At 12:34 PM 12/14/03 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
At 11:52 AM 12/13/03 -0500, John Kelsey wrote:
..
One interesting property of the lone warriors is that they can't
actually make peace.
Good points, but not entirely true. For instance, we could stop the
Jihad (tm) (including future Jihads by
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 06:59:59PM -0500, John Kelsey wrote:
us. Maybe they will, maybe they won't, but our foreign policy ought to be
made based on what is in our long-term best interest (our meaning
American citizens); realistically, terrorist attacks are a fairly small
part of that
(resend)
At 11:52 AM 12/13/03 -0500, John Kelsey wrote:
At 09:19 AM 12/12/03 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
...
You need to think about the lone warrior scenario that the Gang
worries about. McVeighs and Rudolphs.
They were influenced by memes which were not immediately suppressed.
One
From: Thomas Shaddack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, John Kelsey wrote:
Of course, there's a more fundamental problem with surrendering to the lone
warriors. Imagine that there's such a wave of pro-life terrorism that we
finally agree to ban abortion. You're a fanatically
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, John Kelsey wrote:
Of course, there's a more fundamental problem with surrendering to the lone
warriors. Imagine that there's such a wave of pro-life terrorism that we
finally agree to ban abortion. You're a fanatically committed pro-choice
activist. What's your next
It was discovered a while back, check the archives, or Tim's
FAQ, that all the remailers were compromised, with or without
the operator's complicity with TLAs. After that discovery there
was a turning of the covert control to re-direct it toward its
implementer(s). That was soon re-turned by the
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 03:40:07AM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Nomen pondered:
Why robbing banks? Aside from allowing the
government to regulate them, what have they
done to deserve being robbed
Why not? Revolutionaries need money, and the financial sector
A question for the moment might well be how many if any of
the remailers are operated by TLAs?
does it matter?
Anonymous wrote:
A question for the moment might well be how many if any of
the remailers are operated by TLAs?
At 09:19 AM 12/12/03 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
..
You need to think about the lone warrior scenario that the Gang
worries about. McVeighs and Rudolphs.
They were influenced by memes which were not immediately suppressed.
One interesting property of the lone warriors is that they can't
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 06:49:15PM +0100, Anonymous wrote:
A question for the moment might well be how many if any of
the remailers are operated by TLAs?
The community is small enough so that the fraction must be in low 10% at
worst.
What'd be interesting to know how secure the remailer
From: An Metet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The devil is in details.
Given small numbers and absence of any other grouping factor there needs to be an
obvious place for ZPs to refer to. Any obvious place that becomes even remotely
attractive to ZPs will be immediately raided.
If you mean a
The devil is in details.
Given small numbers and absence of any other grouping factor there needs to be an
obvious place for ZPs to refer to. Any obvious place that becomes even remotely
attractive to ZPs will be immediately raided. Because ZPs have potential to be
actually dangerous to the
At 10:12 PM 12/11/03 -0500, An Metet wrote:
Given small numbers and absence of any other grouping factor there
needs to be an obvious place for ZPs to refer to. Any obvious place
that becomes even remotely attractive to ZPs will be immediately raided.
Because ZPs have potential to be actually
At 9:19 AM -0800 12/12/03, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Look at Al Q, Inc: you don't need explicit instructions from the Boss to
motivate folks to do things.
You see who is the enemy, you see opportunity. You don't need
permission.
Yup. That's the way Reagan operated, too.
I'm just finishing up
Another excellent group of potential recruits are prisoners.
Especially if you can create a new religious movement teaching
them to stop the interracial, intergang fighting and concentrate
on their true enemy, the Man. Teach that killing cops, soldiers,
any type of government agent, is a holy
At 02:07 PM 12/11/03 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote:
It's worth noting that despite over a decade of this rhetoric,
not a single terminally ill American has done this, so far as I
am aware.
Well, I think for most terminal illnesses, by the time it's obvious you're
really not going to live much longer,
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The devil is in details.
Given small numbers and absence of any other
From: John Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 02:07 PM 12/11/03 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote:
It's worth noting that despite over a decade of this rhetoric,
not a single terminally ill American has done this, so far as I
am aware.
Well, I think for most terminal illnesses, by the time it's obvious
Nomen pondered:
Why robbing banks? Aside from allowing the
government to regulate them, what have they
done to deserve being robbed
Why not? Revolutionaries need money, and the financial sector has
always been asshole buddies with the police, politicians, and other pigs.
LEO John Kelsey whined:
Well, I think for most terminal illnesses, by the time it's obvious you're
really not going to live much longer, you're pretty damned sick. And until
then, you'd probably like to make some personal use of what days or weeks
you have left doing something like talking
Anonymous wrote:
Nomen pondered:
Why robbing banks? Aside from allowing the
government to regulate them, what have they
done to deserve being robbed
Why not? Revolutionaries need money, and the financial sector has
always been asshole buddies with the police, politicians, and
From: J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Anatoly Vorobey wrote:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 12:47:27AM +0100, edo wrote:
With the USA
becoming the world's most totalitarian state in disguise...
That's a pretty silly thing to say.
Sure you don't want to educate
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nothing less than a guerilla war seems necessary to restore
something akin to the original constitutional balance in the
U.S. But where to recruit these people? My suggestion: the
terminally ill.
Many TI come to the table with a 'gift', the certainty of
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