Re: [css-d] Drop Caps

2009-01-22 Thread Ron Koster
At 11:14 PM 1/21/2009 +0100, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: FWIW: the basic layouts on my private site... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_26.html ...are just overbuilt and overstyled versions of negative margins... http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins Once you've understood how

Re: [css-d] Drop Caps

2009-01-21 Thread Ron Koster
Firstly, thanks for your reply, Holly -- and also thanks to Jen, too, for the tip (in a separate message) on the book to look for At 11:59 AM 1/19/2009 -0600, Holly Bergevin wrote: As with most things CSS, you'll need to test the effect you want in the environment it's going to be placed. Oh,

Re: [css-d] Drop Caps

2009-01-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ron Koster wrote: Another page that may give you an example is - http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_04.html Nicely laid out page, Georg (assuming you're reading this)! As an old table layout guy (for the time being, at least), when I look at the source code for pages like yours,

Re: [css-d] Drop Caps

2009-01-19 Thread Ron Koster
At 08:43 PM 1/18/2009 -0500, Bill Brown wrote: I'm just leading horses to the Kool-Aid...I can't make 'em drink it. Okay, apparently I didn't explain my questions well enough, it would seem. Once again, on this page... http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=DropCaps ...is the following

Re: [css-d] Drop Caps

2009-01-19 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Ron Koster r...@psymon.com http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=DropCaps ...is the following recommended way to do up dropcaps... Ron, As with most things CSS, you'll need to test the effect you want in the environment it's going to be placed. Oh, and in a variety of browsers as well

[css-d] Drop Caps

2009-01-18 Thread Ron Koster
One of the issues that I've been having is with drop caps, and in looking for a solution I found this page... http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=DropCaps ...which recommends this code... p:first-letter { font: 2.5em/80% serif; float: left; padding: 0.2ex 0 0 0.2ex;

Re: [css-d] Drop Caps

2009-01-18 Thread Bill Brown
Ron Koster wrote: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=DropCaps p:first-letter { font: 2.5em/80% serif; float: left; padding: 0.2ex 0 0 0.2ex; margin: 0; overflow: visible; } and so I'm just wondering if there's a particular reason why... a) 2.5em/80% is

Re: [css-d] Drop Caps

2009-01-18 Thread Ron Koster
At 08:09 PM 1/18/2009 -0500, Bill Brown wrote: 2.5em is the size of the font in relation to the parent element. In your example, the first letter of every paragraph on the page would be 2.5 times the height of the font of the paragraph. 80% is the line-height, which does not require a unit, so I

Re: [css-d] Drop Caps

2009-01-18 Thread Bill Brown
Ron Koster wrote: ...will it break in some browser or other? For one thing, for example, I'm not sure why extra padding is needed (or suggested) on two sides of the drop cap. Ron, I'm just leading horses to the Kool-Aid...I can't make 'em drink it. -- !-- ! Bill Brown macnim...@gmail.com