Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it - ALMOST GOT IT

2006-02-08 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
> the php code does a browser check and if IE it loads a very small > additional CSS bit to fix IE > This isn't a reliable way of doing things. Anybody can spoof the user agent HTTP header, and many people do. Opera, whose CSS standards compliance is much better than IE6, pretends to be IE by def

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it - ALMOST GOT IT

2006-02-07 Thread Ingo Chao
Peter Lindstrom wrote: > http://www.allanalog.com/aaw/5.php > > the php code does a browser check and if IE it loads a very small > additional CSS bit to fix IE > > ... comments, fixes to my remaining problems, sarcastic remarks on my > sarcasm.. > all are appreciated.. :) Peter, I thin

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it - ALMOST GOT IT

2006-02-07 Thread Peter Lindstrom
ok.. after many hours of banging my head on the keyboard and apparently annoying more than a couple people here with my simple comment "css should be easier" I have a nearly working solution for my layout. first, I would like to thank the people at http://www.tanfa.co.uk/ for providing a layout th

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-07 Thread Peter Lindstrom
.. Peter Lindstrom All Analog - Technical Design Consulting Ottawa, ON Voice: 613-612-1419 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:www.allanalog.com   ::-Original Message- ::From: Roger Roelofs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ::Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:23 AM ::To: css-d css-d ::Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-07 Thread Roger Roelofs
Peter, On Feb 7, 2006, at 1:37 AM, Peter Lindstrom wrote: > why can't I just have: > ... > and define my width, background colors, images etc per div as I see > fit. > pretty sure it doesn't really need to be this difficult. If it weren't for old browsers (like ie6/win) you could. And, you are

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-07 Thread Scott Wilcox
On the note of learning PHP/JS that quickly, I've been working in and with PHP now for a long time and for many different uses. I've learned many things along to way and completely agree with what Christian said. Its one thing knowing the syntax of a language, and what functions, classes and th

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-06 Thread Christian Heilmann
> well YES.. certainly some frustration in my post - took me a weekend to > learn PHP and another one to learn JS.. but 2 years and still table or css > layouts drive me nuts. If you learnt PHP and JS in one weekend each then you are either a certified genius or you learnt some syntax and think yo

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-06 Thread Michael Hulse
On Feb 6, 2006, at 10:37 PM, Peter Lindstrom wrote: > why can't I just have: > > > > > > That would be nice, but then again, everyone and their dog would be "web designers"... no thanks. Have you surfed these sites: http://www.cssbeauty.com/ http://cssdrive.com/ http://w

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-06 Thread Peter Lindstrom
oming to stds in the next year or so.. but likely not to browsers for a couple yrs after that. Peter... ::-Original Message- ::From: Christian Montoya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ::Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 1:18 AM ::To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org ::Subject

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-06 Thread Christian Montoya
On 2/6/06, Peter Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think bottom line is that CSS is not really at the stage where it can be > used for page layout for complex layouts (not that mine is that complex - > but still haven't seen a solution that can work here). > > seemed like a nice idea though.

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-06 Thread Christian Heilmann
> I think bottom line is that CSS is not really at the stage where it can be > used for page layout for complex layouts (not that mine is that complex - > but still haven't seen a solution that can work here). You might be right, and I must say that by standing your ground and using a hybrid CSS/T

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-06 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
Peter: Peter Lindstrom wrote: > yes, I have tried both the faux columns approach that you use and the large > padding solution.. can't get either to work very well. > > maybe you can correct me if I am wrong but the faux column approach sets a > body background because the body tag will cover the

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-06 Thread Seona Bellamy
On 07/02/06, Peter Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in my particular case (http://www.allanalog.com/aaw/) the column I am > trying > to stretch is the center column in middle section of my page (with About > Us > at the top) - so ideally I would like to have a wrapper only around column > 2

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-06 Thread Peter Lindstrom
3-612-1419 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:www.allanalog.com   ::-Original Message- ::From: Ricky Zhou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ::Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:14 PM ::To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::Subject: Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it :: ::On 2/5/06, Peter Li

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-05 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2/5/06, Peter Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - 2 columns > - they both stretch vertically to fill page and/or content This is my test for a full height layout: http://riczho.dyndns.org:1123/fullheight/ Unfortunately, it doesn't work in IE7.. But I've tested this in IE 6, Firefox, Opera,

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-05 Thread Christian Heilmann
> > is this not possible??? : > > > > - 2 columns > > - they both stretch vertically to fill page and/or content Jono gave solutions for any column longest, as for the "filling the page", there are footer solutions in CSS, too. This is not a technical problem but a misunderstanding in thinking. A

Re: [css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-05 Thread Jono
> is this not possible??? : > > - 2 columns > - they both stretch vertically to fill page and/or content Threatening to use tables won't get you much advice here...I'd be surprised if anyone else replied to a message that starts out that way.[/noise] [signal] There are plenty of suggestions her

[css-d] vertical stretch .. just can't get it

2006-02-05 Thread Peter Lindstrom
well I have read about 10 different site postings about how to do a CSS based vertical column stretch.. I would have to say.. I think time to give up and go back to table layouts. is this not possible??? : - 2 columns - they both stretch vertically to fill page and/or content Seems like it shoul