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At 6:10 PM -0700 7/21/00, Ernest Hua wrote:
> > I don't think that information about addresses
>> automagically becomes violent (or even not so
>> violent) action.
>>
>> There's a difference between espousing violence
>> and not caring, just as there's a difference
>> between apathy and paci
At 7:28 PM -0500 7/21/00, Jim Choate wrote:
>
>For example, if the government really wanted to limit the sorts of
>firearms available and honor the 2nd Amendment they would have to do two
>things. The first is declare them a military weapon
The 1939 Supreme Court case specifically said that it wa
At 7:33 PM -0400 7/21/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>I recently became aware that there is/was a seattle chapter of
>Cypherpunks. Im moving to Seattle in about two weeks and Id like to know
>if the group is still active somewhere in town. The listse
(this is long, but IMNSHO, worth the read)
What's missing from this thread is a discussion re:why someone sent the
Japanese PSIA employee list to JYA.
Please note that Shigeo Kifuji is the head of the Public Security
Investigation Agency, or the PSIA. Obviously, he is not the person who has
been
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> > Clearly, Mr. Anonymous has an issue, but so do I,
> > and I don't call for Hillary or Chelsea to be
> > killed just because I don't like what Bill is
> > doing.
>
> Take a trank, Ern! You're jumping to way too
> many conclusions
At 3:32 PM -0700 7/21/00, Ernest Hua wrote:
>The point is that Mr. Anonymous publish what is
>clearly INTENDED to be their home addresses.
>
>These addresses may turn out to be totally bogus,
>but that does not excuse the INTENT.
>
Where was the righteous indignation when my home address and my
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if the group is still active somewhere in town. The listserv for the group
was being hosted at netcom but appears t
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>They may have wives and/or family! Stay the fuck
Oh, and when they break in citizenry houses and screw up
their family life, it's OK ? Because they work for the state ?
Or do you, fuckhead (it seems that you react well to foul
language), think that impounding someone's property does
not affect
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http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,37718,00.html
FBI Pressuring Spy Archivist
by Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
10:00 a.m. Jul. 21, 2000 PDT
The FBI wants to delete a Japanese intelligence document from a
U.S. website.
Two special agents on Thursday contacted online archivist Joh
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 04:36:22PM -0700, spot wrote:
> It seems to be chic to attack American society these days, when
> in reality, if a society has to be on the top of the pile, I would far
> prefer it to be American over Chinese/Russian Communism. That's not
> Ameri-centricism, thats just me
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/8327/
Title: RE: FBI Requests File Removal
You make some good points. After giving it more
thought, I think that the agents should be reported to their superiors and that
John should explain to them that he takes their "threat" seriously and that he
is doing just what he has done, making it public.
>The FBI did not seek a court order, which is the legal way to
>(sometimes) quash speech. Rather, it applied extra-legal pressures.
I happen to come from an euro country where authorities worked
solely by FUDding, Kafka-style. That is the strongest mode of reign
available.
It appears that civil
At 12:23 PM -0400 on 7/21/00, Trei, Peter wrote:
> Me too.
In theory, we're going to have a fundraiser for John at DCSB. We've been
threatening to, but not "terroristically" enough, I guess, ;-), for a very
long time. We even threatened to do one last month, but I hadn't had time
to do a proper
Special Agent James Castano said the call he made to me
was his first for matter like that. He was friendly, open, answered
all my questions the best he could, and asked others if he didn't
know. We chatted about the DeCSS trial here in NY. His unit he
said deals with computer crime, IP violation
At 4:22 PM + 7/21/00, Gil Hamilton wrote:
>Tom Roach writes:
>>First, we know about Carnivore, or think we do. What earthly good is it
>>to put the agent's names in the public domain? Unless you planned to do
>>something cruel, evil or harmful to people "doing their job" it would
>>serve no us
Can you explain digital signing? e
At 8:29 AM -0700 7/21/00, Ernest Hua wrote:
>Hmmm ... I will have to totally (but respectfully) disagree.
>
>The underlings are not necessarily just delivering a friendly
>reminder in this case.
>
>Threats are generally considered not just in poor taste, but
>real criminal offenses, when it comes
> --
> From: Patrick Henry[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> John Young wrote:
>
> > Therefore I shall publish the names of the two Special Agents
> > who spoke with me at:
> >
> > http://cryptome.org/fbi-psia.htm
>
> Holy shit!
>
> I think we all owe John a tremendous gratitude
Tom Roach writes:
>First, we know about Carnivore, or think we do. What earthly good is it
>to put the agent's names in the public domain? Unless you planned to do
>something cruel, evil or harmful to people "doing their job" it would
>serve no useful purpose.
I disagree. What part of "doing the
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>What earthly good is it
>to put the agent's names in the public domain? Unless you planned to do
>something cruel, evil or harmful to people "doing their job" it would
>serve no useful purpose.
I don't consider anyone working for the U.S. government in a capacity to take
away Constitutionally-p
Title: RE: FBI Requests File Removal
Hmmm ... I will have to totally (but respectfully) disagree.
The underlings are not necessarily just delivering a friendly
reminder in this case.
Threats are generally considered not just in poor taste, but
real criminal offenses, when it comes from so
John Young wrote:
> Therefore I shall publish the names of the two Special Agents
> who spoke with me at:
>
> http://cryptome.org/fbi-psia.htm
Holy shit!
I think we all owe John a tremendous gratitude. There are plenty of us (yours
truly included) who talk the talk but don't walk the walk.
I would like to know how to make a simple bomb, or just stink bomb! If anyone
can help me, please mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]!
Få din egen gratis email på http://www.mail.forum.dk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>You're right, it's not a societal problem. That's why government shouldn't
>(and very probably, won't) get involved...
>
>it's an ECONOMIC problem.. for about the 400th time, there are "other"
>forces in this universe than just code and law...
[snip]
>privacy (CFIP and
one example of privacy laws stopping big brother government:
http://www.telepolis.de/tp/english/inhalt/te/8412/1.html
Title: RE: FBI listening in on Emails
Hi all,
> well there is some rumor that it could be China or russia!
Damn... OK, so Americans are extremely parochial, arrogant and (very often) stupid (where else in the world do you find such a concentration of stupidity as AOL?). I think all these
Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tried a "who" on cyberpass about a year ago, it didn't work.
I tried it three years ago, two years ago and last month. It worked
each time.
> Food for thought, that all the CDR's now have the "who" enabled. Does
> the word "compromised" belong in that previ
> Dave Marzigliano & James Castano
This is what Internet was all about. Authugrities cannot beat lone
individuals into submission that easy any more.
And it becomes crystal clear why, in few short years, one will
need a state license for web publishing.
Off to start collecting donations for JYA
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