Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-10 Thread Jimmy Tang
Hi, On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 04:47:10PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "Gudjon I. Gudjonsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi > >Sorry for the disturbion but I would like to mention some things. > > I have been thinking about if it was possible to set up some bug list as a > > kin

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-10 Thread Helge Hafting
Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: Hi again Thank you Goswin and Alexander for nice ideas. I will do something into these directions. About the idea below. Debian and more or less Linux has now been banned from my institution even if I have been able to solve a lot of peoples problems with it.

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-10 Thread Helge Hafting
jmt wrote: Sorry for the disturbion but I would like to mention some things. I have been thinking about if it was possible to set up some bug list as a kind of quality assurance for commercial programs in Debian. Most commercial programs I have seen are only said to be compatible with RedHat a

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-09 Thread Francesco Pietra
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 15:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 08:17:59AM +1000, Sam Varghese wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Do you really believe that a business is set up for any other purpose > > than to make money? > > Some are. Some are n

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-09 Thread hendrik
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 08:17:59AM +1000, Sam Varghese wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Do you really believe that a business is set up for any other purpose > than to make money? Some are. Some are not. Making money is a constraint -- the business that does not make

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-08 Thread Francesco Pietra
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 00:17, Sam Varghese wrote: > On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 06:19:44PM +0200 Francesco Pietra said: > > On Monday 08 May 2006 18:34, A J Stiles wrote: > > > On Monday 08 May 2006 15:46, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > > > However, there is scientific proprietary software from small > >

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-08 Thread Sam Varghese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 06:19:44PM +0200 Francesco Pietra said: > On Monday 08 May 2006 18:34, A J Stiles wrote: > > On Monday 08 May 2006 15:46, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > > However, there is scientific proprietary software from small > > > softwareh

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-08 Thread Francesco Pietra
On Monday 08 May 2006 18:34, A J Stiles wrote: > On Monday 08 May 2006 15:46, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > However, there is scientific proprietary software from small > > softwarehouses that has decades of experience and development, is sold > > with accompanying source code, and solves problems th

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-08 Thread A J Stiles
On Monday 08 May 2006 15:46, Francesco Pietra wrote: > However, there is scientific proprietary software from small softwarehouses > that has decades of experience and development, is sold with accompanying > source code, and solves problems that debian is quite far from solving. > Again, don't ask

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 04:46:29PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > That's true. In my country the public administration - including the > university - is wasting public money (derived from taxation) in software that > is found with debian, sometimes of better quality. They could better make > d

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-08 Thread Francesco Pietra
On Monday 08 May 2006 17:19, A J Stiles wrote: > The problem is, purchasing decisions are being made by people unqualified > to make those decisions. That's true. In my country the public administration - including the university - is wasting public money (derived from taxation) in software tha

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-08 Thread A J Stiles
On Monday 08 May 2006 09:27, "Miller, Marc" wrote: > You're both right... > > Of course we want to promote free software, but without compatibility > with commercial applications, many solution stacks are missing key > components. That excludes Debian in an area where SUSE and Red Hat are > proud

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-08 Thread Francesco Pietra
On Monday 08 May 2006 10:37, Dave Ewart wrote: > On Monday, 08.05.2006 at 03:27 -0500, Miller, Marc wrote: > > The Debian way is to promote the availability of source code, but is > > that more important than worldwide adoption in general? The focus > > should be on capturing the audience first, a

Re: [SPAM] Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-08 Thread Fielder George Dowding
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yes, I agree with RMS on this point. He has pointed out that using the GPL (an not a license that permits a comercial entity to abscond with the code) superior free (yes, in both senses) _software_ (o/s, utilities, applications) makes for a better worl

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-08 Thread Gudjon I. Gudjonsson
Hi again Thank you Goswin and Alexander for nice ideas. I will do something into these directions. About the idea below. Debian and more or less Linux has now been banned from my institution even if I have been able to solve a lot of peoples problems with it. Looking at a guy copying p

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-08 Thread Dave Ewart
On Monday, 08.05.2006 at 03:27 -0500, Miller, Marc wrote: > The Debian way is to promote the availability of source code, but is > that more important than worldwide adoption in general? The focus > should be on capturing the audience first, and converting commercial > ISVs to the open source mod

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 09:16:33AM +0100, A J Stiles wrote: > This is a most un-Debian-like thing to be doing. Instead of running non-Free > software on Debian, we should be seeking to create real Free alternatives I would sure like to see a FOSS tool with the power of Gamess or Gaussian, or

RE: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-08 Thread Miller, Marc
ginal Message- From: A J Stiles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:17 AM To: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Commercial programs in Debian On Friday 05 May 2006 06:53, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: > Hi >Sorry for the disturbion but I would like to mention

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-08 Thread A J Stiles
On Friday 05 May 2006 06:53, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: > Hi >Sorry for the disturbion but I would like to mention some things. > I have been thinking about if it was possible to set up some bug list as a > kind of quality assurance for commercial programs in Debian. Most > commercial programs

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Gudjon I. Gudjonsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi >Sorry for the disturbion but I would like to mention some things. > I have been thinking about if it was possible to set up some bug list as a > kind of quality assurance for commercial programs in Debian. Most commercial > programs I

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-06 Thread Alexander Sieck
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 10:07:36AM +0200, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: ... >Can we agree on that companies are run by different strategies and the > more > programs that run flawlessly on Debian, the more likelyhood there is of > people using it? If the answer is yes, then please advice me to

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-06 Thread Gudjon I. Gudjonsson
I wish every package was like the one described below. I am not in the business of advertising the commercial programs I mentioned. I am in the business of advertising Debian and Linux because these named programs work more or less flawlessly most of the time on Debian although there are several

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-06 Thread Francesco Pietra
I can illustrate my experience with commercial packages for quantum mechanical and quantum chemical calculations. There is at least one package for quantum mechanical calculations (don't ask me the name as i am not advertising) that is accurate, solves all problems of file type conversion, provi

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-06 Thread Gudjon I. Gudjonsson
Þann Föstudagur 5. maí 2006 08:32 skrifaði jmt: > >Sorry for the disturbion but I would like to mention some things. > > I have been thinking about if it was possible to set up some bug list as > > a kind of quality assurance for commercial programs in Debian. Most > > commercial programs I hav

Re: Commercial programs in Debian

2006-05-05 Thread jmt
>Sorry for the disturbion but I would like to mention some things. > I have been thinking about if it was possible to set up some bug list as a > kind of quality assurance for commercial programs in Debian. Most > commercial programs I have seen are only said to be compatible with RedHat > and