Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

Elli Vizcaino wrote: That's nice. How dose that help OP? And if the OP is not concerned about it, now... just why did she write about it in the first place? In my estimation the font in question remains a real-world problem and ignoring that issue for a reason that happens to be convenient at the

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

David Laakso wrote: On 12/24/2011 3:20 PM, david wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Barney Carroll wrote: I am incredibly pretentious ;) You think you really have to tell us that, having already written : there are no credible user personas who fire up Windows and Mac to make sure their experie

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

> That's nice. How dose that help OP? And if the OP is not concerned about it, > now... just why did she write about it in the first place? In my estimation > the > font in question remains a real-world problem and ignoring that issue for a > reason that happens to be convenient at the moment

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

> Hiya Elli, > > I see 4 obvious ways out to the problem. You may feel uncomfortable with all > of > them but they could help you get a conceptual grip on how to deal with the > situation as a thought exercise > 4) Accept that font-rendering APIs will always differ, and that there is only >

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

On 12/24/2011 3:20 PM, david wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Barney Carroll wrote: I am incredibly pretentious ;) You think you really have to tell us that, having already written : there are no credible user personas who fire up Windows and Mac to make sure their experience of a site has bit

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

Philip TAYLOR wrote: Barney Carroll wrote: I am incredibly pretentious ;) You think you really have to tell us that, having already written : there are no credible user personas who fire up Windows and Mac to make sure their experience of a site has bitmap parity ???! :-) I just though

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

Barney Carroll wrote: I am incredibly pretentious ;) You think you really have to tell us that, having already written : there are no credible user personas who fire up Windows and Mac to make sure their experience of a site has bitmap parity ???! :-) Philip Taylor

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

Hiya Elli, I see 4 obvious ways out to the problem. You may feel uncomfortable with all of them but they could help you get a conceptual grip on how to deal with the situation as a thought exercise. 1) Install FontForge (open source and free to use), open up the font in question, and through a

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

On Dec 24, 2011, at 3:25 AM, Elli Vizcaino wrote: >> here is a test case: >> http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/ev-20111223.html >> and a screen shot - from left: Safari, Opera, Firefox 9: >> http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/ev-20111223.png > > Yes the Little Day font is of normal-weight, it's a free commerci

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

On 12/23/2011 5:43 PM, Elli Vizcaino wrote: Fwiw, the webfont renders just fine in Windows or OS X as far as I can tell... ~d Fine as in legible, sure but not identically. The appearance of fonts on Mac OS tend to be slightly on the bolder side. Elli Vizcai

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

> Fwiw, the webfont renders just fine in Windows or OS X as far as I can > tell... > > ~d Fine as in legible, sure but not identically. The appearance of fonts on Mac OS tend to be slightly on the bolder side. Elli Vizcaino _

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

I think this is a case of the Mac OS engine rendering fonts differently, period as it always seems to be the case w Mac versus Windows OS. Elli Vizcaino Fwiw, the webfont renders just fine in Windows or OS X as far as I can tell... ~d __

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

>Gecko 1.9.2 and Safari 5.1/ Chrome dev channel all render the same. >A nightly Firefox build and Opera render the 'Little Days' font differently >(and differently from each other). > >The issue is that your 'Little Days' font is a 'normal weight' face, but your >stylesheet specifies that it sho

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

On Dec 23, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Elli Vizcaino wrote: > So does this mean that on a Mac, the font looks like it does in FF? And > I'm seeing something that safari is doing here on my windows machine? Gecko 1.9.2 and Safari 5.1/ Chrome dev channel all render the same. A nightly Firefox build and Op

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

On 12/22/2011 5:52 PM, Elli Vizcaino wrote: http://www.e7flux.com/clients/sof/ Elli Vizcaino For whatever unknown reason Safari is not rendering the @font-face webfont in any version of OS Windows [as far as I can tell] as intended. An alternative solution may be to select another font. T

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

> On Dec 23, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Elli Vizcaino wrote: > >> This has always been my experience w Safari render fonts even when viewing > directly on a Mac. I really need the font to render like the rest of the > browsers because that heavy weight is throwing my design off :(. >> >> http://ww

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

> On Dec 23, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Elli Vizcaino wrote: > >> This has always been my experience w Safari render fonts even when viewing > directly on a Mac. I really need the font to render like the rest of the > browsers because that heavy weight is throwing my design off :(. >> >> http://www

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

On 2011-12-22, at 8:16 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > On Dec 23, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Elli Vizcaino wrote: > >> This has always been my experience w Safari render fonts even when viewing >> directly on a Mac. I really need the font to render like the rest of the >> browsers because that heavy

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

On Dec 23, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Elli Vizcaino wrote: > This has always been my experience w Safari render fonts even when viewing > directly on a Mac. I really need the font to render like the rest of the > browsers because that heavy weight is throwing my design off :(. > > http://www.e7flux.c

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

>  I need the font-weight set to bold for all the other browsers but, don't >need it for Safari due to the aforementioned. > > Elli Vizcaino Try specifying -- font-weight:normal; -- on the appropriate selectors. Reload Safari. ~d David, I think what you're suggesting will NOT render the fon

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

On 12/22/2011 5:52 PM, Elli Vizcaino wrote: http://www.e7flux.com/clients/sof/ I need the font-weight set to bold for all the other browsers but, don't need it for Safari due to the aforementioned. Elli Vizcaino Try specifying -- font-weight:normal; -- on the appropriate selectors.

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

On Dec 23, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Elli Vizcaino wrote: > Is there a way to serve Safari browsers a browser specific stylesheet via > conditional comments? If so, how do I do set it up? As noted Conditional Comments are IE only. There are a variety of 'hacks' floating around to target WebKit. As wit

Re: [css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

Elli, I don't have Safari here, so can't really replicate the issue, but: 1) Conditional comments are strictly IE phenomenon AFAIK. 2) What about Stokely Safari hack or Giant Island (I think that's how the successor to Stokely was called)? http://www.stormdetector.com/hacks/safarihack.html http:

[css-d] CSS Via Conditional Comments for Safari?

Hello CSS Discuss, Is there a way to serve Safari browsers a browser specific stylesheet via conditional comments? If so, how do I do set it up? My reason being that since by default Safari tends to render fonts with a "bold" weight, it's making the custom script font in this site: http://www