On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Fred Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks to all who have replied so far - as Herb says, the cygwin+sshd+rsync
combo is extremely useful, not least in that it allows my client PC's to
simply run sshd as a very efficient (ie resource unintensive) background
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Fred Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Ged,
Thanks for the info, due to being on a University campus, we are restricted
in what we are allowed to set up and VPN's are one of those explicitly
mentioned :-( However, since OsX has a built in VPN server, I will
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Christopher Faylor
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Your analysis of the problem is likely incorrect.
I think we are saying the same thing, if you like your explanation
better, that is fine with me.
Nevertheless, the problem is still there and as always PGA. I have
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Danilo Turina
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The long answer is... well there are hundreds of brilliant persons in this
list that can give you the long answer better than I could possibly do.
Cygwin is source compatible, not binary compatible with Linux. This
means
Ronald, you should post that to the cygwin mailing list. And be more
specific. AFAIK, rsync is a cygwin package.
Search the cygwin mail list archives.
I discovered a long standing issue with rsync on Cygwin that to the
best of my knowledge was never resolved, it fails under certain
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Thanks guys for all these informations ... In fact, I have tried both solutions
connect and corkscrew but I haven't been able to connect through the proxy with
neither utility. I am getting a forbidden message and if I turn debug option on
when using connect, I get something like that:
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that the time between typing a letter and viewing
the response is of the order of 1-2 seconds.
Are you running anit-virus software? Do you have active virus
scanning turned on? If so, try turning it off to see if it changes
this behavior.
Brett
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mkdir test cd test rmdir ../test
does work in Linux but not under Windows and therefor not under
Cygwin.
This works under Linux/UNIX as the rmdir removes the directory entry,
disassociating it from the inode, the files still exist as the OS is
using the inode as the handle. When this
NTFS and FAT file systems simply do not have the concept of inodes,
Cygwin is dependent upon the facilities supplied by these file systems.
Actually NTFS does have something like an inode. That's what Cygwin
uses.
Then why does this fail? Please enlighten us?
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NTFS and FAT file systems simply do not have the concept of inodes,
Cygwin is dependent upon the facilities supplied by these file systems.
Actually NTFS does have something like an inode. That's what Cygwin
uses.
Then why does this fail? Please enlighten us?
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When I fire-up a cygwin bash window, everything is fine for a few minutes.
Then the CPU utilization on my system suddenly jumps to 100%. Bash is
typically grabbing about 80% of the CPU, with almost all the rest grabbed by
Are you running any virus or spyware protection software?
Brett
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I' really am not interested in arguing with you.
Then why are you!
I simply clarified to the original poster what was happening under the
hood on the UNIX/Linux side so they could understand, essentially
defending why it isn't supported under Cygwin.
I've noticed this before, you tend
Can anyone tell me how to increase the dimensions of the cygwin window?
I would like it to come up as a full screen window.
This is more of a Windows question. Right click on the top of the
window and look in the properties.
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This is EXACTLY the behavior I'm getting am describing as a hang, except
that I don't get a xterm. The reason I'm trying to track it down is that I
would *really* like to drop a link to startxwin.bat into my startup folder and
have it run at startup so I don't have to think about it.
how i can set the batch file?? can you give me a link for a tutorial??
thanks
C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat
Just double click it in explorer
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STARTXWIN.BAT is hanging on the startup under Win2KPro. If I run it, it
will stall out - I can't right-click on the X icon in the system tray to
bring up the menu, and when I examine the processes, it appears that
XWin.exe is running, as well as an xterm.exe process, but no XTerm ever pops
up.
Use secure shell (openssh), the r protocols are deprecated due to
security concerns. Secure shell is a drop in replacement for the r
protocols (mostly) with much better security and has become the
standard.
There is a secure shell deamon that can be run under Cygwin and should
do what you want.
I've tried to start several graphical aplications, like xmgrace, twm or xpdf
and I get always the same message Can't open display: It seems there is
no display configured for the X server.
On the other hand, Xwin starts the Xserver with no error messages.
You must have the DISPLAY variable set
I am having a problem to remove the cygwin folder, it delete most files
but mail in some!
Looks like i dont have permitions to remove the folders :s
I tryed to Chmod it, but it says that it cant change permission!
So is there any other way to remove the folder and subfolders\files (
other than
I'm trying to get rsync to work, but I get this message:
Rsync ver = 2.6.6
WARNING: The rsync program: '/bin/rsync' is not valid.
Does anyone know why im getting this message?
Rsync runs on the client and the server. This message means they our
out of sync, no pun intended. The two
There have been several posts in regard to the ssh -X/-Y hang, with no
resolution.
A simplistic work around is to simply not use xauth.exe. If the port
that the X server is running on (i.e. 6000 by default) is only
available via localhost, this should be reasonably secure vs.
validating
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This is really a tricky problem. What I could do to circumvent this at
least for connections over ssh is to upload an OpenSSH test version
which uses socketpairs instead of pipes for the local connection to the
applications. This avoids using pipes which are the culprit here,
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This
There have been several posts in regard to the ssh -X/-Y hang, with no
resolution.
A simplistic work around is to simply not use xauth.exe. If the port
that the X server is running on (i.e. 6000 by default) is only
available via localhost, this should be reasonably secure vs.
validating
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X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
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In theory you have credentials in a file called .Xauthority. These
credentials are forwarded along with the display and need to be sent
back to the
This is really a tricky problem. What I could do to circumvent this at
least for connections over ssh is to upload an OpenSSH test version
which uses socketpairs instead of pipes for the local connection to the
applications. This avoids using pipes which are the culprit here,
apparently.I
Corinna,
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rant The rsync hangs problem is not actually a new one. We had
these reports already ages ago. However, *nobody* so far having that
problem seem to be willing to actually debug this problem and track it
down. Grrr. /rant
This is exactly fair, several individuals did their
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Doesn't even run once for me. Creating all the files over ssh works fine
but the rsync invocation fails with
(Client) Protocol versions: remote=1919251285, negotiated=29
protocol version mismatch -- is your
If there is something I can do in order to narrow down the problem,
please let me know. This issue has already been discussed on the rsync
list (https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2957) and Wayne from
the rsync project was quite sure about what he called the Cygwin's
pipe-data bug.
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So, it almost seems as if the ^Q is the problem. Except that ^Q means start
transmission, not stop, and no key presses get me out of being stuck, except
for ^D to exit the session.
Any ideas of where I should start looking?
Try adding -v's to your ssh command line for more details.
ZoneAlarm, but I have the remote PC in my trusted list. Plus, both
Cygwin/X/putty and X-Win32/StarnetSSH work fine, so this seems to be a
Cygwin issue...
The only way I've been able to use either the -X or -Y switches is to
uninstall ZoneAlarm, shutting it down is insufficient.
The problem,
Still sounds like a ZoneAlarm issue. It's worth another look.
There was a time when this worked with ZoneAlarm, from the best I can
recall, it was after a Cygwin update that it broke. My older system
that I mentioned, is running almost the lastest ZA with an older
Cygwin install and it works
Freezes: I type my password, hit enter, and I don't get any additional
output. -vvv says that things are being sent to /dev/null
What are you running for a firewall? ZoneAlarm, Norton...
Brett
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1. I am not running Zone Alarm 5 and I have Windows firewall turned off.
I have found that turning the firewall off in some cases isn't enough
and/or is worse that leaving it on in diagnosing these types of
problem. If you believe ZA is causing the problem, either turn it on
and allow the
I installed cygwin but did not select enough tools. Took about 4 installs
before I thought I got all the stuff I needed, x11, etc, etc. However, there
is no .bashrc nor .bash_profile. cd /home/xxx does nothing except report home
does not exist. echo $HOME does work. Is there a fix for
But now I just realized the obvious: Only X GUIS work and not windows.
Is this correct?
Yes!
I assume I can tunnel rdesktop the same way I tunnel vnc? I guess I'll try
tunneling both vnc and rdesktop next.
I've heard this works, but have not tried personally. If you get this
working, can
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However, I cannot seem to start an X session from my ssh -X -p 892
[EMAIL PROTECTED] session.
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I have previously reported this behavior, and not seen a fix, it used to work.
The problem is running xauth under the covers hangs.
If you add -v -v -v to your line above, you'll see it
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If I boot in safe mode, I don't see this problem. Since SpySweeper
doesn't start in safe mode, maybe SpySweeper is the culprit. I have no
idea how to fix this though.
I do not run with SpySweeper, and have experienced this problem.
During my original attempt to diagnose, I turned off all
Chris,
Hi Brett, if you might help me locate this posting, would greatly appreciate
it; I'm not that familiar with forks, bash, and tcsh so I'm not totally clear
on what to search on). Meanwhile I'll post to the guy just a few messages
above with a similar problem and refer him this!
Corinna,
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I'm running sshd without the -r option all the time and I can't observer
the high CPU load as reported. What's different on your system?!?
I *believe* this primarily happens on Windows2000. I wasn't able to
track down. The problem is that once the system gets in this state,
Can someone recommend a free, optionally GUI, FTP client with support for
AUTH TLS that
has been ported for Windows? Support for AUTH SSL, SSL connect and
X.509 client auth is
optional.
This is off-topic for this list.
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Emiel,
The subject calls out services, the body talks about processes.
Which is it?
I want to monitor all the processes that are running on Windows 2003
and CygWin with a script (cobol).
Cobol is a compiled language not a scripting language Are you looking
for API calls from COBOL or
Emiel,
Please reply to the list and format so all can benefit/follow along. I
slightly rearranged so this makes sense on the list.
The subject calls out services, the body talks about processes.
Which is it?
I want to monitor all the processes that are running on Windows
2003 and
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Can cygwin ssh be used with VNC to open a VNC session on a remote
server? I have successfully open a session using plain RealVNC
server on the windows server (from red hat 8) and would like to do it
securely with ssh.
Yes, I do this daily, using OpenSSH on CygWin at either/both ends.
I'm unable to run shell scripts in wish using
open [list | my-shell-script]
The error I get is
couldn't execute my-shell-script: no such file or directory
- the shell script is set as executable - it starts with #!/bin/sh -
/bin/sh is executable - the directory where my-shell-script
It appears your PATH doesn't include the directory for my-shell-
script.
As I said, my PATH _does_ include that directory
(/cygdrive/c/users/bin).
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Yes, you did, but you are also not taking into account process
inheritance. When you pipe a command, subprocesses are being created and
snip
For example, 'xeyes' starts (after startxwin.bat), but emacs does not!
Emacs used to run reliably for me, but the last couple of releases
simply consumes significant CPU and never displays. How many such
applications have your tried and how many fail to display. In these
cases, have you
Scott,
Thanks for the suggestion. Switching from socketpair() to
pipe() does let ssh get going, but rsync later runs into
problems. A few minutes into the transfer it just hangs.
I've actually been able to run fine once past the initial hang, but I've
seen reports of random
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Try opening a cmd.com window in c:\cygwin\bin (or whatever it is
named), then running 'bash --login -xv' to see every command executed
by bash during startup. Maybe that will help you pinpoint the
culprit.
This really helps understand why it takes so long to open a bash shell,
the login
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Apparently not. According to the man page Once installed, you can use
rsync to any machine that you can access via remote shell. For remote
transfers, rsync uses ssh for its communications
Yes, this is one way that rsync can communicate, in this mode, rsync
uses ssh to start a copy
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I'm not very good at digging through archives, but I did eventually
find http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2006-01/msg00424.html which
discusses a hang, (but no fix)
Right, never found a fix. I did however find that ZoneAlarm treats
localhost and 127.0.0.1 differently, atleast in
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i=i++ is either a no-op or nonsense, depending on the
interpretation. You should either use i=i+1 or i++ (those should
be equivalent in modern compilers).
The strick interpretation of i=i++ starts by evaluating the right side
i++ to compute a r-value (right value). Since the ++ is after
I have installed Cygwin. I want to invoke a shell
script from the DOS/Windows command prompt (instead of opening
Cygwin Window first and calling it from there). How can I do this?
Thanks for any help.
The following seems the naive way -- someone else may offer other
options:
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Since yesterday, i have made some investigation, and i have found that
rpcgen comes from the same package (both on RH and cygwin), but it's a
problem of version: - RH: /* @(#)rpc.h2.4 89/07/11 4.0 RPCSRC;
from 1.9 88/02/08 SMI */ - Cygwin: /* @(#)rpc.h2.3 88/08/10 4.0
RPCSRC;
I met a very strange problem as follows:
After I finish installing the latest version of cygwin on my computer,
I try to run C:\cygwin\cygwin.bat. The only thing I got is a black
window splash for a second and then immediately disappear.
Try running the script from a DOS command prompt so
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Adam,
Unfortunately, the program appears to hang when compiled and run, though
the child process is launched. What is really bizarre is that this code
works fine when compiled under Linux. Are there any pitfalls to be
particularly aware of when trying to use this construct? Is this
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Thanks for your reply. For me bash and piping is unavoidable. Is using
an earlier version of cygwin a solution? And which version is known to
not have the above mentioned problems?
Roland,
I haven't tested backwards to see when this may have worked better.
My suggestion in regard to
I have just installed cygwin-1.5.19-4. A pipe like gzip ?cd | tar ?xf
? is very slow. Gzip and tar alone are working reasonable. Ok this can
be avoided ;-)
But than I tried g++, and again it takes ages before a simple file is
compiled. All Virus Checking tools are off. What am I doing wrong?
I am installing cygwin on a XP box. I have downloaded the setup and
files to my local c:/tmp/files
When I run the setup, all appears good. I point to c:/cygwin and tell it
to find files from c:/tmp/files. The install completes fine but when I
type a cd ~ (show my home directory) the
[snip]
I also find the sleep(2000) in heap.cc when the mapping error is
detected rather suspicious - is this to avoid a race condition with
the parent?
Dunno, suspect it may have been something experimental. Take a look
at when it arrived in the CVS and check the associated changelog
I DON'T have a hyperthreaded processor, and still see hangs with the
current stable version of setup.exe (v. 2.510.2.2) It hangs
indefinitely during update-info-dir.sh. My computer is a Pentium-M
1.4GHz, 760MB RAM.
This is a known bug (which is known to have nothing to do with
I am installing cygwin on a XP box. I have downloaded the setup and
files to my local c:/tmp/files
When I run the setup, all appears good. I point to c:/cygwin and tell
it to find files from c:/tmp/files. The install completes fine but
when I type a cd ~ (show my home directory) the terminal
[snip]
I think the key word there is does not yet *support*. Run setup
--help from a command prompt, and setup will output a list of its
command line options into setup.log.full.
This list currently contains an interesting switch:
-A --disable-buggy-antivirus Disable known or
You would think I could find lots of info on this subject, but for
some reason I can't. I found info from googling the subject and some
mention of building php with cygwin, but do not see PHP in cygwin
setup. I tried to run a php script from a cygwin prompt using the
php.exe installed into
The stat(2) system call runs very slowly because it is constantlt
triggering the McAfee on-demand virus scanner to scan the file that
is being stat'ed. This may not seem like a big thing but I
frequently stat thousands of files at a batch. I find that the stat
runs much faster when I
On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 03:35:17PM -0500, Brett Serkez wrote:
I'm still researching, I was going to respond this is posting at a
later time with more insight, but before things get out-of-hand, I
wanted to jump in. I suppose I'm still hopeful that we can zero in
on what precisely is causing
[snip]
We are not going to visit the slippery slope of adding code to Cygwin
to work around other third party software.
I'm hoping and assuming it is going to be more a matter of making minor
changes, if it requires a major change, then it is more likely Microsoft
or some other vendor is at
[snip]
Other than the usual issues with bash and sshd, I suddenly found that
trying to use ssh with X forwarding hung.
[snip]
Have not made much progress, however did find a work around that
others might find useful. Also interested if others are experiencing
the issue.
In summary, the
My question is: what are the settings required by cygwin to operate
normally? ( i guess it needs some environment variables and/or
registry settings ).
Is it just the mount points that are the issue? The path? The desktop
icon? It is possible to run setup against such an 'installation'
[snip]
fontconfig???
Looks like I had the wrong perl-Tk release uploaded, the one with
'experimental' Xft support, and not the standard one on my system (which
is why I couldn't dup this). Now we all know why it's experimental.
Look for a release -4 soon which should fix this.
The '-4'
I often want to cd to a (DOS) path that I've copied from some
Windows App.
The following function (put in one of your startup files .bashrc
.profile etc) saves a few clicks and is forward or backslash proof
[snip]
Without deminishing the value of this procedure, I simply wanted to say
[snip]
Other than the usual issues with bash and sshd, I suddenly found that
trying to use ssh with X forwarding hung.
[snip]
Have not made much progress, however did find a work around that
others might find useful. Also interested if others are experiencing
the issue.
In summary, the
[snip]
Is it just the mount points that are the issue? The path? The
desktop icon? It is possible to run setup against such an
'installation' to update it?
It's primarily just the mount points. See Corinna's message in this
thread for recreating them.
The desktop start menu icons
[snip]
Not particularly, assuming you use the same local package cache on
each machine, especially if you use the trick for pulling in all the
packages you want automatically.
Right.
I don't know about chere,
chere must have settings in the registry, as it adds a 'bash here' menu
option in
Yaakov, if you would be willing to post the debugging symbols for
Tk.dll, I could try ferreting out some more info. Unfortunately, I'm
not up to building a debug version of Perl/Tk at the moment. I don't
recall off-hand who maintains libfontconfig (Harold?), but it's
unlikely to be a
Yaakov, if you would be willing to post the debugging symbols for
Tk.dll, I could try ferreting out some more info. Unfortunately,
I'm not up to building a debug version of Perl/Tk at the moment. I
don't recall off-hand who maintains libfontconfig (Harold?), but
it's unlikely to be
I can reproduce this on WinXP Pro SP1 (cygcheck output attached). Adding
Perl/Tk to my installation and running the program in Brett's message
(http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2006-01/msg00423.html) causes a SIGSEGV.
I don't have a debugging version of Perl, Perl/Tk, or fontconfig, but,
After tedious research, I've figured out that the missing package
is: libwmf.
None of the perl-Tk modules link against libwmf, and a grep of the
sources for wmf returns nothing.
In addition, neither Debian nor Gentoo show libwmf as a requirement
for their packages.
Can you please
I recently upgraded from ZoneAlarm Pro to ZoneAlarm Suite (both version
6.1.737.000).
Other than the usual issues with bash and sshd, I suddenly found that
trying to use ssh with X forwarding hung. Before complaining that
this should be posted on the X11 list, I don't believe the issue is
[snip]
Please also bear in mind, that I only install what I need, the
default plus minimum, in this case, Perl/Tk. If this doesn't work on
your system, please try this approach.
I'll admit that I don't have a mimimal system by any means, but AFAICS
libwmf has nothing to do with perl-Tk.
[snip]
Well, if you can find where ssh is invoked, you can also give it the
-n parameter, which would result in equivalent functionality.
I don't want to confuse anybody, the command in question is being run
internally by ssh to setup an X authorization cookie to pass over the
the xterm on the
3. To answer your earlier question, I installed cygwin and added
the rsync and openssh which were part of the distribution but
were not installed by default. I did not compile my own.
Whis is like the usual package list I do use most commonly. I
never managed to reproduce the
My chief purpose for all of this is to allow automatic backups onto a
Linux file server from various systems (initiating on the Linux box),
including Windows PCs.
Interesting, so your implementing a pull vs. a push. That is the Linux
box is logging into the Windows and pulling files back. As
The Perl/TK package fails to execute even simple Perl/TK programs with
the 'default' installation. That is starting with a brand new
installation of Cygwin, letting it only install the defaults and adding
only the Perl/TK (perl-Tk) results in a segmentation violation when
calling the first
...snip...
Does this tell anyone anything? If not, I could traverse the learning
curve on getting gdb information from the process.
As a point of information, when rsync is run, as in this case using ssh,
it is using ssh to start a remote rsync on the server. These two rsyncs
are able to
...snip...
Does this tell anyone anything? If not, I could traverse the learning
curve on getting gdb information from the process.
As an additional thought on why rsync may be hanging on a write to
stdout, presuming the cause is a deadlock. What is the size of the file
it is hanging on? We
Take the :/path/to/folder off of it - that's for scp.
Chris
That would be fine except this is for rsync over ssh which in the app
I have requires the path.
If you want to run ssh to test the authentication mechanizm, then you
must remove the path as that isn't part of the syntax of
I wonder if it would be worth having ssh-host-config set tcpip as a
dependancy for sshd on all systems? While this doesn't seem to have
cropped up much, specifically, it couldn't hurt..
This has been discussed before, see
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2005-12/msg00089.html. I guess it's
Ken,
I run rsync both Windows and Linux to Linux, Linux always being the
'server'. In my case I found the hang to be up front, before secure
shell even attempted to access the network and also in my case changing
from a local socket to a local pipe resolved the issue:
no additional info. Moreover, there are no special characters or
spaces in these files to suggest a problem in the file or directory
name. Also, each launch seems to stop at a different directory and
file. Bizarre. I don't know how to use strace or I'd try that. -K
Brett Serkez wrote:
Ken
the
rsync and openssh which were part of the distribution but were not
installed by default. I did not compile my own.
Brett Serkez wrote:
Ken,
The rsync protocol actually does check-suming of blocks to
efficiently detect and transfer files. While it may look like it is
hung, it may
I believe sshd will not allow login without both a password and home
directory. The second requirement means you must start a login shell as
a given user to create their home directory. This is a way of
controlling which accounts can login remotely.
Cygwin/Windows doesn't directly support su as
Cygwin creates a UNIX like password file /etc/passwd that links 'UNIX'
users back to Windows users, sshd uses this file to work back to Windows
security information. Ultimately it has to be this way, as it is
Windows that is hosting security, so Cygwin needs to be able to map
accordingly. You
Frankly, I'm not sure what the right fix would be in this case, or
even how to debug this... Any ideas on how I can simulate service
startup on the command line (to allow popping up gdb) would be greatly
appreciated.
Try using a graphical debugger like ddd or insight. Should be able to
Try using a graphical debugger like ddd or insight. Should be able
to start either as the service,
Huh? No, that doesn't work. I need a service wrapper program (like
cygrunsrv), but cygrunsrv can't spawn processes, apparently.
I see. While I've not used this method with services per
On the ZoneLabs message boards I found references to use of tcsh in
place of bash, that seems to work around the problem as follows:
I wonder what the difference is between bash and tcsh that gives rise to
that idea. Your choice of shell shouldn't affect your CPU usage; and if
there
I've not seen any particular difference using Cygwin between
hyper-threaded and non-hyper-threaded CPUs. I have seen issues with
bash and sshd consuming 100% CPU for periods of time on both, which may
or may not be related to ZoneAlarm.
You can better identify the specific process by starting
After running into the hang trying to use rsync over ssh on Cygwin,
reported on this mailing list, but with no resolution other than use of
daemon mode, I tracked down the problem. I have rsync working over ssh
on Cygwin.
The hang is occuring when rsync is attempting to exchange protocol
version
the linker as to precisely which library is in question
vs. the run-time that simply gives up.
Brett
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:55:52 -0500 (EST), Igor Pechtchanski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Brett Serkez wrote:
perhaps there is a missing library dependency
I've found that trying to use either system() or fork() from a Perl/TK
script results in the following error:
C:\cygwin\bin\perl.exe (2508): *** unable to remap
C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll to same address as parent(0xE0) != 0xE1
13 [main] perl 964 fork_parent: child 2508 died waiting for
From what I can tell by searching for similar issues, it *looks* like
the new library may need to be rebased during setup? A packaging
change?
No, it means you need to install the rebase package and run rebaseall
yourself.
Cool, this worked, great. But...what I thought I saw was that
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