Re: [css-d] Problem with all Mac browsers according to BrowserCam

2009-07-18 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Reese" > I agree with you that your suggestion is the preferred option, but > the menu items range from 5 to 20 characters (with spaces, some of > them). The text of those items is not negotiable with the client so > I don't see that getting very far. I suppose the other option is to > use

Re: [css-d] Problem with all Mac browsers according to BrowserCam

2009-07-18 Thread Reese
David Hucklesby wrote: > ... I suggest you make the link container, > probably an LI, a fixed width, and take out any padding to the left and > right of the text. Give the link text "breathing room" to expand, at > least to the entire width of its container. That way, differences in > text size an

Re: [css-d] Problem with all Mac browsers according to BrowserCam

2009-07-18 Thread David Hucklesby
Reese wrote: > David Laakso wrote: > >> Wild guess... >> >> Try: font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Geneva, Arial, sans-serif; and >> "comment-out" the letter-spacing. > > Helvetica Neue? > > The latest BrowserCam results indicate that dropping the letter > spacing fixed the line wrap ... I thin

Re: [css-d] Problem with all Mac browsers according to BrowserCam

2009-07-18 Thread David Laakso
Reese wrote: > >> Are the list-items letter-spaced. >> > > Yes. > > >> Are the list-items calling Verdana. >> > > No. Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif. > > Wild guess... Try: font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Geneva, Arial, sans-serif; and "comment-out" the letter-spacing.

Re: [css-d] Problem with all Mac browsers according to BrowserCam

2009-07-18 Thread Reese
David Laakso wrote: > Wild guess... > > Try: > font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Geneva, Arial, sans-serif; > and "comment-out" the letter-spacing. Helvetica Neue? The latest BrowserCam results indicate that dropping the letter spacing fixed the line wrap (and the array of list items appears to b

Re: [css-d] Problem with all Mac browsers according to BrowserCam

2009-07-18 Thread Reese
Hello David, David Laakso wrote: > Are all of your browsers set to default font-size. > Are all your browsers set at their default-- minimum font-size. All the Win-platform browsers, yes and yes. > Are the list-items letter-spaced. Yes. > Are the list-items calling Verdana. No. Geneva, Arial

Re: [css-d] Problem with all Mac browsers according to BrowserCam

2009-07-18 Thread David Laakso
Reese wrote: > I have an inline, unordered list for a horizontal navigation menu. > What I'm seeing on BrowserCam, all Mac browsers increase the size > of the text in those hnav links, causing the list to wrap to a new > line where the wrapped text gets lost against the background. > > > Reese > >

Re: [css-d] css validation help

2009-07-18 Thread David Laakso
Alan Gresley wrote: > > I > have been influenced by Georg and his masterpiece. > > http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_02_01.html > > > > Indeed. Interesting fellow, Georg: On feeding styles to Redmond... (works for me)

[css-d] Problem with all Mac browsers according to BrowserCam

2009-07-18 Thread Reese
I have an inline, unordered list for a horizontal navigation menu. What I'm seeing on BrowserCam, all Mac browsers increase the size of the text in those hnav links, causing the list to wrap to a new line where the wrapped text gets lost against the background. That's BrowserCam, a Mac user tells

Re: [css-d] css validation help

2009-07-18 Thread Alan Gresley
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > > Just 2 notes on this: > > On Jul 17, 2009, at 3:29 PM, Alan Gresley wrote: > >> I would not recommend >> hacking your HTML with IE Conditional comments since they are not in one >> location and thus not easily removed. > > > 1. If your website is larger than 3 p

Re: [css-d] css validation help

2009-07-18 Thread Alan Gresley
david wrote: > Alan Gresley wrote: [...] >> Hello Erik, >> >> This is still hacking HTML for IE7 or lower due to lack of support for >> CSS2.1. My CSS and hacks are *centralized* as oppose to being >> *decentralized* in the HTML. They can be removed in a flash. > > All your conditional comment (

Re: [css-d] css validation help

2009-07-18 Thread Brian Hazelton
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > Just 2 notes on this: > > On Jul 17, 2009, at 3:29 PM, Alan Gresley wrote: > > >> I would not recommend >> hacking your HTML with IE Conditional comments since they are not in >> one >> location and thus not easily removed. >> > > > 1. If your website is larg

Re: [css-d] css validation help

2009-07-18 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Just 2 notes on this: On Jul 17, 2009, at 3:29 PM, Alan Gresley wrote: > I would not recommend > hacking your HTML with IE Conditional comments since they are not in > one > location and thus not easily removed. 1. If your website is larger than 3 pages and reuses the same stylesheets, I h

Re: [css-d] IE7: Non-floated h2 next to floated element

2009-07-18 Thread Valerie Wininger
> > Not sure about IE 7 (N.A. here, right now), but based in IE 6: > > .post { >        /*float:left; >        clear:both;*/ >        padding-top:1px > } > > Philippe > --- > Philippe Wittenbergh > http://l-c-n.com/ > > > Philippe, That did the trick--Thank you SO much!! Valerie Wininger www.21r

Re: [css-d] IE7: Non-floated h2 next to floated element

2009-07-18 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jul 18, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Valerie Wininger wrote: > http://superluxefibers.com/dev/blog/. > > The issue is in IE7. The first blog post shows the correctly > lines up next to the div containing the date. However, in the 2nd > post, the alignment has changed, and the element appears to be > cl

Re: [css-d] css validation help

2009-07-18 Thread david
Alan Gresley wrote: > Erik Vorhes wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:29 AM, Alan Gresley wrote: >>> The best way is to only hack IE7 or lower since all modern browsers >>> (including IE8) should render a page the same way. I would not recommend >>> hacking your HTML with IE Conditional comments si

[css-d] IE7: Non-floated h2 next to floated element

2009-07-18 Thread Valerie Wininger
Hey everyone. I have been looking at this issue for far too long, and I'm hoping that one of you can save me. The website I'm working on is here: http://superluxefibers.com/dev/blog/. The issue is in IE7. The first blog post shows the correctly lines up next to the div containing the date. Howeve