hours, but I can't find this > http://www.takachroe.com/index.cfm > Look at the nav. It's not that compliated and works perfect in I.E., but > in Netscape and Firefox, there's problems selecting the last two links. You've got an overlapping bl

Re: [css-d] Sidebar being pushed down in IE6

2006-03-15 Thread Pringle, Ron
Ingo wrote: Julie Harpring wrote: > > I would greatly appreciate any help with the the problem below. > > Here's the URL: http://gradschool.missouri.edu/financial/index.htm > > > > On a few computers using IE6 in our office, though, the > sidebar is pushed > > down (still floated to the left,

[css-d] IE 6.0 Crashes browser on text resize

2006-03-15 Thread Ben Logan
Hi follks I am not sure if this is a common problem or not, I have tried Googling it but with limited success! I have the following page which displays fine in Firefox 1.5 (I have opted to develop in Firefox first then address the majority of IE issues using a series of conditional comments

Re: [css-d] Parallel texts

2006-03-15 Thread francky
Ed Seehouse wrote: >On 3/15/06, Lars Bruzelius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>For a transcription that I am doing, I need syncronised parallel >>texts with a dividing line running down the gutter. If I understand >>the CSS box model correctly, the following CSS would do the trick: >> >> >>.l {

Re: [css-d] IE 6.0 Crashes browser on text resize

2006-03-15 Thread Pringle, Ron
Ben wrote: > Hi follks > > I am not sure if this is a common problem or not, I have > tried Googling it > but with limited success! > > I have the following page which displays fine in Firefox 1.5 > (I have opted > to develop in Firefox first then address the majority of IE > issues using a >

Re: [css-d] gaps below images, [was] (no subject)Michael Larocque

2006-03-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote: > What about IE, though? Even if you don't have any real text in the > element (which you won't, because then you wouldn't set the font size > to 1px to begin with), IE will expand boxes to hold potential text. > So if a user preference in IE overrides the 1px font-siz

Re: [css-d] Border patrol

2006-03-15 Thread francky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>Francky wrote: >> >>Hi Dennis, >>Border patrol? Perhaps first some *Server Patrol*: both links aren't >>working at this moment... >> >>Greetings, >>francky >> >> > >I just tried http://www.fremontfbc.com/myindex.html and it worked in Opera >and FireFox. I also tried

Re: [css-d] Floating fieldsets for multi-column forms

2006-03-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Hucklesby wrote: > Interestingly, the IE developer toolbar[1] includes a DOM inspector > that indicates if an element "hasLayout"! So-- it's a feature, not a > bug! :-D Well, I can't share the correspondence with a member of the IE-team, where he confirms that "'hasLayout' is a *buggy* fea

Re: [css-d] Sidebar being pushed down in IE6

2006-03-15 Thread Julie Harpring
Ingo wrote: "Maybe giving the columns a little more room to breathe with a negative 3px margin could be of help." Bless you, Ingo! I was seconds away from a meltdown when I saw your message. Adding the negative 3px worked perfectly. And I'll keep the other tips in mind, too. Thanks so much, Julie

[css-d] Outer not expanding to contain Floating 's

2006-03-15 Thread trystano
Hi all, I am creating a website in CSS (and asp.net) and have started to create the skeleton of the site in CSS and am starting to get the positions together using 's. But I have a problem. The outer div (inner_container) is not expanding to the height that is used up by the floating 's tha

Re: [css-d] Outer not expanding to contain Floating 's

2006-03-15 Thread Valette Ragland
On 3/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The outer div (inner_container) is not expanding to the height that is used > up by the > floating 's that it is containing. This is actually acting as it should [1].Try adding a div to clear the floats. [1] http://www.complexspiral.com/

Re: [css-d] Sidebar being pushed down in IE6

2006-03-15 Thread ~davidLaakso
Julie Harpring wrote: > Ingo wrote: > "Maybe giving the columns a little more room to breathe with a > negative 3px margin could be of help." > > Bless you, Ingo! I was seconds away from a meltdown when I saw your > message. Adding the negative 3px worked perfectly. And I'll keep the > other tips i

Re: [css-d] Outer not expanding to contain Floating 's

2006-03-15 Thread Ed Seehouse
On 3/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am creating a website in CSS (and asp.net) and have started to create the > skeleton > of the site in CSS and am starting to get the positions together using > 's. > But I have a problem. The outer div (inner_container)

Re: [css-d] Sidebar being pushed down in IE6

2006-03-15 Thread Julie Harpring
Ron said: "I was able to duplicate the erroneous display on this page http://gradschool.missouri.edu/downloads/ and with my font size set to largest in IE. At that size, Academic Research & Info appears to expand beyond its intended boundaries, probably causing the drop. ... If someone else could p

Re: [css-d] Border patrol

2006-03-15 Thread francky
francky wrote: > Yes, I can see them now! Should have been a short tmp-down of the > server or a provider-dip on my side or something... Nope: when I refreshed the not-working link I discovered the reason (still did not work!): a backslash-typo in the first posted link! ;-) Now everybody can g

Re: [css-d] Contextual selector plus explicit class

2006-03-15 Thread Adam Kuehn
James Eaton wrote: >What are the rules regarding contextual selectors used in combination with >explicit class declarations? I'm trying to use something like the >following, but a class set in the element has no effect (in Firefox >and IE6): > >.stats td { > padding: 2px; > } >.calign { > t

Re: [css-d] Sidebar being pushed down in IE6

2006-03-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Julie Harpring wrote: > http://gradschool.missouri.edu/downloads/ and > http://gradschool.missouri.edu/resources/going.htm A couple of solutions... Adding a permanent restriction... #sidebar {overflow-x: hidden;} ...will keep the sidebar in place in IE by hiding the overshooting part of any ov

Re: [css-d] Border patrol

2006-03-15 Thread ~davidLaakso
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >>> I have a test page at www.fremontfbc.com\myindex.html >>> The css is at www.fremontfbc.com\mywestciv.css >>> [...] >>> >> Hi Dennis, >> Border patrol? Perhaps first some *Server Patrol*: both links aren't >> working at this

Re: [css-d] Opera, negative margins, positioning and z-indexes problem

2006-03-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
James Smith wrote: > http://www.ceridian.co.uk > Hi Georg, I have just found an "old" machine to test with Win2K-pro - > again it works fine in Firefox for me - no overlapping of images, > and dropdowns work fine, so I'm still not sure why this is happening > for you... I changed the min-font h