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J.A. Terranson wrote:
Which of course neatly sidesteps the issue that a DRIVERS LICENSE is
not identification, it is proof you have some minimum competency to
operate a motor vehicle...
IIRC, several states have taken to issuing a no compentency driving
licence (ie, the area that says what that
Riad S. Wahby wrote:
...except (ta-d) the passport, which is universally accepted by
liquor stores AFAICT.
And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification
purposes?
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification
purposes?
Probably not all that many.
Tangentially, I was once told that, at least in Massachusetts liquor
stores, even an _expired_ passport was useful identification. Can
anyone
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 10:09:26AM -0500, Riad S. Wahby wrote:
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification
purposes?
Probably not all that many.
Tangentially, I was once told that, at least in Massachusetts liquor
stores,
Right, just because your Passport or driver's license expired, doesn't
mean that you got any younger and therefore shouldn't drink.
--Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos---
+ ^ + :Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. /|\
\|/ :They
]
To: Cypherpunks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:09:26 -0500
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification
purposes?
Probably not all that many.
Tangentially, I
In both houses, the legislation is geared to respond to numerous
recommendations made by the Sept. 11 commission. For years before the
terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, law enforcement officials, especially
those concerned with identity theft, argued that the states should have
more
J.A. Terranson wrote:
Which of course neatly sidesteps the issue that a DRIVERS LICENSE is
not identification, it is proof you have some minimum competency to
operate a motor vehicle...
IIRC, several states have taken to issuing a no compentency driving
licence (ie, the area that says what that
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Few liquor stores (for example) accept anything else.
..except (ta-d) the passport, which is universally accepted by
liquor stores AFAICT.
Imagine that. An _actual_ document of identification being used for
approximately the correct purpose.
--
Riad S.
Riad S. Wahby wrote:
...except (ta-d) the passport, which is universally accepted by
liquor stores AFAICT.
And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification
purposes?
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification
purposes?
Probably not all that many.
Tangentially, I was once told that, at least in Massachusetts liquor
stores, even an _expired_ passport was useful identification. Can
anyone
Right, just because your Passport or driver's license expired, doesn't
mean that you got any younger and therefore shouldn't drink.
--Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos---
+ ^ + :Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. /|\
\|/ :They
]
To: Cypherpunks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:09:26 -0500
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And how many americans have a passport,and carry one for identification
purposes?
Probably not all that many.
Tangentially, I
http://nytimes.com/2004/10/11/politics/11identity.html?pagewanted=printposition=
The New York Times
October 11, 2004
Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses
By MATTHEW L. WALD
ASHINGTON, Oct. 10 - Following a recommendation of the Sept. 11 commission,
the House and Senate
In both houses, the legislation is geared to respond to numerous
recommendations made by the Sept. 11 commission. For years before the
terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, law enforcement officials, especially
those concerned with identity theft, argued that the states should have
more
http://nytimes.com/2004/10/11/politics/11identity.html?pagewanted=printposition=
The New York Times
October 11, 2004
Congress Close to Establishing Rules for Driver's Licenses
By MATTHEW L. WALD
ASHINGTON, Oct. 10 - Following a recommendation of the Sept. 11 commission,
the House and Senate
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/01/22/infiltration_of_files_seen_as_extensive/
WASHINGTON -- Republican staff members of the US Senate Judiciary
Commitee infiltrated opposition computer files for a year, monitoring
secret strategy memos and periodically passing on copies to the
Major Variola (ret.)wrote:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/01/22/infiltration_of_files
_seen_as_extensive/
WASHINGTON -- Republican staff members of the US Senate Judiciary
Commitee infiltrated opposition computer files for a year, monitoring
secret strategy memos and
At 06:02 AM 11/25/2003 -0800, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
Especially for domains, it's important to do some validation,
though in the absence of widely-deployed DNSSEC, it's hard to
do automatically.
DNSSEC is not happening, [...]
We do not need DNSSEC, we just need a notice in the DNS.
It
Hallam-Baker, Phillip [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DNSSEC is not happening, blame Randy Bush and the IESG for refusing the
working group consensus and imposing their own idea that cannot be deployed.
An experimental protocol that increases the volume of data in the .com zone
by an order of magnitude
Do you have any more details on this for those who don't
normally follow DNSSEC?
It is a sad story. Politics and the magic circle. If people are wondering
why the major industry players have abandoned the IETF read on. This is only
one example of the type, other companies have similar issues.
Hallam-Baker, Phillip [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DNSSEC is not happening, blame Randy Bush and the IESG for refusing the
working group consensus and imposing their own idea that cannot be deployed.
An experimental protocol that increases the volume of data in the .com zone
by an order of magnitude
Do you have any more details on this for those who don't
normally follow DNSSEC?
It is a sad story. Politics and the magic circle. If people are wondering
why the major industry players have abandoned the IETF read on. This is only
one example of the type, other companies have similar issues.
Especially for domains, it's important to do some validation,
though in the absence of widely-deployed DNSSEC, it's hard to
do automatically.
DNSSEC is not happening, blame Randy Bush and the IESG for
refusing the working group consensus and imposing their own
idea that cannot be deployed.
At 04:20 PM 11/21/2003 -0800, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
We need to consider the technical workings of the do-not-spam list and the
requirements that we would like the FTC to meet.
.. [reasonable goals] ... [hashed-form lists instead of plaintext]...
5) Allow domain name owners to list their
Especially for domains, it's important to do some validation,
though in the absence of widely-deployed DNSSEC, it's hard to
do automatically.
DNSSEC is not happening, blame Randy Bush and the IESG for
refusing the working group consensus and imposing their own
idea that cannot be deployed.
: [Politech] Congress finally poised to vote on
anti -spam bill [sp]
We need to consider the technical workings of the do-not-spam
list and the
requirements that we would like the FTC to meet.
I propose as a minimum:
1) Allow individual subscribers to list their email addresses
At 04:13 PM 11/21/2003 -0600, Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A copy of the bill is here:
http://news.com.com/pdf/ne/2003/FINALSPAM.pdf
I interpret paragraph 1037(a)1 - 5 as possibly prohibiting the use of
anonymous remailers, or proxies and nyms in registering email accounts, for
the
We need to consider the technical workings of the do-not-spam list and the
requirements that we would like the FTC to meet.
I propose as a minimum:
1) Allow individual subscribers to list their email addresses with the
service.
2) Permit mail sender to quickly determine whether a given email is
[...]
' 1037.
(a) IN GENERAL.Whoever, in or affecting inter- 23
state or foreign commerce, knowingly 24
November 21, 2003 (2:42 p.m.)
13
(1) accesses a protected computer without au- 1
thorization, and intentionally initiates the trans- 2
mission of multiple commercial electronic mail
At 04:13 PM 11/21/2003 -0600, Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A copy of the bill is here:
http://news.com.com/pdf/ne/2003/FINALSPAM.pdf
I interpret paragraph 1037(a)1 - 5 as possibly prohibiting the use of
anonymous remailers, or proxies and nyms in registering email accounts, for
the
We need to consider the technical workings of the do-not-spam list and the
requirements that we would like the FTC to meet.
I propose as a minimum:
1) Allow individual subscribers to list their email addresses with the
service.
2) Permit mail sender to quickly determine whether a given email is
: [Politech] Congress finally poised to vote on
anti -spam bill [sp]
We need to consider the technical workings of the do-not-spam
list and the
requirements that we would like the FTC to meet.
I propose as a minimum:
1) Allow individual subscribers to list their email addresses
Date: Jul 14 - 17, 2003
Location: Washington, D.C.
Event Name: Congress and the Intelligence Community
Event Sponsor: The Government Affairs Institute at Georgetown University
Event Description: Open to Civilian and uniformed employees (GS-11 and
above or military equivalent) from any department
BRC calls for total opposition to the war and for renewed renewed resistance
BLACK RADICAL CONGRESS
BRC calls for total opposition to the war and for renewed renewed resistance
The War against the peoples of Iraq has started. This is one phase of the
war for imperial dominance. In simple terms
Congress silent on
war | By Ross K. Bake | 15/03/2003
Debates rage nearly everywhere about the wisdom of America's
imminent resort to war: in the British House of Commons, the Turkish
Parliament, the UN Security Council, in city council chambers nationwide
and among friends over coffee
Censoring the Internet
he Supreme Court heard arguments last week in a case that will help shape
the degree to which free speech prevails in cyberspace. To qualify for
federal funds, libraries are required to block access to pornographic Web
sites. This means that the law, in effect, coerces
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 07:39:03PM +, Adam Back wrote:
As far as evolutionary pressures, aggressive and fast driving is far
more dangerous, however adrenaline inducingly fun that may be.
(ke =1/2.m.v^2). Also exposed or unduly light vehicles -- motorbikes,
light built cars like
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 07:39:03PM +, Adam Back wrote:
As far as evolutionary pressures, aggressive and fast driving is far
more dangerous, however adrenaline inducingly fun that may be.
(ke =1/2.m.v^2). Also exposed or unduly light vehicles -- motorbikes,
light built cars like
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:31:45PM -0800, Bill Frantz wrote:
At 8:32 PM -0800 2/20/03, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
[Aside] I recently learned that back before you needed a license to drive
(ca 1930)
you would manually adjust the spark timing (!!) according to your engine
speed.
After
Bill Frantz wrote:
And, I still am willing to work on my brake systems. Replacing pads
on a disk brake unit is a lot easier than replacing drums.
Agree it's easier, and there is very little to get wrong changing disk
brakes -- remove a couple of bolts, using some leverage push the
pistons
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 11:32:43PM -0500, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Carburetor? Didn't that connect to the phonograph through a cat's whisker?
Carburetor is French for leave it alone.
While only one of my cars is old enough to have a carb, all but one of
the 10 or so motorcycles in the
--- Adam Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as evolutionary pressures, aggressive and
fast driving is far
more dangerous, however adrenaline inducingly fun
that may be.
Depends on one's strategy. When riding a motorcycle,
there are two aggressive driving principles I observe
at all
(This is mostly ruminations on car hacks
and adds little to the original thread about physically
linking responsibility to effects.)
First let me ack my sincere respect for folks like
Eric C who work on (rather than tinker/hack/meddle,
since he's still alive) their car's brakes or other
Back when the term hackers started to be misused by the press,
as in scary teenage vandals breaking into computers,
my usual comment was that teenage computer hackers were really
no different from the teenage car hackers of our parents' generations.
They did a lot of tinkering with machinery and
At 8:32 PM -0800 2/20/03, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
[Aside] I recently learned that back before you needed a license to drive
(ca 1930)
you would manually adjust the spark timing (!!) according to your engine
speed.
After handcranking the engine to start.
Yes, and you got a broken arm if you
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 11:32:43PM -0500, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Carburetor? Didn't that connect to the phonograph through a cat's whisker?
Carburetor is French for leave it alone.
While only one of my cars is old enough to have a carb, all but one of
the 10 or so motorcycles in the
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:31:45PM -0800, Bill Frantz wrote:
At 8:32 PM -0800 2/20/03, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
[Aside] I recently learned that back before you needed a license to drive
(ca 1930)
you would manually adjust the spark timing (!!) according to your engine
speed.
After
--- Adam Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as evolutionary pressures, aggressive and
fast driving is far
more dangerous, however adrenaline inducingly fun
that may be.
Depends on one's strategy. When riding a motorcycle,
there are two aggressive driving principles I observe
at all
Back when the term hackers started to be misused by the press,
as in scary teenage vandals breaking into computers,
my usual comment was that teenage computer hackers were really
no different from the teenage car hackers of our parents' generations.
They did a lot of tinkering with machinery and
(This is mostly ruminations on car hacks
and adds little to the original thread about physically
linking responsibility to effects.)
First let me ack my sincere respect for folks like
Eric C who work on (rather than tinker/hack/meddle,
since he's still alive) their car's brakes or other
At 8:32 PM -0800 2/20/03, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
[Aside] I recently learned that back before you needed a license to drive
(ca 1930)
you would manually adjust the spark timing (!!) according to your engine
speed.
After handcranking the engine to start.
Yes, and you got a broken arm if you
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:27:31PM -0500, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Hackers don't work on their own brakes for a reason: evolution.
I do. That way I know they were done right.
Specialization is for insects.
Eric
Steve, you proposed that the deskhoes (congresshits, NASA managers)
take the risks that they put others into.
I mentioned this to my Dad and he reminded me that parachute
packers in the military were required to jump with the
chutes they packed at any time.
...
Hackers don't work on their own
Steve, you proposed that the deskhoes (congresshits, NASA managers)
take the risks that they put others into.
I mentioned this to my Dad and he reminded me that parachute
packers in the military were required to jump with the
chutes they packed at any time.
...
Hackers don't work on their own
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/02/11/2124229.shtml?tid=103
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We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I
are going to spend the rest of our lives.
Criswell,
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1106-979623.html
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We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I
are going to spend the rest of our lives.
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http://slashdot.org/articles/02/05/04/220237.shtml?tid=117
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Re: FC: Valenti to Congress: 350,000 movies pirated online every day!
http://www.politechbot.com/p-03433.html
Just a few months ago we learned that one of Americas most prestigious
and preeminent universities, vexed by the burden of heavy persistent
student use of its computer system
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,51041,00.html
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Are we to have a censor whose imprimatur shall say what books
shall be sold and what we may buy?
/0,1283,50363,00.html
Cybercrime Bill Ups the Ante
By Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
2:00 a.m. Feb. 12, 2002 PST
WASHINGTON -- Some forms of illegal hacking would be punished by life
imprisonment under a proposal that Congress will debate on Tuesday.
Unless
On Tuesday, January 15, 2002, at 11:31 AM, Eric Murray wrote:
Probably not. I haven't seen the spec so I'm not 100% sure, but
this is the info I dug up after 10 minutes of googling.
http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-9904.html
And the Mobitex protocol used by ARDIS and RAM mobile for
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:10:39 -0500
From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FC: FBI refuses to tell Congress aide about classified Magic Lantern
Background on Magic Lantern:
http
On Sun, 9 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On 10 Dec 2001, at 16:20, mattd wrote:
Was it Chomsky who pointed out that the capitalist firm is
structured like a totalitarian state?
The difference is that you can change firms, or start your
own, without being shot.
Which comes
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Declan,
The authoritarian streak is wide and deep ain't it? Every time I hear
Bush talk about protecting freedom I feel nauseous.
Which bill?
Is this bill referring to annyone carrying cash within the borders or to
people crossing the borders?
There are already customs regulations with a $10k
From one of the anti-terror bills said to be a sure bet to pass both
chambers. Typos mine. --Declan
---
If a financial institution... reports a suspicious transaction to a
government agency the financial institution, director, officer, employee,
or agent may not notify any person involved
:-)
At 08:48 PM 10/01/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
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From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FC: Congress drafts new anti-terror bill -- with expiration date
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 20:32:57
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's nice that the proposal has a sunset clause in it,
to limit the amount of time that we're subject to the
various good or bad half-baked suggestions and the various
agencies' requests for powers they've always wanted.
Expect
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 01:09:50PM -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:
It's nice that the proposal has a sunset clause in it,
to limit the amount of time that we're subject to the
various good or bad half-baked suggestions and the various
agencies' requests for powers they've always wanted.
Expect
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 08:49:34PM +, Ian Goldberg wrote:
Note that (if I'm reading it right) the sunset only applies to Title I
(the Internet surveillance bits), and not, for example, to the hacking
is terrorism bits in Title III (section 309). The sunset also applies
Ian: I think
There are numerous changes in PATRIOT from MATA and ATA,
and it has over twice their length. It still uses the same
obfuscation style of burying dozens of proposals as modifications
of existing legislation, making it hard to understand what is
being proposed without jigsaw puzzling the pieces
John Young wrote:
USA. USA.
Remember, do not say out loud, fuck that. Think abou it,
then decide to self-suppress for a couple of years, then
a couple more, then more after that. It's a long, long campaign
the leaders warn, just like their predecessors said the main
enemy is within.
Quoting Duncan Frissell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
During the 20th century government employees murdered 170 million people.
During the 20th century everyone else murdered 20 million people. A word to
the wise...
Looks like the laity have some catching up to do.
Regards,
Steve
--
Oldthinkers
At 08:17 AM 9/29/01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The correct response is to wipe down the highly visible mold
with dilute bleach solution, then leave a window cracked open
whenever you see condensation.
Or live in a house made of real materials instead of wallboard.
Or live in a cold
.
-ryan
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Duncan Frissell
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 9:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Alert! Congress to target TOXIC MOLD!
At 08:17 AM 9/29/01 -0700
It's beginning to look more and more like Tim is absolutely right.
There are just one fuck of a lot of people in this country that really,
seriously, need killing. It is utterly amazing how quickly, because
of one incident, all these leaders are jumping thru the trash
the Constitution hoop.
Actually Congress is calming down just a little. I'm not saying they're
going to do the right thing -- just look at them taking the Echelon-
anti-4A bill seriously -- but there is opposition to the most radical
approaches:
http://www.wartimeliberty.com/article.pl?sid=01/09/20/198219
-Declan
It's beginning to look more and more like Tim is absolutely right.
There are just one fuck of a lot of people in this country that really,
seriously, need killing. It is utterly amazing how quickly, because
of one incident, all these leaders are jumping thru the trash
the Constitution hoop.
: Congress mulls crypto restrictions in response to attacks
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46816,00.html
Congress Mulls Stiff Crypto Laws
By Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
1:45 p.m. Sep. 13, 2001 PDT
WASHINGTON -- The encryption wars have begun.
For nearly
On Thursday, September 13, 2001, at 01:58 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46816,00.html
Congress Mulls Stiff Crypto Laws
By Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
1:45 p.m. Sep. 13, 2001 PDT
WASHINGTON -- The encryption wars have begun
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46816,00.html
Congress Mulls Stiff Crypto Laws
By Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
1:45 p.m. Sep. 13, 2001 PDT
WASHINGTON -- The encryption wars have begun.
For nearly a decade, privacy mavens have been worrying
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20839.html
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Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night:
God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light.
At 01:40 AM 8/2/2001 -0700, Alan Olsen wrote:
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
It would be worth it to go just for the purpose of asking what they were
going to do about cereal killers.
You mean those who put ketchup on their corn flakes ;-)
steve
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
At 02:52 PM 8/1/01 -0400, Trei, Peter wrote:
Politicians have too much trouble justifying their
existence to let a chance like this slip through.
Hahahaha. Actually, I'm starting to feel sorry for politicans, especially
the folks in Congress
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Steve Schear wrote:
At 01:40 AM 8/2/2001 -0700, Alan Olsen wrote:
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
It would be worth it to go just for the purpose of asking what they were
going to do about cereal killers.
You mean those who put ketchup on their corn
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
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