' Tyler Durden, whatever the hell that means.)
Is peaceful change, etc... possible? I'd like to think so. However, there
may come a point where peaceful solution is really just a lazy dream
designed to permit us to ignore our responsibility...
There may be a third option, of which crypto is a part
Tim May wrote...
To _this_ American, namely, me, it is apparent that Pax Americana is the
goal. By my definition of rule, then, yes, America wants to rule much of
the world. No, they don't want to micromanage the details. But they
certainly want pliable governments that will not be _too_
In modern times we have the names of Chinese people and cities changing as
different methods of transcribing Chines to English gain favor -- Peking
became Beijing, and Mao Tse Tung became Mao Zedong.
Well, I disagree with the implications here. At least with Chinese names the
new
What Chomsky says below is no suprise to most of those on this list,
left/right/other. What IS of interest is that fact that a universal
consensus seems to be emerging about the US's role in the world, and Chomsky
articulates this sentiment.
-TD
(from www.zmag.org)
IRAQ
Noam Chomsky ,
It was so simple! They should have done this years ago...
Reminds me of a friend that was on a standards commmittee. The committee
generated a time requirement for some kind of satellite signal to be sent,
and the requirement meant that light speed would be broken.
In response, my friend wrote
The other was an actual change in the name of the
city, from Northern Plains to Northern Capitol.
This analysis doesn't explain everything. Modern Mandarin (which into its
current form early in the 20th century), along with its linguistic northern
predecessor has no sound such as king, though
Having sat on Pacific Coast Highway below the takeoff path of LAX jumbo
jets, I can attest to the fact that they are literally just a few hundred
feet above. Any van with a moonroof could trivially be set up to allow a pop
shot at one of these 747s or 767s, leaving every couple of minutes.)
Tim May wrote...
Where did this of color nonsense get started?
Like a lot of PC terms...from guilt-ridden white liberals. Black folks never
use this term, as far as I've ever heard. Likewise with physically
challenged. My black karate Sensei used to periodically laugh at the shame
and
Sarad wrote...
For a moment think of all the iraqi's with power
grids taken out now enjoying the 120+ farenhiet sun. A
few hours of luxury was gone and it was breaking news
in bbc.
Although I appreciate the sentiment, your not really getting this. The
timing was such that long-term impact was
Tim May is the perfect example why vigilante justice is
generally considered to be a bad thing -- stupid assholes
like Tim May spout off take action based on paranoia
instead of facts principles of anarchy instead of justice
and innocent parties get hurt.
Well, on one hand taking justice into
Dave Howe wrote...
Tim May wrote:
Reading about the Romanian student arrested today for allegedly
releasing one of the Blaster variants, I was struck by how easy it
would be to bring a shitstorm down on someone by inserting comments
into the virus code.
oh joy - yet another way to joe-job
Peter Thonen wrote..
On that same note, any weekend warrior who complains about being activated
has
no sympathy from me.
Take the devils coin, be prepared to do his work also.
Well, what if the Devil stole that $ from you in the first place? What level
of subversion is appropriate in order to
building don't actually work! Otherwise,
keep on bleeding the beast...
-TD
From: Thoenen, Peter CIV Sprint
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: US soldiers in Iraq held against their will
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 19:20:15
Yeah, kinda bizarre.
There's also an ambiguity that prevents one from saying Q is associative. Is
the table defined for both directions of *? In other words, is the table
meant to imply values for both x*y (ie, left*top) as well as y*x (top*left)?
For most objects x*y will not equal y*x
So...
how many people does one have to terrorize in order to be a terrorist?
PS: Anyone else getting tired of the term terror? Back when we all hated
Osama bin Laden (remember that guy?) Osama was promoted from Terrorist to
terror mastermind to lord of terror and so on. I'm sick of being told
Tim May wrote...
If cops ask local neighborhood members to report any suspicious activity,
the folks know that any benefits they gain from acting as informants tend to
be a lot smaller than the danger of being beat up or even killed by the
Mafia.
When the cost of acting as an informant is
..in cahoots with the authorities?
In other words, lets say I leave my house for an extended period of time,
and they tell the Alarm Monitoring company to shut down for a while so
they can protect our freedoms. (I assume this is the way they would go about
installing various things in one's
Get tagged as a Red, perhaps based on intelligence like Usenet postings,
mailing list activity, political activity, and airlines are ordered to bar
use of their services. And arrest follows.
Serves you right. You and your constant criticisms of our divine and
God-appointed protectors and
' crapper to make sure
no terrorists get me while I'm on the can.
-TD
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Gutmann)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fatherland Security agents above the law?
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:10:24 +1200
Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The Fatherland
I think that it's becomming clear that in order for Americans to feel safe
US troops should morph into an international Police force. Next stop:
Indonesia!
-TD
The ABCNEWS suitcase containing the uranium was placed in a teak trunk
along with other furniture put in a container in Jakarta,
Tim May wrote...
The questions being asked of Jim may have to do with the Feds making the
only prosecution they can make: that those passing on such threats via
mailing lists are somehow guilty of some crime. This is just speculation on
my part.
I thought the Feds questions to Jim Choate had
Although something deep down in my gut would LIKE to push this guy into a
trash compactor, it seems particularly odd that the courts/society view this
writing as somehow equating with impending action. Actually, it's quite
possible that these writings might be the very thing preventing him from
Matt Gaylor wrote...
That's what free people have and that's one of the reason's I'd never
move to Canada. Naturally my car got searched with a fine toothed comb, but
I
added I wouldn't be stupid enough to bring my pistol. I spent considerable
effort cleaning my car of any stray ammo, thinking
I no longer consider 9/11 a terrorist act.
Fuck. I've been nearing a similar conclusion, though from an entirely
different, uh, line of approach. Though I don't consider having quite
crossed that line yet.
I guess in the end we are responsible for the actions our government takes.
And if we
Got a crypto question here.
Let's say I push out a list I'd like to keep secret to some client machine.
The user of that machine must enter some ID or other piece of information. I
want the client machine to perform a search of that ID vs the contents of a
list (again, resident locally on that
?
Sarath.
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess in the end we are responsible for the
actions our government takes.
And if we remain ignorant and continue to benefit
(and do nothing to stop
it), then we are responsible, particularly when our
military represents an
outrageously
Don't forget that in ancient greece the populace could vote any leader into
exile.
My brother believes we should be able to vote any publically elected
official directly into jail, no questions asked.
-TD
From: Sarad AV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Drunken US Troops
Tim May wrote...
If it's a felony for _me_ to say Sources tell me that Valerie Plame, the
wife of Ambassador Joseph Wilson, has been a CIA covert operative since
1980, it is a felony for Robert Novak to do so.
Hum. Particularly in the era of the Internet and blogs. Even if The Press
should
Variola wrote...
So don't use their tools. Don't abuse the law against the maker
of a tool which can be used improperly. It is simply
wrong to blame a gun or drill or code maker because some evildoer
(virus propogator) used the tool against you.
Well, although I am willing to agree that a
This makes 3 companies I know of working on Quantum Cryptography for key
distribution. There must be a few more...
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?site=lightreadingdoc_id=41735
-TD
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Instant message during games with MSN
The federal government is preparing for the first time to
require that personal computers and other consumer electronics devices
contain technology to help block Internet piracy of digital entertainment.
Just wait until MS unleashes a brood of lobbyists when nobody buys the new
Palladium-ed
Tim May wrote...
I predict we'll soon be seeing a new thought control campaign with this
theme, that if you use encryption, you help the terrorists win.
Well, I'm dubious. Right now I'm thinking their strategy has been to pull
encryption down off of the social radar, and that's worked better
:
On Saturday 25 October 2003 04:27 pm, Tyler Durden wrote:
secure (every ask anyone if they believed there was such a thing as
effectively 'unbreakable' encryption? Reglar folks always believe
SOMEBODY'S got the technology to break what scheme you use, so why
bother).
I have a few friends like
:27 pm, Tyler Durden wrote:
Tim May wrote...
secure (every ask anyone if they believed there was such a thing as
effectively 'unbreakable' encryption? Reglar folks always believe
SOMEBODY'S got the technology to break what scheme you use, so why
bother).
I have a few friends like
is that you don't realize that crypto is no longer a
technological issue now. It's now a social and marketing one. The fact that
Tyler Durden actually has little of major insight to say completely misses
the point. Ideally, Tyler Durden is a generic, popular figure that
embodies virulent
I think that's the source as well - when the most recent of the
TWINKLE and TWIRL papers came out, Lucky Green was talking about
whether it was still safe to use 1024-bit keys,
and $1B for 1 key/day is similar to Shamir Tromer's estimate of
(
Doesn't make sense.
Votes are already bought and sold, but there's so many middle men taking
their cuts in the form of military bases or whatnot that the enduser barely
gets some.
-TD
From: Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying,
OK...let's say I receive a photo that I expected to contain stegoed
information on it, but then find that there's nothing I can retrieve using
the likely methods or software.
Is it possible to determine that the photo 'originally' (ie, when it was
sent to me) contained stegoed information,
Tim May wrote...
I consider Don Frederickson despicable, and stupid. To not bother before
understanding the context of the thread and say, basically, Yes, we have
narced out this customer to law enforcement, but they are just watching is
reprehensible.
Well, I saw the got.net quote before
The anti-globalization protests are a good example of something
misunderstood by Libertarian old-farts. On some levels, these protests have
a libertarian character...anti-globalization is not really about eliminating
free trade per se, but eliminating free trade, which is really just the
. So in a sense, it's gone way beyond
'repression'...no need for that rat-cage around our heads anymore.
-Tyler Durden
From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Decline of the Cypherpunks list...Part 19
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09
Tim May wrote...
This is silly, socialist nonsense. I know some of the book buyers at the
Borders store in Santa Cruz (the very one that the anti-bigness lefties
tried to ban from opening in Santa Cruz). Not only do they have a local
authors section which is larger than the similar section at
I pretty much agree with your views, minus the racism and misogny.
On days that the brilliant thoughtful Tim posts, I'm in awe.
When Tim the asshole posts, I'm disgusted. Unfortunately
these days the latter Tim isn't letting the former Tim
near the keyboard very often.
I dunno...sometimes his
them do so well
here in the US. (Though these mega-Barnes-and-Nobles may have dented their
numbers in the last few years...)
-TD
From: ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is Matel Stalinist?
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:56:31 +
Tim May quoted Tyler Durden who wrote:
Well, I
not be able to
tell.
Any of you TLA lurkers wanna come in on a remailer and set me straight?
-TD
From: A.Melon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Has this photo been de-stegoed?
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:28:31 -0800 (PST)
Tyler Durden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 2003-12-08
.
One could count some fraction of all the *.binaries.* on usenet
as anonymous communications (via stego), but then you'd have to know
how many are stego'd, and that is the game after all.
At 02:24 PM 12/8/03 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
Is it possible to determine that the photo 'originally' (ie, when
Mr Shaddack...
That's some interesting thinking there. The interesting thing is that no one
might ever even notice the presence of this benevolent worm. It could go
pretty much unchecked for a while.
As for Variola's comment, you might be right. I just assumed there's some
kind of
Tim May wrote...
Not only does it not make sense, but clearly this would cause pileups at
_some_ stores (too much Spam) and shortages at _other_ stores (still not
enough Spam, even with the latest send more Spam to all stores order. The
fact that neither shortages nor pileups (that I can see)
seeing in the press over the
last few years), but he hasn't actually controlled things for a couple of
decades. The Saddam we're really looking for is approximately Saddam #3, and
he's still at large, and directing the insurgency.
-TD
From: Thomas Shaddack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tyler Durden
Later today, a source close to the interrogation said that Saddam would be
subjected to stress and sleep deprivation. Basically, teams of
interrogators will ask questions over and over again, and no one will get
any rest until answers are provided.
At least here in NYC local news, it's common to
to grow in status
until he's just a notch or two below Mohammed. Look then for more bombings
and 9/11s here in the US. That Saddam was a cruel, butchering dictator will
soon be nearly irrelevant.
-Tyler Durden
From: Anatoly Vorobey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: U.S
17, 2003 at 05:06:55PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
A thread that started out quasi-interesting has descended into
non-Cypherpunk levels of triviality.
I thought it was trivial all along.
The original point stands, and is valid. The Islamic world and, in
particular, the Arabic part
Uh...I assume you're quoting somebody here?
The last point is actually a very good one, but getting there requires
hacking through gobbledeegook. What's this all businessmen silliness? And
using vpns WITHIN a company? As an employee of a major Wall Street firm, I
can tell you that's completely
I'm not certain, but I think there are some MS certified modems which have
a generalized A/D-D/A capability sufficient to handle voice.
They do. And I'm not so sure POTS is going to be where things will be the
most interesting...cable modem telephony might be where things get
interesting.
As
James Donald wrote...
They were supposedly supporters of the NLF, which they well
knew was a North Vietnamese sock puppet, and thus a KGB sock
puppet.
Uh...huh?
You really get a lot of things mixed up. If you think Ho Chi Minh was a KGB
sockpuppet then you really don't know anything about
James Donald wrote...
There is ample evidence that the 'anti war' crowd is largely
pro Saddam
This is a critical point, and it's one you fail to recognize over and over
again.
Let me tell you a little story. There's this guy that lives down the
block...I think he may be a Satanist or
And I don't usually get quite this MAD, but such ignorance, such blindness,
is the reason we are in this mess.
I'm not so sure Mr Donald is ignorant OR blind. He seems to be something
I've never seen in real life before: Completely aligned with US foreign
policy, past/present/future.
I'm
As long as truth is no defense against hate speech, and hate speech
includes
things which clearly don't involve anyone hating anyone else, hate speech
is simply
a code phrase for suppressing free expression.
At worst. At best it's going to boil down to some local enforcement shitheel
taking it
Variola: PULL!
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to take the kinds of risks implicit in what you're
talking about.
The meme which Tyler Durden and John Young--not surprising to me that both
are Manhattanites, representing the East Coast view of capitalism--are
popularizing is the one that says that what made companies successful was
*government
Tim May wrote...
Because the Jews and negroes have demanded that all students be taught
stuff they obviously will never use. Most inner city mutants should be
taught practical skills, not abstract stuff their previous education has
been bereft of.
Well, I don't know who's responsible, but
Well I be darned if Mr May hasn't inspired a major burst of eloquence,
between this response and Mr Young's.
As for this comment:
Schools don't educate, but merely serve as a filter for employers to
locate those individuals who aren't going to make trouble at the factory.
At best. In the inner
and send the
Scoops around to collect up the students off the streets every morning.
-TD
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Quantum Loop Gravity Be For Whitey
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 08:34:03 -0800
At 11:51 AM 1/1/04 -0500, Tyler
Tim May wrote...
I assume they figured that since they were using PGP to communicate with
their fellow anti-capitalists, that crypto must be cool
Here's the question Tyler Durden has for you.
Which is more important...annhiliation of the state, or getting a bunch of
list subscribers to agree
I'm thinking about a WiFi repeater...
Imagine I work on a high floor in an office tower, but I know that very
nearby, on the ground floor, there's a public WiFi hotspot.
Now let's say I want to be able to access that hotspot, but I'm currently
out of range due to the height.
DOES THERE EXIST
(come to think of it, I
could probably just buy a few cheap Linksys WiFi routers and scatter them
around, but I was hoping for something even cheaper, smaller, and less
obtrusive.)
-TD
From: R/db [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WiFi
Thank goodness Mr Bush is finally thinking long term.
Not only will the Lunar Base focus all of our attention away from the wars
and other nastiness down here, it will get us to the moon before Al Qaeda
and bin Laden ever have a chance to start spreading their filthy ideas
there. If we control
Interesting OpEd piece in the NYT today pointing out that a manned Mars
expedition becomes *much* more affordable if no return trip is planned.
This is not a suicide mission; supplies could be sent for rest of the
emigrants natural lives,
Gotcha. The obvious next place for a greatly expanded
Without civil
society, importing the procedures, rituals and even institutions of
democracy results only in instituting one more set of spoils for families
and groups to fight over at the expense of the rest of society. Democratic
mechanisms no more create civil society than wet streets cause
This came out on lightreading.com. Seems there's one tiny step backward for
CALEA w.r.t Internet telephony. I guess it's obvious the FBI will eventually
get it's way, but it's be interesting to see how it goes about it from here
out.
-TD
At its open meeting today, the FCC took a couple of
Sarath wrote...
is it true or just another make up so as to make its
citizens feel justified when they go invade another
nation.How much effort does it take to get credible
information of 5 million people oveseas?
Overseas? I would have thought most of them would be in the US! (Probably 4
Encryption ain't the half of it. Really good liottle article. And I didin't
know Skype was based in Luxemborg
http://slate.msn.com/id/2095777/
-TD
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that word of mouth
works just fine for disseminating mission-critical information.
-TD
From: Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: More on VoIP
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 09:49:13 -
Tyler Durden wrote:
Encryption ain't the half of it. Really good liottle article. And I
Looks like the UN's going to need some encrypted VoIP...
-TD
From: Major Variola (ret.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Gentlemen don't read each others' mail
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:39:22 -0800
Britain Accused of Spying on U.N.'s
..slow exhale.. thanks for the hit, Bob, that's the good shit.. I miss
it.
Yeah...I admit it. I snuck down to the cellar and took a few tokes as well.
I don't dig all the calls for needs killing, but every now and then the
dude delivers.
-TD
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
How about a pseudo random conversation generator appliance for the person
trying to mask their speech. If it closely models the vocal tract, language
and language characteristics of the speaker it might be extremely difficult
to remove as background noise.
There are plenty of CDs of
3/10/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
Holy Crap this seems bizarre. This isn't even really a case of know
your
customers, but know your customers' customers, isn't it?
Is this some kind of snipe hunt or mere Brazil-like government
incompetence and mindless application of half-baked laws?
Optimist
I can't stop outsourcing.Don't blame me.Blame your own
govt.
Holy Shit, Sarath...what's that got to do with Variola's little quip?
And are you trying to suggest (On Cypherpunks, of all places) that the US
government should somehow regulate outsourcing?
(Me, I work with outsourced experts all
More on Fed's seeking to expand CALEA to VoIP.
http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,62659,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_8
You know, it occurs to me I need a little 'Bot.
What this Bot does is periodically make encrypted calls or send out
meaningless encrypted messages on a regular basis. Then, it
A targeted registration and draft is is strictly in the planning stage,
said Flahavan, adding that the whole thing is driven by what appears to be
the more pressing and relevant need today -- the deficit in language and
computer experts.
Well, we could outsource 'em! I'd bet there's tons of
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2004/tc20040315_6034_tc058.htm
What I don't see mentioned in this little article is that fact that WEP is
largely useless in terms of security. So in a way the Chinese were
attempting to jump into that hole.
Of course, Zhong Nan Hai will have a
Ah Variola...do I detect a wee bit of Knee-jerk in your otherwise
consistently iconoclastic views? Let's take a looksee...
Get this through your head: a corporation can't initiate force against
you.
You may not like their product, practices, or price, but no one is
coercing you at gunpoint.
OK, I keep getting this shit. Right now, I can't tell if it's anti-agit-prop
or simply a well-intentioned but idiotic muslim chick (something about the
wording made me assume this was a female).
Listen up. Cypherpunks is a cryptography list, and al-qaeda.net is a node.
The subscribers to this
Well, we actually discussed a similar configuration in the context of mass
demonstration. Such a configuration could prevent a Goonsquad shakedown of
data/photos/videos, particularly when the WiFi device is acting like a
router, and particularly when this router is one of many in a sea of
Variola wrote...
What the fuck are you ingesting tonight? extreme tolerance to
opinions?? Its only because it would be self-parodying that
accusations of nazihood don't fly. Even with Tim gone, praise be unto
him.
Uh, it was Spaten Octoberfest, ON TAP.
Consider Tyler Durden justifiably bitch
Just for the heck of it, it would be interesting to look at demographic data
for the area
-TD
From: Major Variola (ret.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: who needs Padilla when you have govt? Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004
09:34:54
Uh...this is getting tiring...as far as I'm concerned this part of the
discussion looks like semantics.
From a pure physics standpoint, there isn't a hell of a lot of diference
between a noncrystalline solid and a liquid. One's moving faster. The
gaseous state is of course where molecules have
supplies security guards to the Coalition Provisional
Authority and has provided protection for Iraq administrator L. Paul Bremer,
among other coalition officials.
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Jackbooted thugs, mercs and non-gov
Silly bitch. But then again, she may just be looking for a gig.
Can someone out there slip her name into the do-not-fly registries so we can
have a new privacy advocate?
Here's the part I love...
As with
any public or private power, TIA's capabilities could have been abused --
which is why the
Is this that surprising? The CIA isn't doing too well if they cannot
figure out that there are good reasons to doubt anti-Iraq intelligence.
The stuff I've been reading would indicate almost the contrary. Apparently,
the Bush administration decided to more or less bypass the CIA's 'value
added'
So of course, society's interest in protecting police officers allows New
Orleans police to search your home or business at any time, for any
reason, or for no reason at all. As long as the cop mumbles something
about making sure he's safe.
Actually, this is particularly hilarious. The Cops in
Ironically, some of the features of Gmail bear resemblance to BlackNet.
In particular, its claimed policy of retaining email indefinitely,
even after the recipient has stopped using the account, is reminiscent
of BlackNet's function as a data haven, as well as other Cypherpunk
projects like the
The pre-microprocessor
automation of telephony (pulse and then touchtone dialing) put
expensive automation at the top of the hierarchy, and, as costs fell,
moved down from there.
Well, from the little I can understand of what you're saying, there seems to
be some stuff worthy of at least cursory
.
Tell them, Uh, change that pork to ham, and put it between the two slices
of bread.
Oi La! Instant Ham sandwich!
-TD
From: An Metet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Gmail as Blacknet
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 02:08:39 -0400
Tyler Durden writes:
Ironically, some
RAH wrote...
At 10:43 AM -0700 4/9/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Meshnets (everyone's a router) is cool, admittedly. But are you going
to spend *your* battery life routing someone else's message?
Only if they pay me cash
Someone enlighten me here...I don't see this as obvious. I might certainly
tore off the wrapper).
-TD
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Gmail as Blacknet
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 10:48:02 -0700
At 09:58 AM 4/9/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
Well, I never claimed to be Einstein, but your 3 simple steps sound
) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Meshing costs, the price of RAH's battery
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 10:36:28 -0700
At 11:32 AM 4/10/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
So, get a clue. When your battery runs out, you
get *zero* benefit from the mesh. Or even your local
argument any.)
-TD
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Meshing costs, the price of RAH's battery
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:03:35 -0700
At 07:06 PM 4/9/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
RAH wrote...
At 10:43 AM -0700 4/9/04, Major Variola
to forcibly or legally shut him down, then one
probably needs killing.
-TD
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Gmail as Blacknet (legally required forgetting)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:35:47 -0700
At 05:16 PM 4/9/04 -0400, Tyler Durden
Tim regularly and thoroughly jumped up my ass about my various ideological
impurities
Well, this was fairly annoying and I think made it harder to dig out the
gold from Tim May's poop. And in a way, this was self-defeating from a
topple-the-state point of view.
My point was (and sometimes is)
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