Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-28 Thread Ken Brown
James A. Donald wrote: Harmon Seaver: Why not the army? If it was only the executives and a handful of highly qualified specialists, you would not need the army. Strikers are mostly oil industry. And better-paid workers, technicians, engineers so on. They might include safety

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-28 Thread Ken Brown
James A. Donald wrote: Harmon Seaver: Why not the army? If it was only the executives and a handful of highly qualified specialists, you would not need the army. Strikers are mostly oil industry. And better-paid workers, technicians, engineers so on. They might include safety

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-24 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 05:53:04PM -0800, James A. Donald wrote: Perhaps they are exercising their will over the facilities of production and distribution by CIA microwaves beamed into people's brains :-) Given the general knownothing, lockstep mentality exhibited by the Bushites, that

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-23 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 23 Jan 2003 at 9:48, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 09:38:47AM -0800, James A. Donald wrote: If it was only the executives and a handful of highly qualified specialists, you would not need the army. Of course you would. Look, once again, this isn't a normal

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-23 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 09:38:47AM -0800, James A. Donald wrote: If it was only the executives and a handful of highly qualified specialists, you would not need the army. Of course you would. Look, once again, this isn't a normal strike, this is a conspiracy of traitors working with an

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-23 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 23 Jan 2003 at 9:48, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 09:38:47AM -0800, James A. Donald wrote: If it was only the executives and a handful of highly qualified specialists, you would not need the army. Of course you would. Look, once again, this isn't a normal

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-22 Thread James A. Donald
-- Harmon Seaver: Well, but only a strike of the executives and some technicians. Not of the general workers. James A. Donald: When they bring out the army against the strikers as well as foreign scab labor, it is the workers. Harmon Seaver: Nope, not a chance. Most

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-22 Thread James A. Donald
-- Harmon Seaver: Well, but only a strike of the executives and some technicians. Not of the general workers. James A. Donald: When they bring out the army against the strikers as well as foreign scab labor, it is the workers. Harmon Seaver: Nope, not a chance. Most

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-21 Thread James A. Donald
-- Harmon Seaver: Well, but only a strike of the executives and some technicians. Not of the general workers. James A. Donald: When they bring out the army against the strikers as well as foreign scab labor, it is the workers. Harmon Seaver: Nope, not a chance. Most of the

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-21 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 05:44:59PM -0800, James A. Donald wrote: -- Harmon Seaver: Well, but only a strike of the executives and some technicians. Not of the general workers. James A. Donald: When they bring out the army against the strikers as well as foreign scab labor,

Re: CDR: Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-21 Thread Marc de Piolenc
Harmon Seaver wrote: It's pretty clear by now that last Spring's attempted coup and the current strike was all engineered by the CIA and the current whitehouse scum. Chaves must be a pretty decent guy if he's not rounding up all those bozos who were making the trips to DC just before the

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-21 Thread James A. Donald
-- Harmon Seaver: Well, but only a strike of the executives and some technicians. Not of the general workers. James A. Donald: When they bring out the army against the strikers as well as foreign scab labor, it is the workers. Harmon Seaver: Nope, not a chance. Most of the

CDR: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela,

2003-01-20 Thread Matthew X
There's a theory that Ayn Rand and Robert Heinlein had anal sex and nine hours later,Mongo poopped out...I don't buy that as I suspect he is a clone of cali survivalist,Leonard Lake but neither theory has been confirmed. Look Steve,if Chavez gets you hot and bothered so much then why not put a

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 11:10:52PM -0800, Steve Schear wrote: A recent news article described the nationwide strike in Venezuela, in protest against the nascent dictatorship of Hugo Chavez, as seeming like something from fiction. Well, yes, it seems very similar to one work of fiction in

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
Here's a couple of articles that seem a bit more balanced: http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/01/1561494.php http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41444-2003Jan11.html -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 05:56:26PM -0800, James A. Donald wrote: On 20 Jan 2003 at 10:42, Harmon Seaver wrote: Well, but only a strike of the executives and some technicians. Not of the general workers. When they bring out the army against the strikers as well as foreign scab labor, it

Re: CDR: Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-20 Thread Marc de Piolenc
Harmon Seaver wrote: It's pretty clear by now that last Spring's attempted coup and the current strike was all engineered by the CIA and the current whitehouse scum. Chaves must be a pretty decent guy if he's not rounding up all those bozos who were making the trips to DC just before the

Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-20 Thread Steve Schear
A recent news article described the nationwide strike in Venezuela, in protest against the nascent dictatorship of Hugo Chavez, as seeming like something from fiction. Well, yes, it seems very similar to one work of fiction in particular: Ayn Rand's prophetic 1957 novel, Atlas Shrugged. The

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 11:10:52PM -0800, Steve Schear wrote: A recent news article described the nationwide strike in Venezuela, in protest against the nascent dictatorship of Hugo Chavez, as seeming like something from fiction. Well, yes, it seems very similar to one work of fiction in

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 08:32:30AM -0800, James A. Donald wrote: -- On 20 Jan 2003 at 7:20, Harmon Seaver wrote: It's hard to tell from the US media reports what's really going on. Is the nation-wide strike a strike of the workers or just a lockout of the workers by the companies

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-20 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 20 Jan 2003 at 7:20, Harmon Seaver wrote: It's hard to tell from the US media reports what's really going on. Is the nation-wide strike a strike of the workers or just a lockout of the workers by the companies opposed to Chaves? Given his popularity with the lower class, it's

Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-19 Thread Steve Schear
A recent news article described the nationwide strike in Venezuela, in protest against the nascent dictatorship of Hugo Chavez, as seeming like something from fiction. Well, yes, it seems very similar to one work of fiction in particular: Ayn Rand's prophetic 1957 novel, Atlas Shrugged. The