Re: [css-d] New PNG drop shadows method at PIE

2006-05-02 Thread Big John
> http://positioniseverything.net/articles/dropshadows.html francky wrote: > I see the idth-itches are repaired in the meantime. :-) Somehow I forgot. So much testing... > * The html-validator wants the " " (line 144) canceled... That was added temporarily because IE was showing the bug where

[css-d] Tyson's Box (Is Broken!

2006-05-02 Thread Tyson Tate
I mentioned in another thread that I was going to try to whip up a custom border/custom corner box that uses only one div without JavaScript. I've succeeded, but only in Safari, as of yet. I was planning on using IE's "expression" CSS property to make up for the lack of :after and :before s

Re: [css-d] Print style sheet?

2006-05-02 Thread Cem Meric
> I've never used a print style sheet before, but I'm wondering if I > could use one now. I'd like each month to print out on a separate > sheet of paper if someone tries to print it from the web. Any ideas: Hi Erin, just add this to your css code. .clmonth { page-break-after: always; } Sadly,

Re: [css-d] Hover problem in Opera 8.5

2006-05-02 Thread Bill Moseley
I noticed a few people looked at this in my logs. Did anyone see the same behavior? Any ideas about the problem? On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 06:15:48AM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: > http://hank.org/demos/banner.html > http://hank.org/demos/banner.css > > In Opera 8.5/Linux when I mouse int

Re: [css-d] Design question

2006-05-02 Thread Cem Meric
> ? > Cem, > > It's related to CSS because I'm asking how designers use it to create site > variation. One of the responses earlier on in the thread was a CSS idea > where BODY was given a CLASS name to vary the page's width. > As I said in the post, it's probably not an easy question to answer.

Re: [css-d] Odd Firefox Bugs

2006-05-02 Thread bj
>I've found some odd CSS bugs in Firefox that cause some rendering >differences between MacOS X and Windows XP. I've posted a simplified >test case here: > > > >Any comments/suggestions before I submit this to the Firefox's Bugzilla? > >-Tyson FF 1

Re: [css-d] 5 column CSS box

2006-05-02 Thread Cem Meric
> I am looking for something like this: > > > Text > Text > Text > Text > Text > > _ _ _ _ _ > |__Box 1 _||__Box 2 _| |__Box 3 _| |__Box 4 _| |__Box 5 _| > here are some quick fixes ;) position: absolute; http://kalka

[css-d] Print style sheet?

2006-05-02 Thread Erin Spangler
I've never used a print style sheet before, but I'm wondering if I could use one now. I'd like each month to print out on a separate sheet of paper if someone tries to print it from the web. Any ideas: http://www.highland-bc.org/calendar.html Thanks, Erin Spangler _

Re: [css-d] Odd Firefox Bugs

2006-05-02 Thread Tyson Tate
On May 2, 2006, at 7:21 PM, francky wrote: [snip] > btw: you know the Liquid Corner/Border method (without javascript)? > See Playgarden 8.a liquidcorners/liquid-corners-playgarden-08a.htm>, and the new > examples Playgarden 9.a

Re: [css-d] Odd Firefox Bugs

2006-05-02 Thread francky
Els wrote: >Tyson Tate wrote: > > >>I've found some odd CSS bugs in Firefox that cause some >>rendering differences between MacOS X and Windows XP. I've >>posted a simplified test case here: >> >> >> >>Any comments/suggestions before I submit this to

Re: [css-d] Design question

2006-05-02 Thread Mark Fellowes
 Cem, It's related to CSS because I'm asking how designers use it to create site variation. One of the responses earlier on in the thread was a CSS idea where BODY was given a CLASS name to vary the page's width. As I said in the post, it's probably not an easy question to answer. I real

Re: [css-d] 5 column CSS box

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel Pape
The best way to do this would be to "float" each div inside your container. This will allow them to line up horizontally. The CSS may look like this. #Box1 { float: left; width: xxx; } #Box2 { float: left; width: xxx; } #Box3 { float: left; width: xxx; } #Box4 { float:

Re: [css-d] Reseting styles with the use of conditional comments

2006-05-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ingo Chao wrote: >> This is new to me, and I would appreciate some testing. >> http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/drcc/drcc.html > http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/drcc/drcc2.html Sure, it is working as intended. I use that CC construction on a few pages, but not for stylesheet-links. --- As long as

Re: [css-d] Opacity 1 in outerbox, and opacity .5 in innerbox?

2006-05-02 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On May 3, 2006, at 9:47 AM, francky wrote: > Simple question: I have a box, and another box inside. > The #outerbox must have an opacity for FF (css-3, yes), and the > #innerbox has to stay straight. Is this possible, or is this > against the > laws of css? > Almost forgotten: this is the testp

[css-d] 5 column CSS box

2006-05-02 Thread Brian Jones
Hi, I am trying to create a small 5 column CSS box that will render correctly across browsers. Also I would like to be able to adjust the widths of each box accordingly I am looking for something like this: Text Text Text Text Text _ _

[css-d] Opacity 1 in outerbox, and opacity .5 in innerbox?

2006-05-02 Thread francky
Hi all, Simple question: I have a box, and another box inside. The #outerbox must have an opacity for FF (css-3, yes), and the #innerbox has to stay straight. Is this possible, or is this against the laws of css? Almost forgotten: this is the testpage

Re: [css-d] problems with right-margin (ie 6)

2006-05-02 Thread Els
richard wrote: > hello! Hi :-) > i'm trying to make a layout where my left div is a fixed 160px > width, and the main div will be sized with all the rest > available width of the screen. in firefox 1.5 my css is > allright, but when i test it on windows ie 6 it doesn't > work... > this is the

Re: [css-d] problems with right-margin (ie 6)

2006-05-02 Thread Ed Seehouse
On 5/2/06, richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i'm trying to make a layout where my left div is a fixed 160px width, and the > main div will > be sized with all the rest available width of the screen. > in firefox 1.5 my css is allright, but when i test it on windows ie 6 it > doesn't work... F

Re: [css-d] Reseting styles with the use of conditional comments

2006-05-02 Thread CSS-D List
Ingo Chao wrote: > Guillaume wrote: >> I'm using an @import filter to fire my css... Now I would like to >> reset those styles for Ie 5.0 for example, to make sure he only has >> the text version and no styles at all... I thought throwing to this >> browser an empty style sheet through conditiona

Re: [css-d] Reseting styles with the use of conditional comments

2006-05-02 Thread Ingo Chao
Ingo Chao wrote: > > This is new to me, and I would appreciate some testing. > http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/drcc/drcc.html > > This one, at least, works for me in IE7, 6, 5.5 > and IE's parser seems to recover well from this. > Actually the styles were not chosen carefully. Here is another ex

[css-d] problems with right-margin (ie 6)

2006-05-02 Thread richard
hello! i'm trying to make a layout where my left div is a fixed 160px width, and the main div will be sized with all the rest available width of the screen. in firefox 1.5 my css is allright, but when i test it on windows ie 6 it doesn't work... this is the css: --- #esquerda {

Re: [css-d] Design question

2006-05-02 Thread Cem Meric
> > ?I'm curious how people create page sets for their sites ? What I mean, > is that most sites seem to have some variation from page to page. Not > variations in content but in layout. It's a tough question to answer no > doubt. My thoughts are that perhaps one maintains certain color > comb

Re: [css-d] Reseting styles with the use of conditional comments

2006-05-02 Thread Ingo Chao
Guillaume wrote: > I'm using an @import filter to fire my css... Now I would like to > reset those styles for Ie 5.0 for example, to make sure he only has > the text version and no styles at all... I thought throwing to this > browser an empty style sheet through conditional comments... But > appar

Re: [css-d] Question on mobiles again

2006-05-02 Thread Cem Meric
> Is it probable or reasonable to assume that elements that are marked > with 'display:none;' in the css are NOT loaded by the browsers? > > I've read - concerning css image preloaders - that today's browsers are > smart enough to leave out content in the html if it it set to > display:none; in t

[css-d] Aligning checkboxes with labels & creating vertical space IE v FF

2006-05-02 Thread Peter
Hi, I have a page that is causing me a little grief and hope that you can help me. I have HTML generated by php and styled by CSS. I have extracted an example of the HTML which may be found at www.kuroi.co.uk/testing/index.html. Basically, it works but the styling is slightly off in FF. In partic

Re: [css-d] Centered Thumbnails With Custom Borders

2006-05-02 Thread David Hucklesby
> On May 1, 2006, at 10:27 PM, Els wrote: > ... >> Here's a set I made recently, but it wasn't tested in Safari or >> Opera on Mac. >> http://locusmeus.com/test/thumbswithcaptionslistcentered.html > ... >> http://locusmeus.com/test/thumbswithcaptionscentered.html ~~~ On Mon, 1 May 2006

Re: [css-d] Odd Firefox Bugs

2006-05-02 Thread Els
Tyson Tate wrote: > I've found some odd CSS bugs in Firefox that cause some > rendering differences between MacOS X and Windows XP. I've > posted a simplified test case here: > > > > Any comments/suggestions before I submit this to the Firefox's > Bugz

Re: [css-d] Reseting styles with the use of conditional comments

2006-05-02 Thread Guillaume
Els > To make it work, you need to counter the styles from the previous stylesheets in lte50.css. You mean every single style has to be the same in lte50.css ? Can't I just then do a global reset from this last style sheet and kill all previous styles ? Something like: *{border:none; float:n

Re: [css-d] Reseting styles with the use of conditional comments

2006-05-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Guillaume wrote: > Now I would like to reset those styles for Ie 5.0 for example, to > make sure he only has the text version and no styles at all... I > thought throwing to this browser an empty style sheet through > conditional comments... But apparently it doesn't work this way... An empty sty

[css-d] Odd Firefox Bugs

2006-05-02 Thread Tyson Tate
I've found some odd CSS bugs in Firefox that cause some rendering differences between MacOS X and Windows XP. I've posted a simplified test case here: Any comments/suggestions before I submit this to the Firefox's Bugzilla? -Tyson __

Re: [css-d] Reseting styles with the use of conditional comments

2006-05-02 Thread Els
Guillaume wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm using an @import filter to fire my css... > Now I would like to reset those styles for Ie 5.0 for example, > to make sure he only has the text version and no styles at > all... > I thought throwing to this browser an empty style sheet through > conditional co

Re: [css-d] Reseting styles with the use of conditional comments

2006-05-02 Thread Dave Goodchild
Is that lte a typo in the actual code? You mention le above... On 02/05/06, Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'm using an @import filter to fire my css... > Now I would like to reset those styles for Ie 5.0 for example, to make > sure he only has the text version and no st

[css-d] Reseting styles with the use of conditional comments

2006-05-02 Thread Guillaume
Hi everyone, I'm using an @import filter to fire my css... Now I would like to reset those styles for Ie 5.0 for example, to make sure he only has the text version and no styles at all... I thought throwing to this browser an empty style sheet through conditional comments... But apparently it do

Re: [css-d] Design question

2006-05-02 Thread Dave Goodchild
There are many methods, as there are to any approach in css. One good way to have different layouts from the same stylesheet is to issue a class to the body attribute and then style the layout ids differently ie body.home #sidebar { width: 200px; } body.normal sidebar { width: 100px; } and so on

Re: [css-d] ID Use

2006-05-02 Thread Dave Goodchild
Why? An id is used to identify a unique element on each page (ie layout container) whereas a class is used to create an effect in many places. That is what they are for. On 02/05/06, Don Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just a simple question. > I use the same ID multiple times per page but t

[css-d] Question on mobiles again

2006-05-02 Thread Tobias Baldauf
Hi! First of all I'd like to thank the people who helped me getting started with CSS on mobile devices on this list. Thanks for your answers! Anyway, more questions came up: Is it probable or reasonable to assume that elements that are marked with 'display:none;' in the css are NOT loaded by the

[css-d] Design question

2006-05-02 Thread Mark Fellowes
I'm curious how people create page sets for their sites ? What I mean, is that most sites seem to have some variation from page to page. Not variations in content but in layout. It's a tough question to answer no doubt. My thoughts are that perhaps one maintains certain color combinations

Re: [css-d] ID Use

2006-05-02 Thread MarcLuzietti
It's not standards compliant, but it will work . . . for now. You can have multiple classes in a class attribute, so go ahead and change your duplicate ids to classes. For example: class="right blue important" id="firstParagraph" Where it will cause a problem now is if you use JavaScript and n

Re: [css-d] ID Use

2006-05-02 Thread Richard Anderson
ID should only be really used once per page. It is for unique items. There is more discussion on ID vs class on http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/selector.html and http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ClassesVsIds Cheers, Richard Don Miller wrote: > Just a simple question. I use the same ID multipl

[css-d] ID Use

2006-05-02 Thread Don Miller
Just a simple question. I use the same ID multiple times per page but the ID does the exact same thing in every case. As an example, I use it to modify the look or size of a navigation link. This appears to work in all browsers without any problems so is this a possible problem and should I fi

Re: [css-d] Simple (?) padding question

2006-05-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
antmanbee wrote: > How do I put space above the first piece of text when it's in a > container (layer)? > > It seems a bit clumsy simply to put in a row of carriage returns > above Of course. should not be used as "spacer". Margins and paddings are much more suitable for that. In a normal sce

Re: [css-d] Classes and markup

2006-05-02 Thread Mark Fellowes
Just wanted to say thank you to all who answered. The explanations and examples were very helpful. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2006 2:20 PM -07:00 To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Cc: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Classes and

[css-d] Testing

2006-05-02 Thread Terje Moe
Testing __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- ht

Re: [css-d] z-index and IE 6 - overlapping elements

2006-05-02 Thread Bostjan Kern
> > Using your example, I cut out as many of the positioned elements as > possible. For example you have the following structure for your > gallery : > > div.album <-- float:left and position:relative >a.albumLink

Re: [css-d] z-index and IE 6 - overlapping elements

2006-05-02 Thread Sam Partington
On 02/05/06, Bostjan Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (snipped my first attempt at a fix) > I tried the above solution, but the bottom element is still overlapping > the top and > > Any other ideas folks? Hmm odd! I don't know what is causing this behaviour. But before I posted my earlier r

Re: [css-d] Firefox/IE problem with forum system

2006-05-02 Thread David Rose
Michiel van der Blonk wrote: > If possible at all, the best suggestion you could possibly get is to not > use a phpBB forum. They are not very standards-friendly. If you want a > standards compliant forum, check out vanilla (http://www.getvanilla.com). > > I do realize that if you have existing d

Re: [css-d] Firefox/IE problem with forum system

2006-05-02 Thread Michiel van der Blonk
[..]Can anyone else see what is going wrong here? The development site is at http://winnetka.technicelixir.com/forums/index.php If possible at all, the best suggestion you could possibly get is to not use a phpBB forum. They are not very standards-friendly. If you want a standards compliant for

Re: [css-d] Simple (?) padding question

2006-05-02 Thread antmanbee
on 2/5/06 14:10, Gunlaug Sørtun at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > May I suggest that you don't put paddings on containers, but instead set > 'full width' on them and add suitable margins to content - paragraphs > and stuff. > That way you'll only have the width of borders (if there are any) that >

Re: [css-d] Classes and markup

2006-05-02 Thread CSS-D List
Mark Fellowes wrote: > I'm still having a hard time wrapping my mind around classes, in particular > how they relate to classes in markup. > So, I understand I can create a class like: > > .ptext{color: blue;} > > Then in the markup I can styple with that class. > > What I find confusing is

Re: [css-d] IE drops center and right column content below left

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel Pape
On 05 2, 06, at 10:16 PM, bj wrote: >> One more question, where is how to or tutorial on getting your >> mini site > >> logo to show up in the browser URL window? > > Are you talking about the favicon? If so, here's the url for > learning how to use them along with a cool tool for making them.

Re: [css-d] Classes and markup

2006-05-02 Thread Rob Freundlich
On Tuesday, May 02, 2006 9:49 AM [GMT+0100=CET],Mark Fellowes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I find confusing is the uses of classes as opposed to id's in > the markup. For example, I have a div for a right column. Would > creating a class for the section of that div in the markup make > sense

Re: [css-d] IE drops center and right column content below left column, again

2006-05-02 Thread bj
>One more question, where is how to or tutorial on getting your mini site >logo to show up in the browser URL window? Are you talking about the favicon? If so, here's the url for learning how to use them along with a cool tool for making them. enjoy! bj

Re: [css-d] Classes and markup

2006-05-02 Thread MarcLuzietti
Mark, CLASSes can be used on *multiple* elements, whereas an ID can only be used on one element per page. In addition, you can use multiple CLASSes on a single element, but only one ID. I *think* that the advantage an ID has over a CLASS is that the ID has a higher priority, so that if you hav

[css-d] Classes and markup

2006-05-02 Thread Mark Fellowes
I'm still having a hard time wrapping my mind around classes, in particular how they relate to classes in markup. So, I understand I can create a class like: .ptext{color: blue;} Then in the markup I can styple with that class. What I find confusing is the uses of classes as opposed to id's

Re: [css-d] Question:Background in IE[6]

2006-05-02 Thread Mark Fellowes
 Now I'm embarassed. Never thought to recheck the markup :) Sorry and thank you! Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2006 1:34 PM -07:00 To: Mark Fellowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CSS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] Question:Background in IE[6] .

Re: [css-d] Question:Background in IE[6]

2006-05-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Mark Fellowes wrote: > In my experiments to learn layout I've run into this problem twice. > As you'll see in my code, in the right column I've set the H1 to have a white > background > and the right column itself to have a purple. > In Firefox it displays almost correctly, in IE the purple doe

Re: [css-d] z-index and IE 6 - overlapping elements

2006-05-02 Thread Bostjan Kern
> > I shoud imagine its these two rules that is causing a bit of ambiguity : > > .album * > { > position: absolute; > z-index: 0; > } > > .albumSub > { > z-index: 100; > position: absolute; > /* other stuff */ > } > > I am guessing that the first rule is given a higher specificity, > however acco

Re: [css-d] Simple (?) padding question

2006-05-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
antmanbee wrote: >> I have the following code put on a simple layer: >> >> .box { >> padding: 10px 30px 30px; >> height: 500px; >> width: 465px; >> } >> >> this keeps the inserted text at a consistent distance from the box on the >> left hand side and the top (in Firefox etc). >> >>

[css-d] Question:Background in IE[6]

2006-05-02 Thread Mark Fellowes
In my experiments to learn layout I've run into this problem twice. As you'll see in my code, in the right column I've set the H1 to have a white background and the right column itself to have a purple. In Firefox it displays almost correctly, in IE the purple doesn's show through where the b

Re: [css-d] z-index and IE 6 - overlapping elements

2006-05-02 Thread Sam Partington
I shoud imagine its these two rules that is causing a bit of ambiguity : .album * { position: absolute; z-index: 0; } .albumSub { z-index: 100; position: absolute; /* other stuff */ } I am guessing that the first rule is given a higher specificity, however according to [1] the * should not

Re: [css-d] Assistance on site

2006-05-02 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Dave Goodchild wrote: > Hi all, hope you're well. I have just completed my business site using pure > xhtml and css and am pleased with the results which can be seen at > http://www.web-buddha.co.uk. > Another suggestion to add to Georg's: get rid of the fixed height on the nav bar and footer

Re: [css-d] Placement changes slightly from page to page

2006-05-02 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Tony Balazs wrote: > I would be very grateful if you could help me fix a problem. When > clicking between pages using the left nav bar some pages seem to move > right or left relative to each other and I can't see why. > Because the vertical scrollbar comes and goes. My advice -- ignore it

Re: [css-d] This is driving me nuts (dont know what to call it)

2006-05-02 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Georg the two links below your name were very helpful. > > After reading through them, I dont understand why the right columns > padding needs to be set to 1px. I tried setting padding top to 0px but > It does not have the same result. > > I was wondering if this could

Re: [css-d] Re Weird space in list with floats

2006-05-02 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
francky wrote: > [1] While I couldn't RE from the original post, I'm afraid this reply > will not adjust in the proper place in the list. > > And this is why I just responded to Vinson as if no one else had responded -- I didn't see this reply. Just ignore me Vinson! Francky has already take

Re: [css-d] Weird space in list with floats

2006-05-02 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Vinson Gracia (777) wrote: > I have a hierarchical list that I would like to contain Divs with > other floating divs for each list item. > > But I get some weird space after the div only if there are no textual > elements in it. I'm just wondering why this is happening and is there > a way to contr

[css-d] z-index and IE 6 - overlapping elements

2006-05-02 Thread Bostjan Kern
Hi! URL: http://neovizija.com/emanuel/ Problem: The element with z-index: 0; is overlapping the element with z-index: 100. It works fine in Safari, Firefox and Opera though. Any ideas how to *fix* this? Cheers, Bostjan :) __ c

[css-d] Jumping blocks in Ie

2006-05-02 Thread Guillaume
Hi everyone, I'm experiencing a content jump in Ie ( all versions ) in a list using a simple a:hover {background-color: #000;} This is a known bug since Ingo Chao has built a detailed description on Pie about: "Quirky Percentages in IE6's Visual Formatting Model". I tryed to remove the floats, w

[css-d] Problems rendering in IE6

2006-05-02 Thread Raoul Snyman
Hi, http://saturnlabs.homelinux.net/treasure/catalog.html On this page, if you browse using IE6 (and 5 too I presume), you'll see that the page is wide although there's nothing there. In Firefox, the design is perfect. It seems that the width of the #listing div is wider than the page, but I

Re: [css-d] Simple (?) padding question

2006-05-02 Thread antmanbee
on 2/5/06 9:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I dont' understand the problem. Paste in all the code and I will try and > help. > thanks ross I've got a test page online that may/should clarify it for you IE: top of main text box spacing incorrect Firefox etc: top of main te

Re: [css-d] Simple (?) padding question

2006-05-02 Thread ross
I dont' understand the problem. Paste in all the code and I will try and help. Ross - Original Message - From: "antmanbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 9:12 AM Subject: [css-d] Simple (?) padding question Hello list First of all I'll come clean and admit

[css-d] Simple (?) padding question

2006-05-02 Thread antmanbee
Hello list First of all I'll come clean and admit that I'm far more used to dealing with Flash than anything else ­ so don't start throwing things at me! But I have to do this site in html and am trying to make use of CSS to make the type look 'pretty'. And I've encountered the problem with bo

Re: [css-d] Centering a 2 column layout

2006-05-02 Thread Els
Mike Gillespie wrote: > A 2 column left justified layout was easy enough to do, but > this centered version is getting to me. > I can get it to look right in FF/Win or IE6/Win, but not both. > Looked for hacks, but so far, nothing that helps when page is > centered (even though they work when not