Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-20 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004, Max Bowsher wrote: > Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > Well, since my name's been mentioned... Actually, you did miss a whole > > category of people -- the anonymous CVS users... But read on. > > Well, there's always anonymous svn. Restricted to that role, the learning > curve f

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-20 Thread Max Bowsher
Christopher Faylor wrote: Can we put this discussion to rest? I believe it is naturally winding down as it becomes clear that subversion on sourceware isn't really feasible at this time. A few closing comments: - I would not support giving you access to the sourceware web server and allowing you

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-20 Thread Max Bowsher
Igor Pechtchanski wrote: Well, since my name's been mentioned... Actually, you did miss a whole category of people -- the anonymous CVS users... But read on. Well, there's always anonymous svn. Restricted to that role, the learning curve from cvs to svn is small indeed. Personally, I don't mind

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 12:17:11PM +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: >Larry Hall wrote: >>At 12:28 PM 8/19/2004, you wrote: >>>Why is this bad? setup development doesn't really have any ties to the >>>rest >>>of cygwin development. How would this be a disadvantage? >> >>If the two groups of developers are

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-20 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, Max Bowsher wrote: > Robert Collins wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 00:42 +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: > [about the possibility of converting setup to subversion] > > > > I'm also not keen on this for several reasons: > > * subversion doesn't address the issues with merging & d

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-20 Thread Max Bowsher
Alexander Gottwald wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, Max Bowsher wrote: It seems incredibly unlikely that people in general will ever decide on "the best source control system". Which people in particular do you want to wait for? IMO arch and svn have large pros but also large cons. + arch can do great

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-20 Thread Max Bowsher
Larry Hall wrote: At 12:28 PM 8/19/2004, you wrote: Why is this bad? setup development doesn't really have any ties to the rest of cygwin development. How would this be a disadvantage? If the two groups of developers are not mutually exclusive, it's a disadvantage. It sets up a barrier to all th

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-20 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, Max Bowsher wrote: > It seems incredibly unlikely that people in general will ever decide on "the > best source control system". Which people in particular do you want to wait > for? IMO arch and svn have large pros but also large cons. + arch can do great merging - arch

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-19 Thread Max Bowsher
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 07:12:37AM +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: I would not support such a move. I'd be interested to hear your reasons, so we might discuss this. Again, I do not see any reason to fragment cygwin/cygwin-apps development like this. Telling people that you nee

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 07:12:37AM +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: >>I would not support such a move. > >I'd be interested to hear your reasons, so we might discuss this. Again, I do not see any reason to fragment cygwin/cygwin-apps development like this. Telling people that you need to use svn if you

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-19 Thread Max Bowsher
Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Aug 19 23:00, Robert Collins wrote: I'm also not keen on this for several reasons: * subversion doesn't address the issues with merging & distribution that made it difficult for folk with long-running patches to stay in sync * subversion appears to be a very fragile syste

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 19 23:00, Robert Collins wrote: > I'm also not keen on this for several reasons: > * subversion doesn't address the issues with merging & distribution that > made it difficult for folk with long-running patches to stay in sync > * subversion appears to be a very fragile system (I'm working w

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-19 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 00:42 +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: > At some point in the medium-to-long-term future, I'd quite like to move the > setup code from CVS to Subversion. > > Partly, that's because of all the little improvements subversion brings over > cvs, but a notable concrete benefit subversi

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-19 Thread Max Bowsher
Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 00:42 +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: [about the possibility of converting setup to subversion] I'm also not keen on this for several reasons: * subversion doesn't address the issues with merging & distribution that made it difficult for folk with long-running

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-18 Thread Max Bowsher
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 12:42:28AM +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: At some point in the medium-to-long-term future, I'd quite like to move the setup code from CVS to Subversion. Partly, that's because of all the little improvements subversion brings over cvs, but a notable con

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 12:42:28AM +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: >At some point in the medium-to-long-term future, I'd quite like to move the >setup code from CVS to Subversion. > >Partly, that's because of all the little improvements subversion brings >over cvs, but a notable concrete benefit subver

Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-18 Thread Max Bowsher
At some point in the medium-to-long-term future, I'd quite like to move the setup code from CVS to Subversion. Partly, that's because of all the little improvements subversion brings over cvs, but a notable concrete benefit subversion would bring is the ability to moves of files easily, without