Gore's next move

Gore has dispatched 50 staffers from Tennessee to Palm Beach County, contacted lobbyists in the area regarding raising $3 million in funds, petitions challenging the vote due to the bad form are being circulated, and, ugh, I forget. A legal challenge to the Palm Beach County vote seems to be in t

Re: Phil Zimmerman Profiled

At Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:29:57 -0800, "James D. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Meet Phil Zimmermann, creator of the Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) >encryption suite and one of the world's best-known cryptographers. Why was this article about encryption posted on this US presidential elektion disc

Re: Courts interfering with election

>TimMay wrote: >#I thought I was jaded, but this is too much even for me to believe. ># >#A judge in St. Louis has ordered the polls kept open later, until 10 >#pm local time. The effect will be to let more inner city, >#Democrat-leaning voters vote. > >What a lame-ass complaint. >

Re: Well, that's over. Heads up, America!

>> differ nobody believes them anyway. (Is Bush really saying, as his Tory >> acolytes over here in Britain are, that you can cut taxes *and* increase >> pubic spending? Does anyone take that seriously enough to factor it in > >I think you mean "public". Actually this is possible if cutting t

Re: Phil Zimmerman Profiled

At 2:01 AM -0500 11/9/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >At Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:29:57 -0800, "James D. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > >>Meet Phil Zimmermann, creator of the Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) >>encryption suite and one of the world's best-known cryptographers. > >Why was this article about

PGP on the Palm Pilot.

Hi, Could send me where I can find more explanation about PGP using on a Palm Pilot. Best Regard, Jacques GARSOUS Network Engineering Glavinfo E-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tél + 32 2 658 05 32 Mobile +32 476 40 97 93 Glavinfo E.I.G. Vandammestraat 7, Bus 2 B-1560 Hoeilaart Belgium

One question about pgp-integration

I've read the pgp-integration man page, and tried to implement the sample codes using the system calls. The encryption example was ok, but the decryption sample code I wasn't able to make it work well. Whenever I ran the program I got a core file, when the program try to open the second stream to

Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!

I haven't found such a requirement in Florida law. See below. -Declan ... In counties where paper ballots are used, each elector shall be given a ballot by the inspector. Before delivering the ballot to the elector, one of the inspectors shall write his or her initials or name on the stub at

Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!

It would be simpler, and probably fairer (in a general sense) to discard those ballots that are suspect. Elections such as this should not be re-run. Take it down to its most general form. Gore and Bush are tied. My ballot was mangled during processing and is unreadable; I successfully sue for a

Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!

Declan, King of the Wired, wrote: #TO VOTE for a candidate whose name is printed on the ballot, #mark a cross (X) in the blank space at the RIGHT of the name #of the candidate for whom you desire to vote. To vote for a #candidate whose name is not printed on the ballot, write th

Re: Phil Zimmerman Profiled

> these days. However, he sees his contribution as critical, believing > that "encryption software architectural decisions must be made by > knowledgeable cryptographers, not software engineers." He has very > firm opinions, for example, about Gnu Privacy Guard (GnuPG), an open > source competitor

Where is Jim Bell?

Declan; Why haven't you found out yet what happened to Jim Bell? Certainly you could ask questions of Portland PD, whatever, or his mom, find out what they've done with him. This is certainly a newsworthy item. Squelching free speech by terrorizing dissedents is what it's all about.

Stars' bank details revealed on Internet

So, boys and girls, which do you think is safer, bearer cash and negotiable securities stored anonymously all over the net in m-of-n hashes, or in a single bank account -- regardless of jurisdiction, for the sake of argument -- with web access? See? I knew you could... Cheers, RAH -

Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!

And the lawsuit has been filed. http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB973731700780133282.htm # #November 9, 2000 # #Lawsuit to Recover Lost Gore Votes Overshadows the Recount in #Florida # #By GLENN R. SIMPSON, JACKIE CALMES and CHAD TERHUNE Staff #Reporters of

Close Elections and Causality

* In a close, nearly-tied election, should a re-vote be allowed? * In a close sports game, should all potential "fork" decisions (referee calls) be reviewed and the game rolled-back...even hours later? Should critical plays be re-played the next day? * Did the woman who voted at 9 a.m. but wh

Reporting weirdness: Hagelin vs. Browne

On CNN I watched the election results coming in. They always listed four candidates: Bush, Gore, Nader, and Hagelin. The usual format was Bush/Gore on the "crawl" at the bottom of the screen and then a second page with the crawl having Nader/Hagelin. Sometimes Buchanan was listed. It sure lo

RE: Close Elections and Causality

Title: RE: Close Elections and Causality Thanks Tim.  (First, I genuinely appreciate the specificity.  Now we can discuss just where we disagree.) Given your points, one would have to argue that the proper election would have to be extremely simultaneous (e.g. everyone votes within 1 hour or

RE: Close Elections and Causality

At 9:43 AM -0800 11/9/00, Ernest Hua wrote: >Thanks Tim. (First, I genuinely appreciate the >specificity. Now we can discuss just where we >disagree.) > >Given your points, one would have to argue that >the proper election would have to be extremely >simultaneous (e.g. everyone votes within 1 ho

Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!

Amusing. But that's a suggested ballot, and not one that's legally required. Which was my point. At the very least, the law is not as clear as the Dems want to claim. -Declan On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 11:42:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Declan, King of the Wired, wrote: > #TO VOTE fo

The Butterfly Effect

Devil's Dictionary, 2005 edition: "Butterfly Effect: Wherein the use of a "butterfly ballot" having candidates listed on either side of a central column was claimed to have confused some elderly Jewish voters in Palm County, Florida and thus was used by lawyers as an excuse to take full contr

Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!

At 10:42 AM 11/9/00 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: >It would be simpler, and probably fairer (in a general sense) to discard >those ballots that are suspect. Elections such as this should not be >re-run. > >Take it down to its most general form. Gore and Bush are tied. > My ballot was mangled duri

Re: Reporting weirdness: Hagelin vs. Browne

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Tim May wrote: > On CNN I watched the election results coming in. They always listed > four candidates: Bush, Gore, Nader, and Hagelin. The usual format was > Bush/Gore on the "crawl" at the bottom of the screen and then a > second page with the crawl having Nader/Hagelin.

Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!

Jim Burnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: #I could stomach 'might be illegal', but illegal? Warren Christopher was just on TV, calling the ballot illegal. Let's leave it at that until a court decides. Spooky Cypherpunk Niggar Tim May Moroned: #And, of course, Palm County will _not_ be

Re: Close Elections and Causality

At 09:02 AM 11/9/00 -0800, Tim May wrote: [lots of good comments on causality] >-- Someone will say that a highway being closed prevented them from >getting to the polling place in time, and that there additional vote >"would have made the difference." They want a re-vote. A few years ago

Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!

Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: # #However, FL 101.5609 is a much clearer point against #the "must be to the right" claims. # #101.5609(6): # Voting squares may be placed in front of or in back of the names # of candidates and statements of questions and shall be of

Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!

Spooky Cypherpunk Niggar Tim May Moroned: #When I hear Jesse Jackson saying that unless the Palm Beach voters #are given the chance to have a new vote there will be a race war, I #rejoice. # #I was just reading in misc.survivalism that some folks in Florida are #saying that

Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!

On Thu, 09 Nov 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Spooky Cypherpunk Niggar Tim May Moroned: > #When I hear Jesse Jackson saying that unless the Palm Beach voters > #are given the chance to have a new vote there will be a race war, I > #rejoice. > # > #I was just reading in misc.survi

Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!

Warren Christopher, the arbiter of truth? Right... -Declan On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 05:24:53PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jim Burnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > #I could stomach 'might be illegal', but illegal? > > Warren Christopher was just on TV, calling the ballot illegal. > Let

The Canine Excrement Effect

The Canine Excrement Effect : whereupon having stepped squarely into a fresh heap, the weary traveller experiences an epiphany and declares, "whether it's on my right foot or my left is irrelevant, it's foul and it stinks" then proceeds to perform an erratic twisting, sliding dance across the gras

Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!

Huh? Tim has been posting such articles for years. You weren't around for the Y2K discussions. -Declan On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 05:58:11PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Spooky Cypherpunk Niggar Tim May Moroned: > #When I hear Jesse Jackson saying that unless the Palm Beach voters > #

Re: Reporting weirdness: Hagelin vs. Browne

On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 11:40:10AM -0800, Alan Olsen wrote: > Browne was the un-canidate in this election. The press went out of their > way to avoid mentioning or reporting on him in any way, shape or form. Yes, and no. We profiled him at Wired; I mentioned him in about seven articles. LA Times

Democrats are arguing for "statistical sampling voting"

Democrat spinners are now talking up the idea of using "statistical sampling" to assign some fraction of the spoiled ballots to Al Gore. Not a surprise, given that it was the Democrats who wanted to augment the "direct count" of the U.S. Census with "statistical fudge factors." I never thoug

Re: Where is Jim Bell?

At 8:50 AM -0800 11/9/00, A. Melon wrote: >Declan; >Why haven't you found out yet what happened to Jim Bell? Certainly you >could ask questions of Portland PD, whatever, or his mom, find out what >they've done with him. >This is certainly a newsworthy item. Squelching free speech by terror

Re: Democrats are arguing for "statistical sampling voting"

I suggest that we find one county for each state that we believe to be representative, let them vote, and then extrapolate from their results and assign electors accordingly. Or perhaps one household per state. I volunteer Tim and his cats to to represent California. I know the way Nietzsche woul

Bush campaign responds to Florida county controversy

On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 04:22:21PM -0800, Tim May wrote: > At 7:05 PM -0500 11/9/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >James "too damn bad about the 19,000" Baker > >ain't no piece of cake either, FYI. > > He's right about the "19,000 spoiled ballots." Four years ago there > were 16,000 spoiled ba

No Subject

--- Does anybody have a stego program along the lines of Peter Wayner's Mimic Functions? I'm looking for something that you can hand a grammar and a set of bits that will produce sentences in the grammar, plus a decoder that

Re: Democrats are arguing for "statistical sampling voting"

At 8:55 PM -0500 11/9/00, Declan McCullagh wrote: >I suggest that we find one county for each state that we believe to be >representative, let them vote, and then extrapolate from their results >and assign electors accordingly. > >Or perhaps one household per state. I volunteer Tim and his cats to

Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!

Do these folks need killing too? At 07:22 PM 11/9/00 , Tim May wrote: > > >Fact is, voting is serious business. Those who show up dazed and >confused and punch too many holes in their ballot are an example of >social Darwinism. > >I have no sympathy for stupid people. >

Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!

- Original Message - From: "Tim May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Fact is, voting is serious business. And this election is more serious than most others. The possible exile of Alec Baldwin depends on the votes of a few hundred senile Flordians. Ick.

BSA deploys imaginary pirate software detector vans

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Re: Reporting weirdness: Hagelin vs. Browne

TCMay writes: > On CNN I watched the election results coming in. They always listed > four candidates: Bush, Gore, Nader, and Hagelin. The usual format was > Bush/Gore on the "crawl" at the bottom of the screen and then a > second page with the crawl having Nader/Hagelin. In fact, Browne did b

RE: Reporting weirdness: Hagelin vs. Browne

> -- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 3:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Reporting weirdness: Hagelin vs. Browne > > TCMay writes: > > On CNN I watched the election result

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