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I hate to break this to you, but members of this List are heavily
concerned with preserving privacy, and sometimes even anonymity.
Responding to your survey is as contrary to their nature as
vegetarianism is to a tiger.
Marc de Piolenc
Praveen Badiga wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am a masters student i
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, dmolnar wrote:
> > Isn't this a description of Hawala?
>
> Maybe. I regret I'm not familiar with Hawala. I'll go google it.
Gee, it's even in the cypherpunks archives. Sorry, everyone.
Yes, as described sure sounds similar. The point of doing it over PayPal
would just be
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:57:23AM -, Anonymous wrote:
> Supposing you and others were willing to pay Nomen a modest sum for this
> service, how could you do so using Paypal or Amazon, and allow him to
> retain his anonymity?
Ah, but I never said I'd pay for it -- I said it might be a better
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:45:57PM -0500, dmolnar wrote:
> BBSes seem special in that the resources available are so *drastically*
> limited. A BBS with one phone line could serve one user at a time. When
> one person is on, nobody else has a shot. So a BBS without upload/download
> ratios runs th
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Isn't this a description of Hawala?
Maybe. I regret I'm not familiar with Hawala. I'll go google it.
-David
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Anonymous wrote:
> than using your Visa card because only the seller learns your address
> rather than a centralized agency that knows all of your purchases.
> But it's hardly worth it.
A friend of mine was considering a business plan for physical remailer+
"infomediary" for
Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Yet another cypherpunk idiocy, the idea that the government is scurrying
> about trying to get information on cryptography out of libraries. A
> good example of the narrow focus and lack of reasoning on the part of
> cypherpunks.
>
> The government is trying to make it h
John Young wrote:
>
> The LA Times report makes fair points but much of the
> information being removed from selected repositories is
> available elsewhere, as previously discussed here.
>
> An example is the removal of info on dams and reservoirs.
> That is widely available elsewhere, as shown
Tim May wrote:
> "We are prepared to bomb Manila in order to root out terrorism," he
> might as well have said.
The capital is a long way from the nasties; they're closer to my
neighborhood (Mindanao).
> The PI chick prez is promising more cooperation in the war on terrorism,
> so look for more
Isn't this a description of Hawala?
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, dmolnar wrote:
> On 21 Nov 2001, Anonymous wrote:
>
> > Supposing you and others were willing to pay Nomen a modest sum for this
> > service, how could you do so using Paypal or Amazon, and allow him to
> > retain his anonymity?
>
> On
On 21 Nov 2001, Anonymous wrote:
> Supposing you and others were willing to pay Nomen a modest sum for this
> service, how could you do so using Paypal or Amazon, and allow him to
> retain his anonymity?
On the off chance that this isn't rhetorical, because at least one way of
doing this seems s
> Not all women are golddiggers. I happen to think any woman who marries
> for money or sleeps around for gifts and dinners is worse than a whore.
> As the old saw goes, at least real prostitutes are honest about what they're
> doing.
>
> The only "abstracted value" I find really intriguing is t
> Capitalism is a natural result of free people.
The ultimate argument. Like in "natural" and "unnatural" sex
=
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The MAIN reason (and I agree that it's work-ability is a good secondary
reason, and I like the comment about cavemen finding it 'cause its shiny)
gold is used as a medium of exchange is because it is SCARCE.
If a modern day alchemist figured out how to easily turn lead into gold, it
would become
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Declan McCullagh writes:
> I don't mean to take issue with much of what Anonymous writes, but
> some of the examples mentioned can be taken care of adequately by
> existing payment systems.
>
> Using Amazon's payment system (they have two types, voluntary and
> pay-for-content), a webmaster can c
Marc de Piolenc writes:
> Presumably, the reports to be destroyed include everything to do with
> crypto.
> ...
> Not only is the government removing much material from its websites it
> is also asking depository libraries (which are sent government reports
> free) to remove and destroy many gove
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I don't mean to take issue with much of what Anonymous writes, but
some of the examples mentioned can be taken care of adequately by
existing payment systems.
Using Amazon's payment system (they have two types, voluntary and
pay-for-content), a webmaster can charge as low as $1, I believe, for
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David wrote:
George wrote:
>>5) Gold makes women sleep with you. I don't know why they
>>like it, but they do.
>They sleep with you because of your large cattle herd only they
>have accepted abstracted value and settle for gold or stocks...
Not al
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Hi,
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out my questionnaire.You can either download a
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At 09:19 PM 11/19/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
>C-A-C-L's would let people die from thirst before interfering in a 'free
>market'. Others would say screw the market and give that man a drink.
No, a libertarian would say "screw anyone who'd initiate force
against me to make me to do this" and then
At 07:03 PM 11/19/01 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On 19 Nov 2001, at 17:40, Tim May wrote:
>
>> On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 05:03 PM, David Honig wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes, but what this thread has ignored is that gold (and other
>> > densely precious things) were valued *in and of themselves*
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Some thoughts on digital cash.
First, using anonymous cash to purchase physical goods online means giving
up much of the benefit from the anonymity. If you have to give a delivery
address, they obviously know who you are. It's still slightly better
than using your Visa card because only the sel
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At 6:00 PM -0500 11/20/01, dmolnar wrote:
>Does anyone happen to know of real-world current examples like this, in
>which some aggregator buys and sells a commodity on an exchange, then
>turns around and offers it at a flat rate to end users?
I think my electric company does this each month with
On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Tim May wrote:
> Any system involving units of Mojo, or understanding of auction models,
> etc. is hampered. And any system that has only a tiny fraction of what
> Napster had at its peak is hit with the "So what?" factor. And the Fax
> Effect kicks in--few users, not as many
> Ryan and the other HavenCo folks deserve *massive* kudos for this.
> (now, when is the HavenCo remailer going online? :-)
The remailer has been up since 16 September 2001, and was announced to
this list among others. http://remailer.havenco.com/
Next thing coming is "mail.havenco.com" with:
Well, if google controls usenet history, why wouldn't a violence monopoly control logs
and the history of the lands it ... controls ? (for all practical purposes the
government is a corporation with a very effective PR department and pesuasive means,
which it uses to successfuly convince custom
The IRS is currently EXPANDING to deal with
UNPAID tax cases, it's just a matter of time
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Every day your unpaid Past Taxes are costing you MORE in
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:04:00PM -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, alphabeta121 wrote:
>
> > what does C-A-C-L stand for?
>
> Crypto-Anarcho-Capitalist-Libertarian
>
> It's the recognition that these approaches to social engineering are
> united by a shared interest in maximum p
At 05:23 PM 11/19/2001 -0500, Duncan Frissell wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
>
> > Won't work on Berkeley, though. The City Council declared Berkeley a
> > "Nuclear Free Zone." Guess that leaves only conventional weapons.
>
>Those restrictions usually also prohibit the *desig
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