Re: [css-d] Fwd: Media Queries

2011-09-28 Thread Barney Carroll
Regarding the col element, the theory was that you would-be able to use it as a shorthand for all cells within it, thus defining colours, typography etc by implicit table structure rather than chucking class names on all cells, using adjacency selectors, or somesuch. In practice, browser

Re: [css-d] Fwd: Media Queries

2011-09-28 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Sep 28, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Barney Carroll wrote: Regarding the col element, the theory was that you would-be able to use it as a shorthand for all cells within it, thus defining colours, typography etc by implicit table structure rather than chucking class names on all cells, using

Re: [css-d] Fwd: Media Queries

2011-09-28 Thread Tom Livingston
Thanks everyone. As always, lots of good info, but it seems to always come down to a back and forth on design where I work. I'm not a designer, just front-end dev. Design usually wins. So I am forced to struggle to pull off what someone else demands based on visuals. Some day... Some day...

[css-d] Fwd: Media Queries

2011-09-27 Thread Tom Livingston
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:57 PM, David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote: On 9/27/11 3:26 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: List, I'm going around and around with this and can't see the source of my woes. Can anyone see the cause of layout issues in IE8 and IE7? IE8 is close, but it seems

Re: [css-d] Fwd: Media Queries

2011-09-27 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Sep 28, 2011, at 5:55 AM, Tom Livingston wrote: The html errors i can live with. I do not know how to do cellspacing with CSS border-collapse border-spacing http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/tables.html#borders and I think classing table columns to control width is kinda silly. hmm. The col

Re: [css-d] Fwd: Media Queries

2011-09-27 Thread Tom Livingston
Thanks Philippe. Besides simple html emails, I haven't used a table in a long time. I'll dig into border-collapse and spacing. For the col element, it seems that besides passing the validator, it's kinda the same as setting widths on ths or tds, no? Adding a row of cols - extra markup - just to