Eric Cordian wrote...
Can I be the list's new Crusty Retired
Engineer now?
Why, did you retire recently?
-TD
From: Eric Cordian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: On Needing Killing
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 12:58:50 -0700 (PDT)
Justin writes:
With all due respect to the
Jim Dixon wrote...
A) Two links to the same ISP: In terms of redundancy for the purposes of
being fault tolerant, only one of the multiple links is ever used. With
You don't understand and you are quite wrong.
If one AS has more than one link to another AS, there are often very good
reasons
Then what are
you doing here? This list is for discussing and implementing cypherpunk
concepts. If you deny them, you should go elsewhere to pursue your goals.
Tsk tsk...this sounds like Orthodoxy to me. Part of the benefit of an
anarchy is to support otherwise-suppressed forms of existence and
: On Killing Blaster
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:03:30 -0700
At 04:26 PM 4/11/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
When faced with force, you reply with force when you can.
Nah. This isn't even true in a fistfight, except when the guy you're
fighting is a) significantly smaller than you, and b) less trained
Sorry that I pissed on your orthodoxy by doubting that everything was
inevitable in its strongest form.
Aside from inevitability there's the road taken...it may have been
inevitable that the Nazi's would fall (aside from fighting a 2-front war),
but they took out a few folks on their way down.
I don't suppose there'll be any civilians in
AmeriKKKa either, and therefore, it will be impossible to label any
destructive act committed against the US, either at home or abroad, as
terrorist.
Ah shit I hate hearing this. Is it possible to retroactively re-cast a
terrorist attack (eg, World
I don't know...I've been following some of the voting discussion, and to
some extent for the rank-and-file, doesn't this still boil down to trust
us? (In other words, it looks like a large number of people have to work
very carefully to make sure the voting system is secure, and then voters
As for finance itself, there's a reason that I say that financial
cryptography is the only cryptography that matters. Since the time of
Mesopotamian bullae and grain banks, cryptography has been essential to
finance. You can't do one without the other. The more cryptography you do,
the more
I wonder how quickly one could incinerate a memory card in the field
with high success rate? Destroy the data and the passphrases don't
help.
Well, what if there were 3 passwords:
1) One for Fake data, for amatuers (very few of the MwG will actually be
smart enough to look beyond this...that's
Terrorists in Fallujah claim they'll
give $15 million each for the heads of
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Lt. Gen.
Ricardo Sanchez and Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmit.
Well, does the actual HEAD have to be delivered? That might reduce the
options considerably...
-TD
From: Major Variola (ret)
Well, I want a piece of this!
What I want is a sort of $$$-barrier that I can raise or lower as my mood
hits me. If a spammer (be it Citibank or Do U Want a Bigger Pe-ni$ is
willing to pre-pay above my barrier, then the spam hits my inbox (I make no
claim that I'll read it, however), and I
The volume of data they collect has reached the point where good
analysis is no longer tractable in a theoretical algorithmic sense with
the best tools they currently have at their disposal, particularly when
you have a data space as broad and diffuse as terrorism to sift.
This is also going to
Hmmm... that's a thought. Tim May as president. Election slogan: You're
*all*
going up the chimneys.
Wasn't there something close a few years ago? I remember a write-in campaign
to get Unabomber Ted Kascinsky elected as President.
-TD
From: Jack Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sunder [EMAIL
How do you start motivating a lazy and apathetic public to learn about
their
candidates, and vote? Door-to-door campaigns? Talks at the local library?
Grocery store posters?
Well, we could just tell them their lives would be much better under Kodos,
rather than Kang.
-TD
From: Damian Gerow
How do you start motivating a lazy and apathetic public to learn about
their
candidates, and vote? Door-to-door campaigns? Talks at the local library?
Grocery store posters?
Well, imagine if we could buy votes...I'd bet we could scrounge up a few
hundred thousand votes for the price of a few
Somebody who fixes a fax machine that is owned by a group that may
advocate terrorism could be liable,
So if I'm a WWII historian and have a deep resentment of the Nazi regime,
and I run a website with links to authentic Nazi historic documents, I guess
I'm a Nazi, right?
If we donate to this
Boondoggle. A solution in search of a problem:
Monyk believes there will be a global market of several million users once
a workable solution has been developed. A political decision will have to
be taken as to who those users will be in order to prevent terrorists and
criminals from taking
Thomas Shaddack wrote...
There are quite many important activities that don't require storage of
the transported data.
For example, very very few people record their phone calls.
Storage wasn't my point per se. My point was that quantum cryptography only
becomes unsnoopable* when it's in the
SO...
This begs the question: Can we start issuing Cypherpunks LEO IDs?
-TD
From: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: US airport fake ID study 'was found in al-Qaida cave'
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 08:30:51 -0400
Well, why can we use this to our advantage?
As usual, this thought emerges from Tyler Durden's punch-drunk brain, but
it's worth considering...
Imagine I'm working for a large Fortune 100 Company. Now imagine I hear
about a sasser-like worm that will install atself and spread, BUT it has
been
Anybody know of apps that allow someone to hack somebody else's Palm?
Specifically, say you are beaming or receiving a beam from someone else's
Palm, but you'd like to know much more than what they had planned on beaming
you. So you actually beam them an app that takes their phonebook and
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Palm Hack?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:16:37 -0700
At 07:50 AM 6/3/2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
Anybody know of apps that allow someone to hack somebody else's Palm?
PalmOS doesn't have useful memory protection,
so if you can get somebody
Hey..
Since an important theme in Cypherpunks is anonymous transactions, I'm
wondering if there isn't some way we can't reverse-swindle folks like this,
perhaps by getting them to wire into an egold account or something.
Supposedly, they perform an ACH into an account, get you to withdraw the
Is that what they do? I've been under the impression that they never
transfer you any money, that they just request incidental expenses which
gullible idiots view as an investment against their cut of the X million
promised.
Well, what I think they do is ostensibly ACH some funds over, which
Bill Stewart wrote...
and of course remember that their account doesn't *really* have $18M in it
:-)
No doubt it doesn't have $18M. But in order to get the ACH sent, the
originating bank should (theoretically) have to see some kind of $$$ in
there in order to agree to ACH anything over. If the
It is beneath the station of those those with the power to define,
describe,
and profile the world to pick the pocket of some poor black man in Africa,
while encouraging him to pose for funny pictures that will be laughed at on
some comfortably well off white person's web site.
I gotta admit
slowed this process down. We're making
a similar mistake in Iraq, and we New Yorkers will probably pay for it again
(if Tyler Durden stops posting after WTC#2 comes tumbling down, you'll know
what happened. I'll try to post one more time from under the rubble if I can
sniff a WiFi hotspot.)
-TD
Justin wrote...
I haven't lived in China, but my impression of the country leads me to
believe otherwise. If it's not *quite* socialist, it's fascist.
As above, this doesn't seem right. Hong Kong might be a major capitalist
center of operations, but Hong Kong is not really China,
Remember too that terrorism is really a form of PR, rather than (in most
cases) an actual destruction of infrastructure or whatnot. Smart terrorists
will obviously leverage any channel available to cause a population to view
their world as unstable.
Also remember too that plans such as this
Do optical mirrors still work in the microwave regime? I have no idea.
-TD
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Low-elevation skymapping at 2.45 Ghz
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:09:26 -0700
Telescopes are sold for $200 which include
OK...so say an officer is at the beach and spots some hot chick in a bathing
suit, with obviously no ID on her person. And let's say this officer
believes that this chick has a bag of pot at home. Can he just go and
arrest her?
-TD
From: Eric Cordian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
THAThe did, after all, literally ask for it.
You could even say, Uh, you don't want to sniff that...
-TD
From: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Citizen Chics Must Put Out
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 20:19:21
I dunno...as an ex-optical engineer/physicst, I'm sceptical about this whole
scary tempest bullcrap. Even if it can be made to work fairly reliably, I
suspect deploying it is extremely costly. In contrast, the main benefit of
CALEA is that they can merely provision their copy of a circuit to go
Traditionally speaking, Asymetric warfare has almost always been successful.
The best example, of course, is the French exodus from Algeria.
As for sympathisizing with OBL, I agree with you, but then again I've never
been an asymmetric warrior myself. But it seems to me the bombing of that
If you think the cable landings in Va/Md are coincidental, you are
smoking something I've run out of. Its all recorded. I'm sure the
archiving and database groups in Ft. Meade will get a chuckle out of your
the right to idioms.
Well, I don't actually believe it's all recorded. As I've attempted
Destroying an pair of buildings and killing thousands of citizens -most of
whom couldn't give an accurate account of U.S. forces distribution in the
MidEast- is not a step forward.
Well, I think that was the point. At least, Al-Qaeda was saying (amongst
other things) that the US public could no
And this was a prime target. Financial disruption from *just* the tower
collapses was significant across the economy as a whole: lost records,
insurance claims, lawsuits, etc., exacted a very substantial loss against
their enemy.
That was nothing compared to the real damage, which I've heard few
Hum. Does this mean Tim May has resuscribed?
-TD
From: Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Final stage
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 20:52:34 +0200 (CEST)
Praise Allah! The spires of the West will soon come crashing down!
Our
Um. Interesting point. Come to think of it, it might actually make a lot
more sense to be able to run those risk models offline. That way, you can
always refine them later. Better safe than sorry. Given Variola's little
factoid, even if they aren't grabbing everything now, they probably will
So...given the legal precedent, might a citizen's arrest of the arresting
agents be defensible in court? (This assumes that there are large numbers of
protestors, of course, willing to apprehend the rogue officers.)
-TD
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: We werent doing
Sorry to need educating once again, but I had assumed can-shaped capacitors
were gone from laptops in lieu of surface mount. Anyone know? (I don't own a
laptop.)
-TD
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: vacuum-safe laptops ?
Date:
Sounds to me like Al-Qaeda is just getting the most mileage they can out of
their little PR Event a couple of years ago. They don't even need to blow up
anything to get the most bang for their buck.
Hell, in this story the biggest threat was the incompetence of the airline.
-TD
From: Major
At times of 10 GBit Ethernet, OC192 data rate doesn't seem all that
intimidating.
Well, as it turns out the 10GbE standard has a few flavors, and one of them
uses a 'lite' version of OC-192 framing. So for all intents and purposes,
consider them the same data rate.
-TD
From: Eugen Leitl [EMAIL
]
To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: vacuum-safe laptops ?
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:13:13 +0200 (CEST)
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
Sorry to need educating once again, but I had assumed can-shaped
capacitors
were gone from laptops
I think it would be far easier if WAN protocols were plain GBit Ethernet.
WAN won't be 1GbE, but it will probably be 10GbE with SONET framing, or else
OC-192c POS (ie, PPP-encapsulated HDLC-framed MPLS). In either case, I
suspect it will be far cheaper in the long run to monitor a big fat pipe
that conversation came out of.
-TD
From: J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Email tapping by ISPs, forwarder addresses, and crypto proxies
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:07:10 -0500 (CDT)
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Tyler
As suggested, tapping oversea fibres in shallow waters is probably the Way
To
Do It.
Apparently NSA has it's own splicing sub for this purpose. As for US fibers,
I've spoken to folks who have actually seen the splice in cable landings
that went over to W. VA or wherever.
-TD
Gimme an intel IXA network processor and no problem. ATM is fixed
size data, not as tricky as IP decoding. Predicatable bandwidth.
Stream all into megadisks, analyze later.
I'm gonna have to challenge this bit here, Variola.
Let's back up. You've got an OC-48 or OC-192 fiber and you want to grab
Telecom-grade laser packages (and the lasers inside them) not only do not
have a monitoring diode, they are designed very carefully to prevent the
kind of feedback you're talking about (it destabilizes the laser and causes
a power penalty).
However, there's no real reason not to be able just
The person in question was just somebody with a weakness for industrial
architecture.
Either that, or they wanted to see if there'd be ANOTHER apocalyptic chain
reaction decimating Texas City, just in the off chance someone hits just one
of the tanks.* In other words, does public safety still
Eugen Leitl wrote...
It's clearly not viable to process much underwater. How much machine room
square meters do you need at those cable landings, though?
Not that much, if all you need to do is send a spliced copy over to your own
undersea Optical Fiber Amplification node or undersea DWDM OADM.
Variola:
You say a lotta good shit here, but you're really out of your area in this
case. You seem to miss the basic points, and then fill in your blindspot
with pure theoretical conjecture. Let me point out some of the lil' flaws in
your thinking
With all due respect, you think Ft. Meade
Variola wrote...
While this cannot be discounted in toto, the tech comes to them from
academia (most of the time), so generally, if you are widely read,
you'll
have a pretty good idea of what's *possible*. You are likely dead-on
accurate about the fabs though.
In the *public* lit.
Well, perhaps
Jul 2004 21:34:59 -0700
At 03:52 PM 7/27/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
Variola wrote...
In the *public* lit.
Well, perhaps but perhaps not. Burst-mode signaling, transceivers, and
networking technology are a good example. If you see DISA, NSA, and
DARPA
all working with the acknoledged experts inthe
Well, there's no doubt that what Variola says is basically correct.
But it doesn't exactly apply to the specific situation I was referring to,
which was whether something inconspicuous might be slipped into a CO
unbeknownst to the rank-and-file (ie, the CO manager would probably receive
some
Nah, if you're an Al Qaeda member, it's
your duty to open up more donut shops and in fact, have a policy of free
donuts to every cop. Infact, you should send crates of donuts to every
police precinct several times a day. I'd suggest a 10:1 donut to officer
ratio.
I'm pretty sure I saw bin Laden
like making an official statement. Such official
statements can completely contradict any other official statement, and that
are by no means binding on any other subscriber to the Cypherpunks list (and
of course they couldn't be).
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Machiavelli, ur bandit apologist
Very amusing turn of phrase.
From: John Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Al-Q targeting NY corporations?
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 09:20:46 -0700
Indeed, this is the way of US founding fathers, as with today's
corporations and citizenry
So perhaps when Mr. Ashcroft erodes civil rights, you can make a valid
claim that it introduces only a very slight risk of a police state, or
is only the start of a trend.
How much risk is enough? If events only presented a 1% chance of
taking the path to a police state, would you want to
Wow. What a dumb fuck this columnist is. No wait...this guy's got a gig and
fuck the truth.
I wonder how many of the Japanese in internment camps owned a Zero?
And, if a Saudi citizen on our shores gets rowdy, should we round up
Morrocans? (ie, Japan is a country and a nationality...Islam is
To keep the nation secure the web site is not named. Google
search appears to do it based on hate mail coming in.
How 'bout posting those hate email addresses on Cryptome!
(You might also recommend that they use an anonymous remailer next time!)
-TD
Nah.
They wanted to cock-block Kerry and his high visibility as a result of the
DNC.
As for inconveniencing this New Yorker, it was barely worse than it usually
is going down to Wall Street. The RNC will be another story altogether,
however.
-TD
From: Sunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
Sunder wrote...
And PGP won't stand out because ?
Just wondering. Is it possible to disguise a PGP'd message as a more weakly
encrypted message that then decrypts to something other than the true
message?
OK...perhaps we stego an encrypted message, then encrypt that photo using
something
Sorta like the National Forests... resource of many uses... may as well
include a mixmaster payload in that worm :-) which also provides some
other
overt free benefit like antivirus or anti-helmetic or defrag or game or
bayesian spamfilter
or chat or screensaver or anon remailing client or free
Variola wrote...
PS: I thought Tyler had nominated himself as leader? :-)
No, almost the opposite. I propose that any 'Cypherpunk' can declare himself
to be leader and make 'official statements' at any time. Of course, others
can (and most probably will) choose to ignore the official statement,
Goddam, Variola...I thought you had a sense of humor!
At 01:26 PM 8/24/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
PS: I thought Tyler had nominated himself as leader? :-)
No, almost the opposite. I propose that any 'Cypherpunk' can declare
himself
to be leader and make 'official statements' at any time.
Oh
Sheeit. I think I'm the only one left on the minder node...I ain't gettin
shit. A quick googling revealed nothing about how to subscribe to the
al-qaeda node, which I have been avoiding doing (but then again, St
Bernardus Belgian ale does not really help). Can someone send me the
instructions?
This actually pisses me off.
Unlike more hard-line cypherpunks, I'm not (yet) convinced that
government-originated laws are an inherent evil, even when I don't agree
with them. The main problem comes when administration of these laws pretty
much boils down to the whim of a local authority. In
You may laugh but 74% (or whatever is the % who believes Saddam
personally
piloted all 9/11 planes) of americans will believe it.
So Mr. Young is anarchist for all practical purposes and consequences.
And you are all his associates.
Well, they did have the little info-stripe under John
Some good points, Johnny.
I'm not convinced Spam and the remailers are inherently incompatible. Or at
least, I'm thinking there's a sort of uncertainty principle that should work
between legit remailable messages and spam.
it may be a tricky business, but I suspect that the need of spammers to
Variola wrote...
Making sure we have robust remailing services in one shape or
another and at the same time have some kind of at least indirect
acceptance from legislators and also a low degree of spam flowing
through are essential goals.
Any legislator seeking to control how people use a
Wheee! NYC==Police State for the last week for those of you living under
rocks...
Not totally. That cop on a scooter rightfully got the crap kicked out of him
for mowing down demonstrators.
They can gain local, temporary control but if we take to the streets en
masse then there's not much
Well, W did say he'd do whatever is necessary.
-TD
From: Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FoRK] Veeery Intewesting... (fwd from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:10:24 +0200
- Forwarded message from Adam L Beberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
From: Adam L
Joseph Holsten wrote...
who are ya tryin to fool?
Well, just in case it's not obvious, the clear issue here is whether the use
of Stego is actually merely a red flag, in which case it may actually be
worse than using nothing on some levels. If every message used it, though...
-TD
So here's the 'obvious' question:
How fast can dedicated hardware run if it were a dedicated Stegedetect
processor?
In other words, how easy would it be for NSA, et al to scan 'every' photo on
the internet for Stego traces? (And then, every photo being emailed?)
And then, how fast can someone
Well, still ruminating...
The kind of regulations that regulatory bodies have made in the past are in
their nature different from these secret rules I still believe. This is of
course aside from their secret nature.
Previously, if a regulatory body such as the FCC enacted some kind of
policy,
I see Savvis has a sales office in a Building I used to work in here in NYC.
They also seem to be be somewhat deadbeat-ish with respect to paying some of
their bills, so I bet they need that Spam revenue. That exec probably needed
that revenue in order to qualify for some absurd bonus.
-TD
cameras will be linked -- and authorities will be alerted to crimes and
terrorist acts.
Whew. I feel better already. If only we had had cameras rolling on
9/11/2001, none of that would have ever happened.
-TD
_
FREE pop-up blocking
Damn right. 'Conservative' means agreeing with the most vocal proponents of
the current right wing apparatchiks. It seems to have little or no
relationship to fiscally conservative ideas. Left wing now refers to
anyone who disagrees with the 'Conservatives', even if said left wing
policies are
Actually, despite some of the fairly dubious what about this! points,
there are some things that are a little unsettling. No way that's a Boeing
757, and it's not like they can just lose one (ie, there should have been
one unaccounted for). And I was unaware of the possibility that the FBI had
Variola wrote...
If it *were* a nuke, it would be easy to detect --from Vera
gamma-ray satellites staring at the earth to optical sensors
(there's a characteristic nonlinear time-course of optical emissions)
to fallout monitors, ground and plane based.
--and an underground test
that vents to the
Yo RAH... I don't see a big problem here. Derrida seems right on the money
for the most part. Even this Tribunal has some Cypherpunk-friendly ideas
behind it: namely, it's not particularly state-oriented and its
reputation-based. Sure, he may be a little soft on a bunch of stuff, but
he's
Ken Brown wrote...
And if there was such a test, how long before China stomped all over them.
Last thing they want is a looney dictator with nukes on their borders (If
only to pre-empt Russia, US, or Japan intervening). Even if both the
Chinese state capitalists and the North Korean absolute
I still think we're seeing the early stages of a Jonestown-like scenario. If
we see Kim Jong Il summoning the entire NK population to PyongYang, then we
can be pretty sure they're going to nuke themselves!
-TD
From: John Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED],
We hope that the mislabelling of Freegate is a simple mistake, soon
rectified,
rather than yet another example of an IT firm helping Beijing implement
restrictions.
I'd say this was naive, but they give an example after this that shows they
know the score. Symantec wants in to China and their
.
-TD
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Symantec labels China censor-busting software as Trojan
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:45:00 -0700
At 09:45 AM 9/15/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
Hum. Seems the Chinese government is pretty effective
Who, the Iranians? Which ones are fanatics?
I'll grant there are some fanatics left in Iran, but Iran seems increasingly
dominated by fairly sleezy clergy/judges. Like any government, theirs is
deteriorating into a mere racket. And if you ask me, fanaticism never lasts
very long anywhere, only
Ken Brown wrote...
Prostitution industry?
Well, Industry from what I understand is probably too strong a term. These
seem to be individual females. And no, they ain't wearin' high heels and hot
pants, so what we're talking about is very, very discrete, and sometimes for
goods and services as
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To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Geopolitical Darwin Awards
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:45:18 +0100
Tyler Durden wrote:
Who, the Iranians? Which ones are fanatics?
I'll grant there are some fanatics left in Iran, but Iran seems
increasingly
Hey Hey Hey!
I'm not the original quoter there...watch it!
-TD
From: J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Geopolitical Darwin Awards
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:48:01 -0500 (CDT)
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Tyler Durden
A solid post. In this context I'd drill down a bit to the idea of
fanaticism...
And if you ask me, fanaticism never lasts very long
anywhere, only for about a generation during turbulent times.
That is what King George and his redcoats said about the
ragtag colonials, American as well as
John Young wrote...
from school and fucked up parents who use you like a
beast of burden -- in every age and country.
The military has found that teenagers are better fighters
than those over 21, more malleable, patriotic, healthy, ready
to kill when told it's okay. . Grunts younger than 20
Tim wrote...
You demonstrate that point well.
Hum. Spend a lot of time with binoculars, do we? How much does the FBI pay
field ops these days?
-TD
_
Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
Can't specifically confirm that, but this last summer I traveled to several
countries (and back into the US) using an expired passport as ID (and no,
they didn't just forget to read the date, the expired passport was
officially acceptable).
-TD
From: Riad S. Wahby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
JAT wrote...
Basically, we're a bunch of closet fascists.
and
Um, I'm sorry - maybe you hadn't heard yet: that old piece of paper was
superceded on 11 Sep 01, when everything changed.
I think that's the day we came out of the closet.
Read, Radio Free Albemuth by P.K. Dick and you'll get the
First of all, the guy is a major dumbass...
My profile is radically different from all those who killed nearly 3,000 of
my countrymen on September 11, 2001. My holy book of choice is the Bible.
My race is Caucasian. I am a loyal, taxpaying, patriotic, evil-hating,
English-as-first-language,
OK, Mr Donald...you're shittin' me, right?
Has anyone who does not look a terrorist done a suicide mission
outside Israel or Russia?
If you define a suicide mission a priori as the act of a terrorist (I guess
I do), then by definition anyone who performs such an act is a terrorist.
Therefore,
Well, as a research toy QC seems gee-wiz super cool.
I'm still not super-impressed by the current set of applications.
In particular, consider that random number generator. Although QM does
indeed predict that experimental outcomes will be 'random', they are random
within the weightings imposed
OK, I'll bite. Or rather...
Well, your initial postulate was stated in such a way as to be fairly
unrefutable, the key word being float. Only companies, etc...provide that
by requiring that the transacted funds flow through their coffers for a
moment, where they extract their discount revenue.
Actually, this story is quite the media bellweather. This one treats the
case purely as Gilmore wants to fly anonymously, while even some other
mainline media are reporting it as, Gilmore is questioning the legality of
hidden laws.
I guess USA Today still feels it has an audience worth
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