Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 00:52:29 -0600, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >A tiny fuel cell that detects the alcoholic breath of a drink-driver >and calls the police has been developed by a team of engineers at >Texas Christian University. A pump draws air in from the passenger >cabin, a platinum catalyst con

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I wonder what the effect would be in states like WI which don't require auto insurance. Insurance is noticably cheaper here than in MN which does require it. On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 01:25:05PM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: > At 08:52 AM 03/10/2003 -0500, david <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Su

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On Sunday 09 March 2003 18:16, A.Melon wrote: > On Sunday 09 March 2003 10:31 am, david wrote: > > Neither you nor anyone else has the right to force me or any > > other individual to subsidize your welfare. > > > > This device, if forced on individuals by a government entity, > > would violate fou

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At 08:52 AM 03/10/2003 -0500, david <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 09 March 2003 18:16, you [whoever that was?] wrote: > On Sunday 09 March 2003 10:31 am, david wrote: > > Neither you nor anyone else has the right to force me or any > > other individual to subsidize your welfare. > > > > This

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On Sunday 09 March 2003 18:16, you wrote: > On Sunday 09 March 2003 10:31 am, david wrote: > > Neither you nor anyone else has the right to force me or any > > other individual to subsidize your welfare. > > > > This device, if forced on individuals by a government entity, > > would violate fourth

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On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 02:56:36PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm not crazy about everything that the government does, but there > are trade- offs in a non-perfect society. One of them is monitoring > the innocent to, in turn, attempt to prevent the guilty from > trampling over everything,

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david wrote: But you wouldn't mind if insurance companies required the device in order for you to get a policy (whether or not it called the police or just the insurance company) ? Right ? If I did mind, I'd just find a different insurance company. It's a little bit harder for me to say, "I don

Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:31:40 -0500 (est), Sunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Screw that - just buy a few thousand of these little devices, disable them >so that they're always transmitting "drunk driver" and install them in >politicians' cars all over DC (make sure you install'em in cop >cars too.)

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On Sunday 09 March 2003 10:31 am, david wrote: > Neither you nor anyone else has the right to force me or any other > individual to subsidize your welfare. > > This device, if forced on individuals by a government entity, would > violate fourth amendment protections against self-incrimination. > DU

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On Friday 07 March 2003 00:52, gann wrote: > A tiny fuel cell that detects the alcoholic breath of a > drink-driver and calls the police has been developed > I'm in favor of it Neither you nor anyone else has the right to force me or any other individual to subsidize your welfare. This de

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> Fuck you and fuck the man. I don't need any electronic snitch in my > car. Do you? If you do, maybe you're in need of professional help! Hey! Keep him alive! :) If he's genuine, he can serve as a study material for observing the Adversary-sympathetic mindset. Think zoo, or a lab animal. Th

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- Original Message - From: "Dan Veeneman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:42 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police > I had an acquaintance years ago that always kept a bottle of cologne > in the

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On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 12:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would fairly entertain said discussion. Erle http://ganns.com You're on the wrong list here for at least four reasons: 1. You're spamming us with some idea I have a hunch you are connected with in some way. 2. You're a statist.

Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:50 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police > - Original Message - > F

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- Original Message - From: "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police > False positives: What about folks with vinegar on their breath? I thi

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le content instead of scraping the bottom of the vocabulary barrel. - Original Message - From: "Sunder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Sycophantic Boot Licker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:28 PM Subject:

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On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 Sycophantic Fascist Troll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> farted: > You seem to be such a hopeless case that I don't even know where to start. Oh, but I do know where you could start! Leaving this list would be a great start, but in your case, I'd recomend that you get totally drunk and th

Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

At 02:56 PM 3/7/03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I'm not crazy about everything that the government does, but there are trade- >offs in a non-perfect society. One of them is monitoring the innocent to, in >turn, attempt to prevent the guilty from trampling over everything, Allah willing. Wrong

Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 Sycophantic Boot Licker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not crazy about everything that the government does, but there are trade- > offs in a non-perfect society. One of them is monitoring the innocent to, in > turn, attempt to prevent the guilty from trampling over everythi

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Wow, easy there, chief. I think you have some aggression you may want to let a professional address. Besides that... I'm not crazy about everything that the government does, but there are trade- offs in a non-perfect society. One of them is monitoring the innocent to, in turn, attempt to prevent

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At 2:56 PM -0500 on 3/7/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Wow, easy there, chief. You're new here, aren'tcha? :-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may des

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:43 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police > > > > I don't guess you read the article. It answers at least your first > question. > > > > An

Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

At 09:28 AM 03/07/2003 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 12:52 AM 3/7/03 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >A tiny fuel cell that detects the alcoholic breath of a drink-driver >and calls the police has been developed by a team of engineers Would you buy one if you're drunk? Would you put one in

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than getting caught drunk driving? -p - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police > I don't gu

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At 12:52 AM 3/7/03 -0600, you wrote: A pump draws air in from the passenger cabin, a platinum catalyst converts any alcohol to acetic acid, which then produces a current proportional to the concentration of alcohol in the air. I had an acquaintance years ago that always kept a bottle of cologne i

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I don't guess you read the article. It answers at least your first question. Another option to breathing through a tube might be to not drink alcohol before driving. Wow, you know... deterring people from drinking and driving might be a favorable side effect of this public-monitoring, informatio

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Actually, read the article. It covers sober driver and drunk passengers. Quoting Bill Frantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > At 10:52 PM -0800 3/6/03, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >A tiny fuel cell that detects the alcoholic breath of a drink-driver and > calls > >the police has been developed by a team o

Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

At 12:52 AM 3/7/03 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >A tiny fuel cell that detects the alcoholic breath of a drink-driver and calls >the police has been developed by a team of engineers at Texas Christian >University. A pump draws air in from the passenger cabin, a platinum catalyst >converts any a

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Good job. You just caused law enforcement to ignore emitters from all cabs, government, and police vehicles. My guess is that the unit will perform a self-check and emit a "broken" signal instead of "drunk". Maybe the police will only pull over "broken" vehicles not listed above, knowing that b

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So you hook it up to a wad of cotton dipped in Jack... Whatever. Fuck Big Brother. Fuck it in the ass until it squeals, then fuck it some more. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :NSA got $20Bil/year |Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \

Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

At 10:52 PM -0800 3/6/03, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >A tiny fuel cell that detects the alcoholic breath of a drink-driver and calls >the police has been developed by a team of engineers at Texas Christian >University. A pump draws air in from the passenger cabin, a platinum catalyst >converts any

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Screw that - just buy a few thousand of these little devices, disable them so that they're always transmitting "drunk driver" and install them in politicians' cars all over DC (make sure you install'em in cop cars too.) You can also leave them in cabs. They'll be banned immediately. ---

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ggc> University. A pump draws air in from the passenger cabin, a platinum catalyst ggc> converts any alcohol to acetic acid, which then produces a current ggc> proportional to the concentration of alcohol in the air. A chip analyses the ggc> data, and if it is too high, turns on a wireless transmit