Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-17 Thread Terry Pinfold
Hi David, the information I have is that manufacturers set the exposure balance to slightly underexpose, with most doing this to -0.3 EV. However, photographers shooting in RAW, who don't care about the SOOC image, will push the histogram as far to the right as possible to avoid clipping and

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-17 Thread David Vincent-Jones
I am not sure that camera manufacturers have too much interest in protecting the highlights. However you set your meter .. for spot, local or whole image .. the meter (if you are using it solely) is simply going to provide information assuming that the metered area is pivoted around  'mid

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-17 Thread Terry Pinfold
Hi All, camera manufacturers actually set the camera to underexpose a little bit because this protects the highlights and produces a pleasing result. However, when shooting in RAW you want to push the exposure towards the right of the histogram without clipping. The picture may look over

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-17 Thread Frank
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 01:42, bwh vanBeest wrote: > Thanks for all the reactions to my posting. I initially thought something > was wrong with my camera-DT-combination, but now I learned otherwise. I > have now learned what to do. Still, somehow it is unsatisfactory that a > picture of which you

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-12 Thread Terry Pinfold
HI Bertwin, the very benefit and dare I say joy of working a RAW file is that you are in charge of the whole process. One of my first adjustments that that I need to do is to the exposure slider to give the desired starting point. I then go to filmic and set the relative white and black

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-12 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* bwh vanBeest [01-12-22 09:43]: > Thanks for all the reactions to my posting. I initially thought something was > wrong with my camera-DT-combination, but now I learned otherwise. I have now > learned what to do. Still, somehow it is unsatisfactory that a picture of > which you know is

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-12 Thread bwh vanBeest
Thanks for all the reactions to my posting. I initially thought something was wrong with my camera-DT-combination, but now I learned otherwise. I have now learned what to do. Still, somehow it is unsatisfactory that a picture of which you know is exposed correctly is initially displayed in DT

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-12 Thread Remco Viëtor
On mercredi 12 janvier 2022 12:08:08 CET Frank J. wrote: > Am 10.01.22 um 22:12 schrieb bwh vanBeest: > > Hi, > > When I import a series of images straight from the camera (Nikon > > D850, Nikon nef format) in Darktable (scene-referred workflow), the > > images invariably show up as way too dark,

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-12 Thread Frank J.
Am 10.01.22 um 22:12 schrieb bwh vanBeest: Hi, When I import a  series of images straight from the camera (Nikon D850, Nikon nef format) in Darktable (scene-referred workflow), the images invariably show up as way too dark, as if they are underexposed. The histogram shows a big unexposed part

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Bernhard [01-11-22 02:22]: > > > Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 10.01.22 um 22:50: > > * Bernhard [01-10-22 16:30]: > > > > > > bwh vanBeest schrieb am 10.01.22 um 22:12: > > > > When I import a  series of images straight from the camera (Nikon D850, > > > > Nikon nef format) in Darktable

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-10 Thread Bernhard
nBeest *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 January 2022 8:12 AM *To:* darktable-user@lists.darktable.org *Subject:* [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark Hi, When I import a  series of images straight from the camera (Nikon D850, Nikon nef format) in Darktable

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-10 Thread Bernhard
Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 10.01.22 um 22:50: * Bernhard [01-10-22 16:30]: bwh vanBeest schrieb am 10.01.22 um 22:12: When I import a  series of images straight from the camera (Nikon D850, Nikon nef format) in Darktable (scene-referred workflow), the images invariably show up as way

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Bernhard [01-10-22 16:30]: > > > bwh vanBeest schrieb am 10.01.22 um 22:12: > > When I import a  series of images straight from the camera (Nikon D850, > > Nikon nef format) in Darktable (scene-referred workflow), the images > > invariably show up as way too dark, as if they are

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-10 Thread Terry Pinfold
AM To: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Subject: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark Hi, When I import a series of images straight from the camera (Nikon D850, Nikon nef format) in Darktable (scene-referred workflow), the images invariably show up as way too dark

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* bwh vanBeest [01-10-22 16:22]: > Hi, > > When I import a series of images straight from the camera (Nikon D850, Nikon > nef format) in Darktable (scene-referred workflow), the images invariably > show up as way too dark, as if they are underexposed. The histogram shows a > big unexposed

Re: [darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-10 Thread Bernhard
bwh vanBeest schrieb am 10.01.22 um 22:12: When I import a  series of images straight from the camera (Nikon D850, Nikon nef format) in Darktable (scene-referred workflow), the images invariably show up as way too dark, as if they are underexposed. The histogram shows a big unexposed part

[darktable-user] Imported images are always way too dark

2022-01-10 Thread bwh vanBeest
Hi, When I import a series of images straight from the camera (Nikon D850, Nikon nef format) in Darktable (scene-referred workflow), the images invariably show up as way too dark, as if they are underexposed. The histogram shows a big unexposed part on the highlights. I am pretty sure though