Re: [css-d] IE6 Stacking Issue or Something Else?

2008-08-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Akins wrote: > http://www.springfieldmo.gov/newSite/negMargin.html > http://www.springfieldmo.gov/newSite/negMargin.css > > In IE6 only, the Contact Us area in the left column won't snug right > up to the right-hand content column. Ok, so you've got the horizontal alignment right, but th

Re: [css-d] Testing CSS for higher screen resolutions

2008-08-22 Thread David Laakso
Polka Dot Cottage Admin wrote: > > > My screen resolution is 1024x768, and the content of my site fits that > window nicely. I want to test how it will behave on a monitor with higher > resolution. > > Lisa > > Viewing your page in Opera at zoom 90%, 80%, 50% will give you an idea of how it

Re: [css-d] Testing CSS for higher screen resolutions

2008-08-22 Thread Jim Davis
Here is what the left side looks like on my 1928 wide monitor. http://www.jimdavis.org/polkadot.jpg You may want to consider centering the header content for viewing on wider monitors. Jim www.jimdavis.org On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Polka Dot Cottage Admin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [css-d] Testing CSS for higher screen resolutions

2008-08-22 Thread Keith DiSarno
My answer: If you don't mind the wait, http://browsershots.org/ will give you some options and be able to actually see how it renders. My 2 cents... I am with you Lisa, I like to see how things look at different resolutions and such. Not saying the previous information was wrong at all, but some

Re: [css-d] Testing CSS for higher screen resolutions

2008-08-22 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/08/22 18:20 (GMT-0400) Polka Dot Cottage Admin apparently typed: > I'm new to the list, and relatively new to CSS, as well. I've taught myself > quite a bit in the course of designing my website, but there is one problem > I haven't been able to overcome: > My screen resolution is 1024x7

Re: [css-d] Testing CSS for higher screen resolutions

2008-08-22 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > discuss.org] On Behalf Of Polka Dot Cottage Admin > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 3:21 PM > To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org > Subject: [css-d] Testing CSS for higher screen resolutions > > Hi. > > I'm new to the li

[css-d] Testing CSS for higher screen resolutions

2008-08-22 Thread Polka Dot Cottage Admin
Hi. I'm new to the list, and relatively new to CSS, as well. I've taught myself quite a bit in the course of designing my website, but there is one problem I haven't been able to overcome: My screen resolution is 1024x768, and the content of my site fits that window nicely. I want to test how i

Re: [css-d] IE6 Stacking Issue or Something Else?

2008-08-22 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > discuss.org] On Behalf Of Chris Akins > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 2:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: CSS-D List > Subject: Re: [css-d] IE6 Stacking Issue or Something Else? > > Apologies if I was playing arou

Re: [css-d] Trouble with line-height and overflow:hidden

2008-08-22 Thread Marcel Stör
On 22.08.2008, at 23:04, Chris Akins wrote: > Setting up a container that's fixed in BOTH height and width is > failing to design for the web, in my opinion. It's design for print. I fully agree 100%. It's not my call however. The height/width is given and I have to deal with it. > etc. Th

Re: [css-d] Trouble with line-height and overflow:hidden

2008-08-22 Thread David Jones
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Stör > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:41 AM > To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org > Subject: [css-d] Trouble with line-height and overflow:hidden > > What I need to achieve: > A CMS template prov

Re: [css-d] IE6 Stacking Issue or Something Else?

2008-08-22 Thread Chris Akins
Apologies if I was playing around with the stylesheet when you looked at it, but "margin-left:200px" is already in the #content rules. I don't think I had modified that rule, but I've been trying quite a few things in my efforts to understand what the issue is. Adding the IE6-only specification b

Re: [css-d] Trouble with line-height and overflow:hidden

2008-08-22 Thread Chris Akins
The issue (my opinion), isn't really one of CSS but of concept. The short answer to what CSS can achieve is "yes" it can do its part to get to a Photoshop design PROVIDED that design is really one for the web and not for print or some other fixed medium. Sounds like what you're up against is a de

Re: [css-d] IE6 Stacking Issue or Something Else?

2008-08-22 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > discuss.org] On Behalf Of Chris Akins > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 1:21 PM > To: CSS-D List > Subject: [css-d] IE6 Stacking Issue or Something Else? > > Using a basic negative margins framework, I've modified to

Re: [css-d] Wondering why this happens

2008-08-22 Thread Keith DiSarno
Thanks Thierry! Keith D. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Thierry Koblentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > discuss.org] On Behalf Of Keith DiSarno > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:58 PM > > To: [EMAIL PRO

[css-d] Trouble with line-height and overflow:hidden

2008-08-22 Thread Marcel Stör
What I need to achieve: A CMS template provides a fix-sized (height and width are px- based) in which I need to display arbitrary text entered by the user. Hence, if the full text doesn't fit into the it needs to be cut off i.e. invisible. So, the style will contain overflow:hidden. However

[css-d] IE6 Stacking Issue or Something Else?

2008-08-22 Thread Chris Akins
Using a basic negative margins framework, I've modified to get almost everything to work across browser/platform land except for our ol' friend IE6. http://www.springfieldmo.gov/newSite/negMargin.html http://www.springfieldmo.gov/newSite/negMargin.css In IE6 only, the Contact Us area in the left

Re: [css-d] Wondering why this happens

2008-08-22 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > discuss.org] On Behalf Of Keith DiSarno > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; css-d@lists.css-discuss.org > Subject: Re: [css-d] Wondering why this happens > > Bil

Re: [css-d] Too much for MSIE 6 and 7 to cache?

2008-08-22 Thread Rachel Mawhood
Hi Jens Thank you for looking - that's really helpful. Kind regards Rachel At 10:44 22/08/2008, Jens Brueckmann wrote: >Hi Rachel, > >no problem here with IE6. Images were displayed on first page loading. > >Cheers, > >jens > >-- >Jens Brueckmann >http://www.yalf.de

Re: [css-d] Wondering why this happens

2008-08-22 Thread Keith DiSarno
Bill, >From what I see, you can combine the two styles because of the same name, but then you have display:inline-block and block in the same style. How can this be? Are you working around something in IE? Inline-block possibly? Thanks, Keith On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:39 AM, Bill Brown <[EMAIL

Re: [css-d] One Rounded Corner is Problematic

2008-08-22 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > discuss.org] On Behalf Of Chris Akins > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:38 AM > To: CSS-D List > Subject: [css-d] One Rounded Corner is Problematic > > Thanks to Gunlaug's suggestion to try this approach for my 2-co

Re: [css-d] rollover discrepency

2008-08-22 Thread Bill Brown
Daniel Kessler wrote: > Okay, so the basic idea as I see it is to work with the anchors instead > of the li. I saw the li as the more base part and worked from big to > small, but here small was the essential part (the link). > Now that "side li" and "side li:hover" are gutted, do I still need > t

Re: [css-d] rollover discrepency

2008-08-22 Thread Daniel Kessler
ah, I love explanations. I'm not great on memory unless I understand something. Never would've been a good actor. Okay, so the basic idea as I see it is to work with the anchors instead of the li. I saw the li as the more base part and worked from big to small, but here small was the esse

[css-d] IE problem

2008-08-22 Thread Deep Garcha
> Hi everyone, > I'm working on the website template in Joomla and having problem with the > top navigation in IE6. For some reason, it's being pushed down in IE6. It > works great in Mozilla and IE7. Can anyone please suggest where is the > problem and how can it be resolved. Thanks in advance. He

[css-d] One Rounded Corner is Problematic

2008-08-22 Thread Chris Akins
Thanks to Gunlaug's suggestion to try this approach for my 2-column design: I've ported my earlier attempt over to this - and quite easily (though IE6 is totally messed up yet, and IE 7 has a couple quirks). http://www.springfieldmo.gov/newSi

Re: [css-d] rollover discrepency

2008-08-22 Thread Bobby Jack
--- On Fri, 8/22/08, Daniel Kessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://sph.umd.edu/events/wellness2/template.html > > The navigation menu has padding between the s. > Because of this, > when I rollover the , it doesn't highlight > the text (black) for a > few pixel from each side. > Any sug

Re: [css-d] rollover discrepency

2008-08-22 Thread Bill Brown
Daniel Kessler wrote: > http://sph.umd.edu/events/wellness2/template.html > The navigation menu has padding between the s. Because of this, > when I rollover the , it doesn't highlight the text (black) for a > few pixel from each side. > Any suggestions for making this work consistently? I've

Re: [css-d] rollover discrepancy

2008-08-22 Thread Rees, Mark
Put the padding on the a instead? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniel Kessler Sent: 22 August 2008 15:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [css-d] rollover discrepency http//sph.umd.edu/events/wellness2/template.html The navigation menu has

[css-d] rollover discrepency

2008-08-22 Thread Daniel Kessler
http//sph.umd.edu/events/wellness2/template.html The navigation menu has padding between the s. Because of this, when I rollover the , it doesn't highlight the text (black) for a few pixel from each side. Any suggestions for making this work consistently? I've checked Firefox Mac and Safar

Re: [css-d] Margin collapse around float

2008-08-22 Thread Bobby Jack
--- On Fri, 8/22/08, Philippe Wittenbergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The margin-top of paragraph 3 actually collapses with the > margin- > bottom of paragraph 1, but is then extended by the used > height + > margins of paragraph 2. > Of

Re: [css-d] width:100% + padding/margin question

2008-08-22 Thread Bill Brown
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > Bill Brown wrote: > That is not a case of 'margin-collapsing'. :-) > In this case, the bottom-margin of the last-child paragraph is > swallowed by the overflow on the parent box (the one with > overflow:auto and height:100% set). Right...margin-swallowing, not m

Re: [css-d] Wondering why this happens

2008-08-22 Thread Lesley Binks
Bill Brown wrote: > Lesley Binks wrote: >> http://herlug.org.uk/gimping/test.html >> I thought the menu height would pull the background url down as it is >> contained in the div that draws the background url. Obviously I have >> got something wrong in that expectation. >> Can you offer any help

Re: [css-d] Margin collapse around float

2008-08-22 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Aug 22, 2008, at 8:27 PM, Bobby Jack wrote: > According to the CSS2.1 spec "Vertical margins between a floated box > and any other box do not collapse", yet my testing reveals that, in > the following arrangement: > > 1. a normal paragraph > 2. a floated paragraph > 3. a cleared paragraph

Re: [css-d] width:100% + padding/margin question

2008-08-22 Thread Alan Gresley
Bill Brown wrote: > Bobby Jack wrote: >> Bill, can you elaborate on this point? In FF2/Win, I DO see a bottom >> margin on that last element when it scrolls due to "overflow: auto". >> E.g. the yellow background 'shows through' below the last paragraph, >> same size as the other 'borders'. > > Hi

Re: [css-d] width:100% + padding/margin question

2008-08-22 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Bill Brown wrote: > I get the bottom margin on some OS/Browser combos as well, but more > often, it collapses. I haven't checked the spec yet, but I suspect > that > this behavior is incorrect because it isn't countered by the normal > collapsing margin fixes (application of padding or border

Re: [css-d] width:100% + padding/margin question

2008-08-22 Thread Bill Brown
Bobby Jack wrote: > Thanks, Bill. That's more-or-less the exact same test I had and, FYI, > the border does NOT collapse on FF2/Win. It's very interesting, isn't it? It's not the behavior I'd expect. My thinking is the same for your other post: I would expect the margins above /and/ below to prop,

Re: [css-d] width:100% + padding/margin question

2008-08-22 Thread Bobby Jack
--- On Fri, 8/22/08, Bill Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Test Page: > http://theholiergrail.com/focus-on-style/bottom-margin-collapse-with-overflow-auto.html Thanks, Bill. That's more-or-less the exact same test I had and, FYI, the border does NOT collapse on FF2/Win. - Bobby _

Re: [css-d] width:100% + padding/margin question

2008-08-22 Thread Bill Brown
Bobby Jack wrote: > Bill, can you elaborate on this point? In FF2/Win, I DO see a bottom > margin on that last element when it scrolls due to "overflow: auto". > E.g. the yellow background 'shows through' below the last paragraph, > same size as the other 'borders'. Hi Bobby, I get the bottom mar

Re: [css-d] Margin collapse around float

2008-08-22 Thread Bobby Jack
--- On Fri, 8/22/08, Jason Pruim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... Safari 3.1.2 seems to be doing what you said ...: > > | Normal Paragraph > | > | > | Floated Paragraph > | > | cleared Paragraph Spot on. And now that IE is the only one of the big 4 to display the behaviour that seems to be desc

Re: [css-d] Margin collapse around float

2008-08-22 Thread Jason Pruim
I don't have anything to offer to the solution other then the fact that Safari 3.1.2 seems to be doing what you said.To try and represent it in my ASCII art: | Normal Paragraph | | | Floated Paragraph | | cleared Paragraph | Which I believe is what you are saying? On Aug 22, 2008, at 7:27 A

Re: [css-d] Wondering why this happens

2008-08-22 Thread Bill Brown
Lesley Binks wrote: > http://herlug.org.uk/gimping/test.html > I thought the menu height would pull the background url down as it is > contained in the div that draws the background url. Obviously I have > got something wrong in that expectation. > Can you offer any help? Hi Lesley, See if thi

[css-d] Margin collapse around float

2008-08-22 Thread Bobby Jack
According to the CSS2.1 spec "Vertical margins between a floated box and any other box do not collapse", yet my testing reveals that, in the following arrangement: 1. a normal paragraph 2. a floated paragraph 3. a cleared paragraph margins collapse between 2 and 3, but not between 1 and 2. At l

Re: [css-d] width:100% + padding/margin question

2008-08-22 Thread Bobby Jack
--- On Fri, 8/22/08, Bill Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In an overflow situation, collapsing margins will prevent > any bottom > margining (faux padding) to appear on the last element > contained with > #box2. I've never found a decent workaround for this, > but the code above > will give you

[css-d] Wondering why this happens

2008-08-22 Thread Lesley Binks
Hi folks, I'm wondering why this happens http://herlug.org.uk/gimping/test.html The menu and content are both contained in a div which has the background url set. However the menu content seems to have no effect, in that the background url is not continued for the height of the menu before th

Re: [css-d] Too much for MSIE 6 and 7 to cache?

2008-08-22 Thread Jens Brueckmann
Hi Rachel, no problem here with IE6. Images were displayed on first page loading. Cheers, jens -- Jens Brueckmann http://www.yalf.de __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki

Re: [css-d] Too much for MSIE 6 and 7 to cache?

2008-08-22 Thread Rachel Mawhood
Hi David >Don't know how your Browsercam session was set to capture, maybe it >wasn't waiting long enough every time before doing the capture?? Thank you - I did wonder if that might be the problem. When the Board members were invited to review the site last week, one wrote that when she firs

Re: [css-d] Too much for MSIE 6 and 7 to cache?

2008-08-22 Thread david
Rachel Mawhood wrote: > There is a group of "captures" on this public page on Browsercam, > three pages x MSIE 6 and 7 > > http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=385801 > > and the thing I don't understand at the moment is why sometimes the > "masthead" of the web page does not appear a

Re: [css-d] Awkward layout

2008-08-22 Thread Alan K Baker
- Original Message - From: Bill Brown To: Alan K Baker Cc: css-d Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [css-d] Awkward layout Hi Alan! The technique you're seeking was covered in an A List Apart article in late 2004: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/c

[css-d] Too much for MSIE 6 and 7 to cache?

2008-08-22 Thread Rachel Mawhood
Hello list There is a group of "captures" on this public page on Browsercam, three pages x MSIE 6 and 7 http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=385801 and the thing I don't understand at the moment is why sometimes the "masthead" of the web page does not appear and sometimes it does. Th

Re: [css-d] Awkward layout

2008-08-22 Thread Bill Brown
Alan K Baker wrote: > Obviously the top-left header is straightforward and could be put > into a 1/2 width left column and I could have a 1/2 width right > column for the other text. Try as I may, I can't get my head around > putting images in the center so that the left and right column text > flo

Re: [css-d] width:100% + padding/margin question

2008-08-22 Thread Bill Brown
Chang Huang wrote: > > > > > #box1 { width:500px; height:200px; } > #box2 { width:100%; height:100%; padding:10px; } > The 10px padding of #box2 will be allocated outside of #box1. > According to the box model, this is the correct behavior (except for >

[css-d] Awkward layout

2008-08-22 Thread Alan K Baker
Hi all. I have placed a pdf file at the following URL: http://www.webbwize.co.uk/Test_Area/ketron-dec06.pdf The first two pages show a layout that I wish to achieve. Obviously the top-left header is straightforward and could be put into a 1/2 width left column and I could have a 1/2 width righ