Re: Using RFC 821 to despam open relays.

2003-03-24 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 10:29:36AM -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: > If the mail server introduces an increasing delay (similar > to the backoff mechanism in Ethernet) to it's response after the > first 2 RCPTs, the server becomes useless for sending spam. > Similarly, it could slow it's response if the

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-24 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 05:41:09PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: > This is dire lunacy. Currently US is perceived as an agressor by the > majority of the world, including the so-called ally U.K. which has lent > more than just its name. You will see an unprecedented surge in terrorism > in the heart of

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-24 Thread Bill Frantz
At 7:05 PM -0800 3/24/03, Declan McCullagh wrote: >Or perhaps we'll see someone take a GPS-controlled small plane, which >can carry 1,000 lbs, and turn it into a flying bomb or delivery system >for something quite noxious. These planes can be rented by the hour at >hundreds of small to medium sized

Re: About Christers versus Ragheads

2003-03-24 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 04:32:47PM -0800, Tim May wrote: > Speaking of the Christers and their strange beliefs (about Rapture, > Tribulation, Second Coming, etc.) versus the beliefs of Muslims, I > prefer neither. As an atheist (agnostic, but only in the sense that I'm > "agnostic" that the laws

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-24 Thread Tim May
On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 08:11 PM, Bill O'Hanlon wrote: Both of these ideas get used in Martin Caidin's book "Deathmate"... (If you're old enough, you might remember the "Six Million Dollar Man" TV series. Caidin was the author of the book that was used for that series.) It's a bit old, but

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-24 Thread Bill O'Hanlon
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 10:05:24PM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: > > I'm still > predicting radio-controlled helicopters (or RC planes, which could carry > a far greater load). > > Or perhaps we'll see someone take a GPS-controlled small plane, which > can carry 1,000 lbs, and turn it into a fly

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-24 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 07:28:41PM -0800, Bill Frantz wrote: > The simplest autopilots just keep the wings level. Almost equally common > are ones that can follow a radio location signal (VHF Onmi-Range (VOR) > usually). Altitude hold is less common, as are autopilots that can follow > an Instrum

Re: About Christers versus Ragheads

2003-03-24 Thread Neil Johnson
On Monday 24 March 2003 06:32 pm, Tim May wrote: > can be destroyed, ushering in the the Rapture and Christ's Dominion on This whole "rapture" bit always amused me. Rapture isn't even mentioned in the Bible. It's all based on TWO (count'em TWO) verses in the New Testament. Mathew Chapter 24 v

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-24 Thread Tim May
On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 07:28 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: At 7:05 PM -0800 3/24/03, Declan McCullagh wrote: Or perhaps we'll see someone take a GPS-controlled small plane, which can carry 1,000 lbs, and turn it into a flying bomb or delivery system for something quite noxious. These planes can b

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-24 Thread Anonymous
Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Or perhaps we'll see someone take a GPS-controlled small plane, which > can carry 1,000 lbs, and turn it into a flying bomb or delivery system > for something quite noxious. These planes can be rented by the hour at > hundreds of small to medium size

RE: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-24 Thread Lucky Green
Eugen wrote: > This is dire lunacy. Currently US is perceived as an agressor > by the majority of the world, including the so-called ally > U.K. which has lent more than just its name. You will see an > unprecedented surge in terrorism in the heart of homeland > soon after this campaign is over

Re: Spammers Would Be Made To Pay Under IBM Research Proposal

2003-03-24 Thread Eric S. Johansson
Status: RO Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 22:04:16 -0800 To: Jamie Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Steve Schear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Spammers Would Be Made To Pay Under IBM Research Proposal Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:01 PM 3/21/2003 -0500, Jamie Lawrence wrote: On F

Budget deficits don't matter when the Rapture is coming

2003-03-24 Thread Tim May
On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 10:19 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Cyanide would work quickly, and you'ld get caught. Ricin takes a day for symptoms. Fat chance. Eurotrash doesn't even raise a ruckus about them AWACS and Fuchs crews, nevermind strongly su

Re: The spam problem (was: re:fwd:re:cdr:etc.)

2003-03-24 Thread Eric S. Johansson
R. A. Hettinga wrote: --- begin forwarded text Unless MTAs can reject mail for lack of postage, this approach will not fix a large majority of the problems of spam. Unless clearing is built into the protocol, sender pays is a non-starter. I agree that there are lots of good reasons for sender-pays

Who's afraid of Mallory Wolf? (fwd)

2003-03-24 Thread Eugen Leitl
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:10:22 -0500 From: Ian Grigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Who's afraid of Mallory Wolf? Who's afraid of Mallory Wolf? By common wisdom, SSL is designed to defeat the so-called "Man in the Middle" attack, or M

Re: The spam problem (was: re:fwd:re:cdr:etc.)

2003-03-24 Thread Steve Schear
At 05:12 PM 3/23/2003 -0500, Jamie Lawrence wrote: >On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Steve Schear wrote: > > > >Unless MTAs can reject mail for lack of postage, this approach will not > > >fix a large majority of the problems of spam. Unless clearing is built > > >into the protocol, sender pays is a non-starte

Re: Ricin Stout

2003-03-24 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > Cyanide would work quickly, and you'ld get caught. Ricin takes > a day for symptoms. Fat chance. Eurotrash doesn't even raise a ruckus about them AWACS and Fuchs crews, nevermind strongly suggesting to shut down US army bases or even dare thinkin

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-24 Thread James A. Donald
-- Harmon Seaver: > > > Not inside the cities they can't, not without tons of > > > collateral damage, which will crucify Dubbya and Blair. James A. Donald: > > No one (except the US military which hopes to rule an > > intact Iraq) least of all the protestors, care how many > > Iraqis get kill

Re: Using RFC 821 to despam open relays.

2003-03-24 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 10:29 AM -0500 on 3/24/03, Trei, Peter writes of the noble Foregone Alternative (see .sig, below...): > it would save open relays, which are a social > good in the absence of spam. Kewl. Somebody like John Gilmore, one of the more vocal exponents thereof, could try it out on toad.com and se

Most Americans believe Hussein the mastermind behind 9/11

2003-03-24 Thread Tyler Durden
Pretty amusing. Beyond Doublethink, as not even the US government claims this... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=127&ncid=742&e=7&u=/ucru/20030320/cm_ucru/the_moron_majority -TD _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail

Re: Budget deficits don't matter when the Rapture is coming

2003-03-24 Thread Tyler Durden
Tim May wrote... "the Jews will be destroyed and sent to Hell, and then JC will rise out of Babylon or Yonkers or someplace and will reign as King for 1000 years, at which point the Earth will be destroyed." Not exactly. At the last minute (ie, before Armageddon wrecks just about everything),

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-24 Thread Tyler Durden
James Donald wrote... "perhaps the most effectual thing the US could do to prevent future random terror attacks is to round up one hundred million. innocents and slaughter the lot. Everyone loved the commies for doing that, so if the US wants to be loved, perhaps it needs to do the same." What t

Small arms and helicopters

2003-03-24 Thread Thomas Shaddack
Just watching news. A fully-armed Apache was reportedly downed by an Iraqi farmer. This could highlight the importance of private "assault" weapon ownership for an effective homeland defense. Or one of the reasons why the Law Enforcement Occupation Forces, often quite heavily relying on helicopter

DEF CON Announcement: CFP, Media now on line! (fwd)

2003-03-24 Thread Eugen Leitl
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:06:46 -0800 From: The Dark Tangent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DEF CON Announcement: CFP, Media now on line! Hello everyone, I would like to make several DEF CON related announcements. The Call For Papers fo

RE: Unauthorized Journalists to be shot at

2003-03-24 Thread Trei, Peter
> Ken Brown[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > This has now happened - Terry Lloyd one, of Britain's better-known > reporters, seems to have been killed by US marines. According to the > cameraman he was picked up by Iraqi ambulance, so its a fair bet they > weren't embedded in the COW (thanks for

Re: Budget deficits don't matter when the Rapture is coming

2003-03-24 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 11:18:00AM -0800, Tim May wrote: (snip) > > However, his church (and related churches...I don't know how many) > believe that the Jews are serving God by being part of Prophecy. I may > have the timelines wrong, but as I understand it the Plan is that the > Israelites wi

Re: Unauthorized Journalists to be shot at

2003-03-24 Thread Ken Brown
This has now happened - Terry Lloyd one, of Britain's better-known reporters, seems to have been killed by US marines. According to the cameraman he was picked up by Iraqi ambulance, so its a fair bet they weren't embedded in the COW (thanks for the acronym, Tim) http://www.itv.com/news/236548.ht

Re: Budget deficits don't matter when the Rapture is coming

2003-03-24 Thread Tim May
(This hasn't appeared at my site, despite being sent long before messages that did, so I'm sending it again.) On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 03:42 PM, Tim May wrote: On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 02:14 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote: America is God's Nation. America will help the Jews rebuild the Tem

[IP] Google Phone Search sparks Privacy Concerns (fwd)

2003-03-24 Thread Eugen Leitl
Anyone willing to use this on Ashcroft & Co, and publish the results? -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:10:31 -0500 From: Dave Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [IP] Google Phone Search sparks Privacy Concerns I deleted mine djf --

Re: Spammers Would Be Made To Pay Under IBM Research Proposal

2003-03-24 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 07:31:34PM -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: > The providing of a token allowing computationally-free passage to verified > subscribers is trivial to implement. Agreed. My point, perhaps awkwardly-worded, is that it's important from the perspective of mailing list operators to

Re: What shall we do with a bad government...

2003-03-24 Thread Ken Brown
Vincent Penquerc'h wrote: > > > Tim - I don't think the cowboy (aka Shrubya) knows enough economics to > > realize that, in the long term, income and expenditure must > > be in some kind > > of rough balance. He's always been able to lean on daddy's money. > > I'm wondering whether the successiv

Avenues for paying off politicians (and others)

2003-03-24 Thread Tim May
This actually has some Cypherpunks/crypto/digital money relevance. (Not that general comments about Iraq and statism are "off-topic.") For many years we have talked about the many alternative ways to make payments without violating tax codes or similar rules. A classic example is that of sel

Orwell is proud

2003-03-24 Thread Tim May
"The Coalition of the Willing." "The Axis of Evil." It's interesting to see the Pentagon referring to Iraqi defense measures as "illegal" and to see them whining that some of those they fight are not dressed in official uniforms. Note also the yapping about the Geneva Convention and how Iraq m

Adam Osborne, RIP

2003-03-24 Thread Bill Stewart
-- Forwarded Message From: Lee Felsenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:39:36 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Adam Osborne RIP I have just been interviewed with a reporter from Reuters for an obituary of Adam Osborne, who apparently died recently in southern India. Adam ha

Re: Ricin Stout

2003-03-24 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Eugen Leitl wrote: > What I don't understand is how at projected 2004 US deficit of 307 G$ -- > not counting already happened capital losses of 1.1 T$ in trading and > projected 1.9 T$ worst case overall costs anyone is expecting the US > economy, and shortly's the world's not

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-24 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, James A. Donald wrote: > If the US trys to avoid civilian casualties, this is not out of > fear and weakness. Indeed, when we observe the recent past, it > seems that it is failure to commit sufficient murder that > provokes these attacks. The US does not suffer bad Th

Re: Most Americans believe Hussein the mastermind behind 9/11

2003-03-24 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 02:25 PM 3/24/03 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: >Pretty amusing. Beyond Doublethink, as not even the US government claims >this... > >http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=127&ncid=742&e=7&u=/ucru/20030320/cm_ucru/the_moron_majority > Its the result of a stack overrun. People have limi

Ricin Stout

2003-03-24 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 09:13 PM 3/23/03 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: > Yup, I wouldn't even be a bit surprised to see Europeans, non-muslim, I mean, >starting to off the GI's over there. Drop a little cyanide or ricin in a guy's >beer in the pub... Cyanide would work quickly, and you'ld get caught. Ricin takes a da

Re: Using RFC 821 to despam open relays.

2003-03-24 Thread R. A. Hettinga
--- begin forwarded text Status: RO From: Barry Shein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:15:16 -0500 To: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Using RFC 821 to despam open relays. This is a little like suggesting to the military that filling small bronze tubes with gunpow

Re: Budget deficits don't matter when the Rapture is coming

2003-03-24 Thread Tim May
On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 02:14 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote: America is God's Nation. America will help the Jews rebuild the Temple. America will conquer the Babylonians. America will watch as the Israelites are destroyed, perhaps shedding a small tear as the Christkillers are sent to Hell. The

Re: Things are looking better all the time

2003-03-24 Thread Bill Stewart
At 07:36 PM 03/23/2003 -0800, James A. Donald wrote: No one (except the US military which hopes to rule an intact Iraq) least of all the protestors, care how many Iraqis get killed. Who recollects how many Iraqis were killed the last time around? James, I agree with you more often than I disagree w

Re: Budget deficits don't matter when the Rapture is coming

2003-03-24 Thread randall-flagg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >>Tim May wrote... >>"the Jews will be destroyed and sent to Hell, and then JC will rise out of Babylon or Yonkers or someplace and will reign as King for 1000 years, at which point the Earth will be destroyed." >Not exactly. At the last minute (ie,

Re: pgp in internet cafe (webpgp)

2003-03-24 Thread Sunder
And (dumbass) you would trust the keyboard and display of an internet cafe is safe to type in your passphrase? Never heard of keystroke capturing? You're better off trying to find a WiFi access point - i.e. Starbucks or whatever cafe and using that instead with your own trusted hardware. That sa

About Christers versus Ragheads

2003-03-24 Thread Tim May
Speaking of the Christers and their strange beliefs (about Rapture, Tribulation, Second Coming, etc.) versus the beliefs of Muslims, I prefer neither. As an atheist (agnostic, but only in the sense that I'm "agnostic" that the laws of thermodynamics represent reality), I have use for neither.