Re: [css-d] Font size

2009-01-22 Thread Hayden's Harness Attachment
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Re: [css-d] What are your takes on more then one Stylesheet

2009-01-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Laakso wrote: I @import hacks for IE/7 and down (regardless of the size or complexity of the site) using the same "black magic" method as Georg Sortun. FYI: the "black magic"... ...works extremely well. Confirmed by IE8b2 ... it only

Re: [css-d] What are your takes on more then one Stylesheet

2009-01-22 Thread David Hucklesby
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:13:36 -0500, Sarah Atkinson wrote: > One thing I tend to do is instead of having all my styles in main.css I will > have a css > folder and in it usualy something like main.css, header.css, footer.css, > maybe other > things that are item specific like menu.css, documenttab

Re: [css-d] What are your takes on more then one Stylesheet

2009-01-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Erika Meyer wrote: Is there a special reason, other than stylistic, that you would choose to @import the main stylesheet, rather than directly linking to them both from the HTML file? I have a few reasons for this approach, and they weigh in a bit more on static sites than on dynamically crea

Re: [css-d] What are your takes on more then one Stylesheet

2009-01-22 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Is there a special reason, other than stylistic, that you would choose to @import the main stylesheet, rather than directly linking to them both from the HTML file? One advantage of using @import from within the main stylesheet is that you can add/delete new/obsolete stylesheets. Using h

Re: [css-d] What are your takes on more then one Stylesheet

2009-01-22 Thread David Laakso
Sarah Atkinson wrote: One thing I tend to do is instead of having all my styles in main.css I will have a css folder and in it usualy something like main.css, header.css, footer.css, maybe other things that are item specific like menu.css, documenttable.css, sidemenu.css. I use this so that it¹s

Re: [css-d] IE7 and background image links.

2009-01-22 Thread David Hucklesby
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:47:19 -, Ian Young wrote: > [...] > Am using background images in menu (don't normally use images but needs must). > > Thing is in IE7, the links are not working. I guess this is because there > isn't > anything in the actual link. > [...] > > http://www.iyesolutions.co.

Re: [css-d] What are your takes on more then one Stylesheet

2009-01-22 Thread Erika Meyer
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Type 2: "normal with variations". For sites that have layout variations - not necessarily major variations, I use one stylesheet for each variation. These are normally quite small/short stylesheets containing styles for the main source-code elements and other styles that are

Re: [css-d] Inline styles vs. external style sheet

2009-01-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Sarah Atkinson wrote: Right now I am converting all my inline styles to an external stylesheet. Many of these styles are a one use style and not re-used elsewere(except maybe the both;²> What true benefit do I get by adding these to as css page vs. leaving them inline? For styles used only

Re: [css-d] What are your takes on more then one Stylesheet

2009-01-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Sarah Atkinson wrote: One thing I tend to do is instead of having all my styles in main.css I will have a css folder and in it usualy something like main.css, header.css, footer.css, maybe other things that are item specific like menu.css, documenttable.css, sidemenu.css. I use this so that

Re: [css-d] What are your takes on more then one Stylesheet

2009-01-22 Thread Ryan Doherty
While this is fine for development and debugging, it's a pretty big performance hit for your users to download lots of CSS files. Combining them into 1 large file results in a page that loads quicker by reducing HTTP requests. http://developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html#num_http -R

Re: [css-d] Inline styles vs. external style sheet

2009-01-22 Thread Dan Gayle
I believe you are wrong. There are valid reasons for adding inline styles. For instance, when creating a plugin or widget for a CMS or other managed site, often the CSS and/or the HTML cannot be modified. Or perhaps something is created in the content itself that needs specific styling, i

Re: [css-d] Drop Caps

2009-01-22 Thread Ron Koster
At 11:14 PM 1/21/2009 +0100, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: FWIW: the basic layouts on my private site... ...are just overbuilt and overstyled versions of "negative margins"... Once you've understood

[css-d] What are your takes on more then one Stylesheet

2009-01-22 Thread Sarah Atkinson
One thing I tend to do is instead of having all my styles in main.css I will have a css folder and in it usualy something like main.css, header.css, footer.css, maybe other things that are item specific like menu.css, documenttable.css, sidemenu.css. I use this so that it¹s easier to find my style

Re: [css-d] Inline styles vs. external style sheet

2009-01-22 Thread tedd
At 11:16 AM -0500 1/22/09, Sarah Atkinson wrote: Right now I am converting all my inline styles to an external stylesheet. Many of these styles are a one use style and not re-used elsewere(except maybe the What true benefit do I get by adding these to as css page vs. leaving them inline? Sarah

Re: [css-d] Pragmatic look at our CSS future - ripped from: The CSS Overlords

2009-01-22 Thread Nancy Johnson
The problem is the custom javascripts etc, that were built into the application in 2001 and continually are added to since. I'm not sure its that unusual. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Monica Nath wrote: > Isn't upgrading the IE browser free? I guess it would take the helpdesk > employee's ti

Re: [css-d] Inline styles vs. external style sheet

2009-01-22 Thread Virgilio Quilario
hi, for me, i always try to create css rules that can be applied to many pages. as a result, i get consistent layout across pages, a compact css and html files, and easy styling change to my pages. cheers, virgil http://www.jampmark.com

Re: [css-d] Inline styles vs. external style sheet

2009-01-22 Thread Highpowered
Sarah Atkinson wrote: Right now I am converting all my inline styles to an external stylesheet. Many of these styles are a one use style and not re-used elsewere(except maybe the What true benefit do I get by adding these to as css page vs. leaving them inline? Sarah, I feel about inline

[css-d] IE7 and background image links.

2009-01-22 Thread Ian Young
Hi all, Long time since I have been on. Am using background images in menu (don't normally use images but needs must). Thing is in IE7, the links are not working. I guess this is because there isn't anything in the actual link. Have Googled and found nothing, can you help. Test page a

Re: [css-d] Pragmatic look at our CSS future - ripped from: The CSSOverlords

2009-01-22 Thread Ingo Chao
Even if we can make a site look nearly the same in every browser, we should not attempt this anymore. Big sites are getting bigger, and the performance is affected a lot if we use expressions/scripts and filters for IE. If the site absolutely must "look" the same, the site is inevitably getting sl

Re: [css-d] Inline styles vs. external style sheet

2009-01-22 Thread Cristian Palmas
I didn't send to the list... 2009/1/22 Cristian Palmas : > Hi Sarah, > > Well, a simple answer is that, without inline style, you have only to > change the CSS file and not the HTML too. HTML is to give the page a > structure, CSS for rendering the layout. > > The only inline styles I use are: >

Re: [css-d] Inline styles vs. external style sheet

2009-01-22 Thread Bobby Jack
--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Sarah Atkinson wrote: > Many of these styles are a one use style ... > > What true benefit do I get by adding these to as css page > vs. leaving them inline? If what you say about 'one-use' is *really* true, just: 1. Smaller HTML files and, thus, faster download and renderi

[css-d] Inline styles vs. external style sheet

2009-01-22 Thread Sarah Atkinson
Right now I am converting all my inline styles to an external stylesheet. Many of these styles are a one use style and not re-used elsewere(except maybe the What true benefit do I get by adding these to as css page vs. leaving them inline? Sarah __

Re: [css-d] Pragmatic look at our CSS future - ripped from: The CSSOverlords

2009-01-22 Thread Bobby Jack
> From: Nancy Johnson [mailto:njohnso...@gmail.com] > > The problem with getting rid of IE6 is too many internal > applications > especially in the business community will only work in IE6, > like the > internal application we use. > > From: Michael Stevens > > So, who's the rocket scientist th

Re: [css-d] RE; The CSS Overlords

2009-01-22 Thread Jen Strickland
I have had ( and surely others have also had) clients who were so insistent the webpage (as designed by their long-time advertising company) be as static as the printed page that they furnished a JPEG image of the desired page and I was instructed that web page was to consist of that single

Re: [css-d] Pragmatic look at our CSS future - ripped from: The CSSOverlords

2009-01-22 Thread Michael Stevens
-Original Message- From: Nancy Johnson [mailto:njohnso...@gmail.com] The problem with getting rid of IE6 is too many internal applications especially in the business community will only work in IE6, like the internal application we use. There is no budget to make the updates and I'm sure

Re: [css-d] Pragmatic look at our CSS future - ripped from: The CSS Overlords

2009-01-22 Thread Nancy Johnson
The problem with getting rid of IE6 is too many internal applications especially in the business community will only work in IE6, like the internal application we use. There is no budget to make the updates and I'm sure they are massive. Nancy On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Alexandru Dinules

[css-d] Problems with max-width, right aligned div and remaining height design

2009-01-22 Thread Olivier Sannier
Hi all, Let's consider the following two pages: http://photos2.obones.com/photo.php?NoPhoto=483 http://photos2.obones.com/photo.php?NoPhoto=484 I'm using the suggestions from Patrick Vanbergen (http://www.patrickvanbergen.com/dhtml/remaining_height.html) to have a display where the bottom div

[css-d] [Fwd: Replacing HTML Table Align in CSS]

2009-01-22 Thread Kamru Miah
Thanks to all those who responded to my previous email. The problem has now been resolved (with margin: 0 auto). Kamru Original Message Hello, Could someone advise me how to replace the depreciated HTML table align property with CSS equivalent please? e.g. Many thanks, Kam

Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-22 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/1/22 Bobby Jack and Gunlaug: > --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Ib Jensen wrote: >It does! >You have 'height : 100px;' on your footer, and all browsers but IE6 and >older honor that height - which is too short for the footer's content. >The result is correct and looks "interesting", but wasn't quite wh

Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-22 Thread Bobby Jack
--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Ib Jensen wrote: > Considering that FF, belongs to the "better part" > of the browsers, > I've would have expected that FF had shown it more > correctly than IE > in this case. Ib, as pointed out in my earlier response to your post, Firefox (and all the other more standards

Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ib Jensen wrote: Considering that FF, belongs to the "better part" of the browsers, I've would have expected that FF had shown it more correctly than IE in this case. It does! You have 'height : 100px;' on your footer, and all browsers but IE6 and older honor that height - which is too short

Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-22 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/1/22 Gunlaug Sørtun : > Ib Jensen wrote: Link : http://ikjensen.dk/test/common/blank.html > >>> The "auto-expansion" bug in IE6 and older. > >> Well, then I hope that I somehow can get FF to look like IE in this >> situation. Because IE is showing the Footer as I want it to look. >

[css-d] Replacing HTML Table Align in CSS

2009-01-22 Thread Kamru Miah
Hello, Could someone advise me how to replace the depreciated HTML table align property with CSS equivalent please? e.g. Many thanks, Kamru -- ** * Mr Kamru Miah Email: k.m...@csl.gov.uk * * Information Systems Team

Re: [css-d] Pragmatic look at our CSS future - ripped from: The CSS Overlords

2009-01-22 Thread Alexandru Dinulescu
My opinion is that standards for old browsers should be dumped, and then force people to upgrade to anything newer. I for one do not offer support for anything lower than ie6, and ie6 is paid support. Because it's a pain to create and make sure everything works on IE6 quircks, and i dislike the use