Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-14 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- Last of the responses (whew). I never expected one forward to generate such a response. << The only people bickering are those against diversity.>> Not bickering against diversity, bickering against the intolerance practiced by the folks running the seminar. IIRC, the original p

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-14 Thread Joshua Tinnin
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "klewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 14 Jul 2002 at 7:47, c. wrote: > > > as long as people don't fuck with your life or your way of thinking- then they are > > not sinning and you should leave them alone to get on with it. it is a tolerant > > phi

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-14 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- Bear with me, I'm answering a couple of days' worth of posts in one shot. <> That's why I didn't do this earlier. :-D <> Making phonics fun: the TV show Wheel of Fortune is an excellent tool for teaching the kids to read. Each letter is pronounced by the contestants, Vanna sho

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-14 Thread RevCOAL
-Caveat Lector- From: c. >so why the hell was he hanging around with whores >if he told us not to associate with "sinners"? >are you calling Jesus a hypocrite? she "washed his >feet"... if you know whati mean *snigger* Two points: 1.  there is a gro

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-14 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- This will teach me to answer my email before im really awake I was still going on about the original thrust of this thread - The girl who was not allowed to make a speech condemning homosexuality. on 7/14/02 10:49 AM, klewis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-14 Thread klewis
-Caveat Lector- UmmmAndrea Yates is the Texas mother who drowned her five children and is now in prison for life.. On 14 Jul 2002 at 10:20, thew wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > She should be allowed to speak. > But that of course opens the door for any opinion to be expressed. > Is it ok for s

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-14 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- She should be allowed to speak. But that of course opens the door for any opinion to be expressed. Is it ok for someone to make a speech in school that goes "nigger nigger nigger?" Should a student be allowed to make a speech that opens with the line " fuck all Catholics, they sh

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-14 Thread klewis
-Caveat Lector- On 14 Jul 2002 at 7:47, c. wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > as long as people don't fuck with your life or your way of thinking- then they are > not sinning and you should leave them alone to get on with it. it is a tolerant > philosophy that neither condemns - or takes any shit from

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-14 Thread c.
ECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN >> Will you tolerate a murderer? A thief in your home? A queer molesting your child? http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informat

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-14 Thread InfoWarz
-Caveat Lector- The beauty of your English prose is only surpassed by your utter ignorance. At 02:47 AM 7/14/02 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- so why the hell was he hanging around with whores if he told us not to associate with "sinners"? are you calling Jesus a hypocrite? she "washed his feet"..

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread c.
age - From: Jim Rarey To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN -Caveat Lector- Jesus taught tolerance, not just by word, but by deed.    Yes, but tolerance of differences, e.g. the Good Samaritan, but not

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- on 7/13/02 7:53 PM, InfoWarz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > At 06:25 PM 7/13/02 , you wrote: >> -Caveat Lector- >> >> Union is not the same as homogeneity. >> >> In fact Union can only occur among that which was diverse. Otherwise there >> is nothing to unify.

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- on 7/13/02 8:13 PM, InfoWarz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Then we have conflict. Tolerance of evil leads to total dominance of evil. No one is speaking of tolerance of evil - we are talking about tolerance of cultural differences. Tolerance for your brothers and sisters in the

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Jim Rarey
the money changers out of the temple?   JR   - Original Message - From: Nessie SFBG To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN -Caveat Lector->So-called tolerance and diversity are the best tools yet to divide>and conquer the Am

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread InfoWarz
-Caveat Lector- At 07:16 PM 7/13/02 , you wrote: >-Caveat Lector- > >>So-called tolerance and diversity are the best tools yet to divide >>and conquer the American people. > > >Diversity is a fact of life. It isn't going away. We have to deal >with it. The best way to deal with it is to teach tol

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread InfoWarz
-Caveat Lector- At 06:25 PM 7/13/02 , you wrote: >-Caveat Lector- > >Union is not the same as homogeneity. > >In fact Union can only occur among that which was diverse. Otherwise there >is nothing to unify. But it the union we celebrate not the diversity. >Schools need to focus on the 3 r's - a

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Bill Kalivas
-Caveat Lector- No, Jesus has no place in public education. Public education is Anti Christ. Public education is a tool for indoctrinating impressionale children into the new world order. And he didn't teach tolerance outside of God's Law. Public education is a tool for indoctrinating impression

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Nessie SFBG
-Caveat Lector- >So-called tolerance and diversity are the best tools yet to divide >and conquer the American people. Diversity is a fact of life. It isn't going away. We have to deal with it. The best way to deal with it is to teach tolerance. Either we teach tolerance or we have conflict. The

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- The point is not to lose "The Grapes of Wrath" but to enhance it with Stories similar and divergent from around the world. I'm all for studying the dead white men. I'm also all for rounding that out with everyone else who has something of value to offer. And as a post script th

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Joshua Tinnin
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Tenorlove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > < inherently corrupt, and any government which purports to support a > religion is corrupted even further. > > I leave symbols to the "symbol minded," to quote George Carlin.>> > > Isn't it great that you live

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Union is not the same as homogeneity. In fact Union can only occur among that which was diverse. Otherwise there is nothing to unify. Schools need to focus on the 3 r's - and also the additional r's of reason, rhyme, and respect. on 7/13/02 6:16 PM, InfoWarz at [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread InfoWarz
-Caveat Lector- So-called tolerance and diversity are the best tools yet to divide and conquer the American people. They are brainwashing tools of oppression and destruction straight out of the Illuminati's Protocols of Sion and the Communist Manifesto. Schools should teach the three R's, not

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN -Caveat Lector- Bullshit There are many ways to teach reading, and phonics is only one of them.  (whole language approach is another, as an example) You are confusing levels here You obviously will not be having 1st graders read weighty tomes on diversity

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Jim Rarey
h reading.   JR   - Original Message - From: Nessie SFBG To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN -Caveat Lector->by using the few hours they do have for teaching about diversity, it>takes away from hours that could be better spent t

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Tenorlove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN > < girl speaking- which *is* immoral. but your comment above seems to > indic

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Nessie SFBG
-Caveat Lector- >by using the few hours they do have for teaching about diversity, it >takes away from hours that could be better spent teaching about >reading, That's absurd. Teach them about reading by having them read about diversity. Teach critical thinking by having them discuss what they

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- Answering several posts in one shot, quotes in << >>, no attribution, you know what you said, if you can't remember, go to the archives. <> Yep. <> No, I DON'T have vouchers. This is New Jersey. Only kids that live in "failing districts" (read: predominantly black/Hispanic; ra

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Tolerance and diversity are what America is all about. Teaching people not to hate others based solely on religion, race, belief system, or who they like to fuck is not promoting a homosexual agenda, it is diffusing violence and hatred. Personally I think the girl should be allo

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- The schools are teaching a morality. It may be politically correct, but it is definitely not a healthy one. It sponsors a diversity that isn't really isn't diverse, but straightjackets thinking and then sends it on its way. There are definitely not enough hours in the day to te

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- How would this student feel about a student standing up and criticizing Catholicism, the catholic agenda, and a religious curriculum? on 7/13/02 7:45 AM, Tenorlove at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > What really galls me about this whole thing is that the school s

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Joshua Tinnin
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Tenorlove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --- Joshua Tinnin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What really galls me about this crap is that people get so worked up > > over > > the fact that public schools are not built and designed to teach > > their own

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Tenorlove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 12:45 PM Subject: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN > -Caveat Lector- > > What really galls me about this whole thing is that the scho

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- --- Joshua Tinnin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What really galls me about this crap is that people get so worked up > over > the fact that public schools are not built and designed to teach > their own > facet of morality. Another thing that really galls me is the assumption tha

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Joshua Tinnin
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Tenorlove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What really galls me about this whole thing is that the school spent a > whole week on this PC cr*p when they could have much better spent the > time on things like reading, writing, match, science, geography --

[CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- What really galls me about this whole thing is that the school spent a whole week on this PC cr*p when they could have much better spent the time on things like reading, writing, match, science, geography -- you know, those hopelessly outdated ACADEMIC subjects. The kids got the s