Re: Powerpc netinst iso.

2004-07-17 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven, You didn't ask for my opinion, but here it is anyway... As a user, I think splitting netinst/businesscard into separate 2.4 and 2.6 isos is a wonderful idea. The fewer unneeded Megabytes I have to download and burn before I can get started installing the better! I usually know whether I'

Bug#260225: Sarge installer not recognising partition table for disk larger than 137GB

2004-07-19 Thread Rick Thomas
I don't know if this is relevant, but some IDE controllers only recognize the first 128 GB(binary) = 137*10^9 bytes. Is it possible that your controller has two modes? Windows uses one mode that recognizes the whole disk, and Linux uses the other (compatibility?) mode that only recognizes the fir

Bug#260225: Sarge installer not recognising partition table for disk larger than 137GB

2004-07-19 Thread Rick Thomas
e is -- maybe somebody on the list knows?) That would be worth a try. I know it's possible to use disks larger than 137 GB with Linux -- I'm doing it! Rick On Monday, July 19, 2004, at 08:33 PM, Sara Falamaki wrote: On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 04:15:36PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: I don'

Bug#261463: Missing drivers on powerpc 2.6 businesscard install

2004-07-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, July 26, 2004, at 09:25 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 02:00:46AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: The powerpc 2.6 kernel version of the d-i is missing drivers (modules or built-in) for Mac floppy disks and SCSI CD-ROM drives. I've added the floppy modules. Thanks! Installing

Bug#261463: Missing drivers on powerpc 2.6 businesscard install

2004-07-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, July 26, 2004, at 04:53 PM, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 02:17:46PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Monday, July 26, 2004, at 09:25 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 02:00:46AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: Installing on a PowerMac/6500 with a TEAC SCSI CD-RW drive

Is anyone else seeing this? -- Re: Bug#261460: Non-DHCP network config step of d-i is broken

2004-07-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Is this problem only on OldWorld PowerMac's? Or am I just the only person in the world who wants to configure his network interface without DHCP? If this is happening on i386, it would be a show stopper! Please, somebody, give it a try and let me know I'm not going crazy. It doesn't take very

Bug#261460: Is anyone else seeing this? -- Re: Bug#261460: Non-DHCP network config step of d-i is broken

2004-07-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, at 04:27 PM, Joshua Kwan wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 03:40:30PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Please, somebody, give it a try and let me know I'm not going crazy. It doesn't take very long to get to the point where this bug manifests itself, and you don

Bug#262198: "Partition hard drives" fails on powerpc OldWorld PowerMac in 20040729 businesscard install.

2004-07-29 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc businesscard 20040729 OldWorld PowerMac INSTALL REPORT Synopsis: "Partition hard drives" fails on powerpc OldWorld PowerMac on 20040729 businesscard install. Debian-installer-version: sid_d-i/powerpc/20040729 uname -a: Linux debian

Bug#262201: PowerMac (OldWorld) - no driver for onboard SCSI

2004-07-29 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc 20040724 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac kernel-2.6 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: sid_d-i/powerpc/20040724/sarge-powerpc-businesscard.iso Comments/Problems: The powerpc 2.6 kernel on the 20040724 businesscard CD is missing drivers (modules or

Bug#262201: PowerMac (OldWorld) - no driver for onboard SCSI

2004-07-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, July 30, 2004, at 05:34 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 12:24:54AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Package: installation-reports powerpc 20040724 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac kernel-2.6 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: sid_d-i/powerpc/20040724/sarge-powerpc

Bug#241516: partial success on Oldworld powermac

2004-07-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks for the reminder. You can close this bug report. The "ask for floppy driver module twice (and not fined it at all" bug is still present, but I've mentioned it in other bug reports that reference more current CD images, so there's no need for this one. Enjoy! Rick On Friday, July 30, 200

Bug#261460: Is anyone else seeing this? -- Re: Bug#261460: Non-DHCP network config step of d-i is broken

2004-08-01 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, July 29, 2004, at 05:42 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, at 04:27 PM, Joshua Kwan wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 03:40:30PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Please, somebody, give it a try and let me know I'm not going crazy. It doesn't take very long to get to

Bug#261460: Is anyone else seeing this? -- Re: Bug#261460: Non-DHCP network config step of d-i is broken

2004-08-01 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks for the prompt reply! On Sunday, August 1, 2004, at 01:55 PM, Joshua Kwan wrote: If you do not CC [EMAIL PROTECTED], nobody except me will see this. I did that. Would somebody please try this out on an i386? (DNSserver address != Gateway address) And let me know if it breaks non-DHCP netwo

Re: Introduction

2004-08-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 03:52:20AM +1000, James Mills wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 06:36:42PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > > [Please keep further questions on the mailing list, if you would.] > > > > Shit. Does this list not have an explicit Reply-To header to the

Re: release status

2004-08-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Joey Hess wrote: > > At this point the only delay is waiting for the autobuilders, which are > overloaded from all the other uploads surrounding the sarge release, to > catch up and build the d-i images. In the past 24 hours, we've gotten > builds for hppa, ia64, s390, and sparc, plus a manual b

Re: release status

2004-08-02 Thread Rick Thomas
OOOps... I accidentally hit "send" when I meant to hit "save"... Here's the complete message as I intended it to be! Rick Joey Hess wrote: > > At this point the only delay is waiting for the autobuilders, which are > overloaded from all the other uploads surrounding the sarge release, to > catc

Re: release status (checklist)

2004-08-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Joey Hess wrote: > The test > checklist in installer/doc/checklist is still missing many entries and > the more complete it is the better I'd feel about calling this release > rc1 instead of beta5. If you'll send me a pointer (URL?) to the test checklist, I'll try to make sure that it gets as d

Re: Old world mac

2004-08-05 Thread Rick Thomas
Rikard Borg wrote: > > Hi > > Rick Thomas Wrote: > > > > >Any one of these three bugs will render debian-installer unusable for > >anyone with anything but a "plain vanilla" hardware or networking > >environment who doesn't have help

Bug#264492: NewWorld (G4) PowerPC d-i hardware detect does not see firewire disk

2004-08-08 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc businesscard "RC1" NewWorld PowerMac INSTALL REPORT Synopsis: "Partition hard drives" fails to see FireWire disk on powerpc NewWorld (G4) PowerMac on RC1 businesscard install. You folks are probably tired of seeing OldWorld PowerPC bug reports from

Bug#264492: NewWorld (G4) PowerPC d-i hardware detect does not see firewire disk

2004-08-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, August 9, 2004, at 03:55 PM, Rick_Thomas wrote: OK, as I said, output of lspci and lspci -n will be sent tonight, when I can get my hands on the machine in question. Here is the output of "lspci ; lspci -n" Hope it helps! BTW, I manually did "modprobe ohci1394 ; modprobe sbp2" just befo

Bug#264492: NewWorld (G4) PowerPC d-i hardware detect does not see firewire disk

2004-08-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tuesday, August 10, 2004, at 04:04 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Ok, so we do it by hand. I wonder though what newworld pmac box he has that doesn't work, apple usually reused the same componnent in various boxes, and thus it should usually work. Well, it's a PowerMac G4 733 MHz. The case is grey.

Re: Old world mac

2004-08-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Install MacOS-9. Then use the BootX boot-loader. (or 8.5 or 8.6, if 9 won't run on the S-900. I've never seen one of those, so I don't know what will run on it and what wont. I'm told that BootX even works with MacOS 7.5, if your machine can run it and you have a floppy drive to install it f

Bug#264964: OldWorld PowerMac Debian-Install floppys

2004-08-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports I retrieved the floppy images at http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc-small/floppy/ so I could try out a floppy-boot install from them. I got never even got off the ground... 1) The "boot.img' floppy seems to have nothing on it but the 'vm

Bug#264964: OldWorld PowerMac Debian-Install floppys

2004-08-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, August 11, 2004, at 05:45 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 11:25:48AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: # We'd like to use miboot, but it isn't in the archive yet ... #miboot -c ./tmp/powerpc-small_floppy_boot/miboot.conf # ... so instead we do some grungy HFS hacking. I wonder

Bug#264964: OldWorld PowerMac Debian-Install floppys

2004-08-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, August 11, 2004, at 05:25 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 01:57:22AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Package: installation-reports I retrieved the floppy images at http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc- small/floppy/ so I could try out a floppy

Bug#264963: Installation report for Apple Blue & White G3 400 from netinstall CD (powerpc, RC1)

2004-08-11 Thread Rick Thomas
Evilpig wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:35:27 +0100, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's not in the lspci output because it's not a PCI card. > > > > I thought I'd fixed this one, so I'd like the reporter to show me the > > output of the following two commands, which you should be

Bug#264964: OldWorld PowerMac Debian-Install floppys

2004-08-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, August 13, 2004, at 09:53 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Can you please retry the miboot boot floppies tomorrow ? I fixed the daily-builds to rebuild the actual miboot floppies. Now, the only problem remaining would be the root floppy being too big, and the actual 2.6 kernel based miboot floppi

Bug#264964: OldWorld PowerMac Debian-Install floppys

2004-08-16 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, August 16, 2004, at 03:18 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Thanks Rick for testing it. I will build 2.6.8 miboot kernels today, could you possibly give it a try to see if it boots this evening or something such ? Sure. Expect my report at about the same time tomorrow that I posted today's. i

Re: Old world mac

2004-08-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, August 5, 2004, at 02:19 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: Rikard Borg wrote: I'm one of those out there waiting with a 7200 box at home. Rikard Borg -- Hi Rikard, Did the work-around I sent you help any? Have you got that 7200 box working yet? Enjoy! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: new oldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies, root size should be ok, net_drivers still too big, please test.

2004-08-19 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, August 19, 2004, at 05:00 AM, Sven Luther wrote: happy floppy disk reading noises. However, the noises eventually stopped and a red "X" appeared over the TuxMac. Then nothing. I had to manually eject the floppy from the drive. What we need would be a way to get a log of it or somet

Re: new oldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies, root size should be ok, net_drivers still too big, please test.

2004-08-19 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 12:08:23PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Can you make a boot floppy with a 2.4 kernel that installs a 2.6 > > kernel from the net/CD/whatever? > > Sure, but it is not nice. I think you have to fall back to lower priorit

Re: new oldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies, root size should be ok, net_drivers still too big, please test.

2004-08-19 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 12:08:23PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Thursday, August 19, 2004, at 05:00 AM, Sven Luther wrote: > > >I have a > > >suspsicion that the pmac floppies being modular maybe one of the > > >causes of > >

Re: Plea for help from PowerMac Open Firmware gurus -- Testing new oldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-08-19 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, August 19, 2004, at 12:08 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Thursday, August 19, 2004, at 05:00 AM, Sven Luther wrote: happy floppy disk reading noises. However, the noises eventually stopped and a red "X" appeared over the TuxMac. Then nothing. I had to manually eject

Re: PowerPC Install

2004-08-25 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 12:22:38AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 06:59, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: > > > Any ideas why these daily builds are broken every day? > > I just tried the 2.4 floppy images. What Wouter says is correct. I'm > > going to go

Re: Plea for help from PowerMac Open Firmware gurus -- Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-08-25 Thread Rick Thomas
Rick_Thomas wrote: > Well... on the beige G3, I booted into Open Firmware with the > "ofonlyboot" floppy in the drive. The G3 comes up with console > input/output being keyboard/screen. From another Mac running MacOS-9, I > connected with MacKermit to the G3's modem port (which is normally >

Re: PowerPC Install

2004-08-25 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: > > the .coff booting is probably the > only free alternative, but i am told requesting a debian oldworld user to get > the serial console working is not acceptable. Only unacceptable in the sense that Open Firmware is dramatically different between machine types. Apple dev

Re: Debian Installer beta2 working on an OldWorld PowerMac-6500/225

2004-01-22 Thread Rick Thomas
rote: > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 02:15:20AM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Hardware: > > > > PowerMac 6500/225 with 128MB of RAM and a 6GB SCSI disk > > partitioned as 2.5GB for MacOS, 3.0 GB for Linux root (an > > "all-in-one" filesystem) and 500

Re: using beta 2 install on oldworld powermac

2004-01-22 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Rolando, I'm also trying to get debian installer working on an OldWorld PowerMac. See my comments below... Enjoy! Rick Rolando Abarca wrote: > > Hello, > this is my second try to install sarge on my PowerMac 7200/120, this time ... snip ... > Everything went smooth from here, until it tr

Re: goals for next release

2004-01-30 Thread Rick Thomas
I like it! Ideally, the selector would look at the sub-arch and only offer those bootloader options that work on that sub-arch? Rick On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 03:39 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Ideally, but i don't know if this is beta2 stuff, a bootloader selector would be done, which on po

Re: Bits about countrychooser and languagechooser

2004-01-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Yeah! Please do this! On Sunday, January 25, 2004, at 09:26 PM, Jeremie Koenig wrote: Also, what about adding the C and POSIX locales somehow ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian Sarge on oldworld Powermac?

2004-06-13 Thread Rick Thomas
Reset (zap) the PRAM. Turn the power off, then turn it on with the Command-Option-P-R keys (all of them) held down. Hold the keys down til it bongs a couple of times, then release and it should boot normally from floppy. Rick On Sunday, June 13, 2004, at 05:51 AM, matt-land.com wrote: On Sun,

Re: Minutes of #debian-boot meeting of 20040706 (was: Debian Installer IRCmeeting on Tuesday 07/06 20:00 UTC)

2004-07-09 Thread Rick Thomas
> powerpc > === > > In unstable, 2.4 and 2.6 both work fine on newworld pmac. 2.4 oldworld > pmac is unbootable, but then again it always has been. > > It is reasonable to move for a 2.6 powerpc kernel for sarge, for all > currently supported architectures, the support for those is > better,

Bug#258422: Kernel 2.6 OldWorld PowerMac netinst daily CD 2004/07/07 fails toinstall

2004-07-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040707/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso uname -a: didn't get far enough to get this... Date: 11 PM EDT July 9, 2004 Method: How did you install? What did you boot of

Re: Minutes of #debian-boot meeting of 20040706 (was: Debian Installer IRCmeeting on Tuesday 07/06 20:00 UTC)

2004-07-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Joey Hess wrote: > > Rick Thomas wrote: > > Last night I tried installing both 2.4 and 2.6 on my OldWorld Beige G3. > > (using the sarge netinst daily CD from 2004/07/07) Neither worked, but > > for different reasons. > > > > I've sent installat

Re: Minutes of #debian-boot meeting of 20040706 (was: Debian Installer IRCmeeting on Tuesday 07/06 20:00 UTC)

2004-07-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Rick Thomas wrote: > > Joey Hess wrote: > > > > Rick Thomas wrote: > > > Last night I tried installing both 2.4 and 2.6 on my OldWorld Beige G3. > > > (using the sarge netinst daily CD from 2004/07/07) Neither worked, but > > > for different reason

Bug#258541: Kernel 2.6 OldWorld PowerMac netinst daily CD 2004/07/08 fails toinstall

2004-07-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040708/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso uname -a: didn't get far enough to get this... Date: early AM EDT Saturday, July 10, 2004 Method: How did you install? What d

Bug#258545: OldWorld PowerMac netinst daily CD 2004/07/08 success (mostly)

2004-07-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040708/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.25-powerpc #1 mer avr 14 15:38:38 CEST 2004 ppc GNU/Linux Date: 11 PM EDT July 9, 2004 Method: How

Bug#258545: OldWorld PowerMac netinst daily CD 2004/07/08 success (mostly)

2004-07-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, July 10, 2004, at 07:33 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 03:46:29AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Everything went like clockwork except that it tried to install the quik bootloader. IT's not supposed to do that for OldWorld machines, is it? This is a beige G3 mini

three different sets of daily ISOs -- what's the difference?

2004-07-11 Thread Rick Thomas
There are three (seemingly) different sets of daily ISOs at http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040710/ http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d- i/powerpc/20040710/ http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sid_d-i/powerpc/20040710/ Can anybody explain wh

Bug#258907: Kernel 2.6 OldWorld PowerMac businesscard daily CD 2004/07/11 fails initial reboot

2004-07-11 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040711/sarge-powerpc-businesscard.iso uname -a: didn't get far enough to get this... Date: early AM EDT Saturday, July 12, 2004 Method: How did you install? W

Bug#258908: Kernel 2.6 OldWorld PowerMac sid_d-i businesscard daily CD 2004/07/11 fails installing "unstable"

2004-07-11 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040711/sarge-powerpc-businesscard.iso uname -a: didn't get far enough to get this... Date: early AM EDT Saturday, July 12, 2004 Method: How did you install? W

Re: powerpc status and missing 2.6.7 .udebs and .debs in sarge.

2004-07-16 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 11:45:38AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 11:07, Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:55:36AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: > > > > Last night I downloaded and installed on my test-machine [beige G3 > > > > mini-towe

Re: testing beyond Intel [PATCH]

2004-03-18 Thread Rick Thomas
> If not, ask smart questions[1] > [1] http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html I sincerely hope that what I've been asking so far are not viewed as "dumb questions"! Here's my first feedback on the manual (since I have to read the manual before I can start using the installer!)

Re: testing beyond Intel [PATCH]

2004-03-18 Thread Rick Thomas
Frans, That's wonderful! However, nothing's easy. I get "not found" errors from both of those links. Am I missing something? Thanks! Rick Frans Pop wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 18 March 2004 03:35, Rick_Thomas wrote: > > > Is the "Preliminar

Re: testing beyond Intel [PATCH]

2004-03-18 Thread Rick Thomas
Ahhh... That worked! As I said, "Nothing's easy!". I need the PowerPC version. This one's for the i386. Could I impose on you to generate a PowerPC version for me? (Sorry to be a pain!) Thanks in advance! Rick Frans Pop wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Sorry,

Re: Sarge/beta-3 on a RS6000/7025-F50 (PPC 604e, CHRP)

2004-03-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, March 20, 2004, at 01:22 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Ok, copying to debian-boot, since this is most relevant there, and to rick thomas, which volunteered to help with installation manual. Rick, this is a boot method on a chrp-rs6k ibm box. I don't know if you are familiar with these

Re: testing beyond Intel [PATCH]

2004-03-20 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks! This will be very helpful. Please see my notes below... On Saturday, March 20, 2004, at 04:17 AM, Miroslav Kure wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:42:51AM -0500, Rick_Thomas wrote: I would be very grateful If you (or someone else on this list) could point me at the chapters and sections

Re: testing beyond Intel [PATCH]

2004-03-21 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks! You're very kind. I'm still (figuratively) learning where the bathrooms are, but with help from friends like you I'll be up and running in no time. I'll have to learn how to do svs, docbook, xml and so on myself eventually, and that's one of my top priorities. In the mean time, unt

Re: suggestion: something to add!

2004-03-21 Thread Rick Thomas
Let me second Jeremy's suggestion. I keep DHCP turned on on my router because my printer needs it, but I much prefer to have everything (except the printer -- sigh!) have statically assigned IP addresses. I know I could do that with DHCP, but why bother if I don't have to? Enjoy! Rick On Su

Re: suggestion: something to add!

2004-03-21 Thread Rick Thomas
Here's a larger question: Why do I have to subject myself to the full-monty expert mode when I just want one tiny feature that isn't completely covered by normal mode? Shouldn't it be possible to dip down into expert territory for just the parts you need fine control over, and return to norma

Re: OldWorld floppy images

2004-03-23 Thread Rick Thomas
gs. It's not altogether surprising, since in a previous life, this machine was used (and abused!) by students in a public computer lab. I'll try swapping the floppy drive with a known good one and try again. Though that may take a couple of days. So, can we make a root.img file that will

Re: OldWorld floppy images

2004-03-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, March 25, 2004, at 04:40 AM, Jeremie Koenig wrote: On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 01:51:29AM -0500, Rick_Thomas wrote: When it was done reading that it asked about a driver floppy, but did not eject the root floppy -- I had to do that manually, which I did -- Maybe a wishlist bug for load-fl

Re: OldWorld floppy images

2004-03-25 Thread Rick Thomas
Jeremie Koenig wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 11:35:04AM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > > so I may not have picked the right > > module(s). Which ones should I have used? > > You mean, in anna when loading the floppy ? Pickup everything, and > hopefully your

Re: OldWorld floppy images

2004-03-27 Thread Rick Thomas
Malte, Errors like that are usually symptomatic of a dirty/dusty floppy drive. Buy and use a floppy drive cleaning kit (a bottle of isopropanol and a floppy-like thing with a non-abrasive fibrous disk in place of the usual shiny oxide coated disk). Don't be afraid to use it couple of times if yo

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot & amiboot & ..

2004-03-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Maybe we could get the boot-sector code declared "OK to use" by Apple? It would be a "hack the system" kind of thing, but I suppose technically they wouldn't have to release the copyright on the source code for the boot sector, just the derived sequence of binary bits. Indeed, Apple may have a

Bug#240602: boot-floppies: sarge - there may be multiple driver floppies - need to ask for more

2004-03-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Yes. It's the new debian-installer on an OldWorld PowerMac. Jeremie has pointed out that one floppy worth of drivers should be enough to give you access to either a CD-ROM or a network, and that's all you "really" need. So this is actually a "wishlist" request. I have no problem with that.

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot & amiboot & ..

2004-03-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Here's a thought. First some background: Last night, just to prove it could be done, I succeeded (first try) in using BootX under MacOS9 on an OldWorld PowerMac G3 (beige mini-tower) to load and run the debian-installer kernel and initrd downloaded from:

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot & amiboot & ..

2004-03-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: > Rick wrote: > > Now the part of debian-installer that died on me last night has an > > easy fix: Simply do not install any boot loader at all for that > > subarchitecture. > > Rick, Quik can easily be used to boot from CD, no problem, sadly it > cannot be used to boot from

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot & amiboot & ..

2004-03-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Joey Hess wrote: > > Rick Thomas wrote: > > I got as far as the point where the d-i tries to install a > > bootloader. It died there because there is no boot loader for the > > oldworld subarchitecture. > > It's good to know that it got that far. > >

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot & amiboot & ..

2004-03-29 Thread Rick Thomas
o be in M68k machine language, not PowerPC. Hope that helps! Rick On Monday, March 29, 2004, at 02:32 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 07:00:06PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote I'll do whatever I can to help with testing. No problem. If you feel like disassembling the miboot stage 1 boot

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot & amiboot & ..

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tuesday, March 30, 2004, at 10:47 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 04:01:49PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 10:56:21PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Google "macintosh boot block" turns up official Apple information

Re: corrections

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Simon, Can you give a blow-by-blow installation procedure for installing debian on oldworld Macs without BootX? I've done it for woody with BootX -- I haven't figured out how to do woody without BootX. Unfortunately, sarge has completely eluded me so far -- with or without BootX. Thanks! Ri

Re: goals for next release

2004-03-31 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: > > > I would also vote for : abort current action if possible and drop > > > back in the main menu (at possibly a lower priority). If abortion is not > > > possible, you simply do the drop back at the earliest possible > > > convenience. > > > > Sorry, was not talking about

Bug#241516: install-report success (sort of) on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-04-01 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Date: daily for powerpc for March 30, 2004. Image from: uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.25-powerpc #1 ven mar

Bug#241228: Oldworld from floppy, installing the kernel fails

2004-04-01 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: > > > Another solution would be for base-installer to install the -powerpc > kernel on your box too, since the main reason to use the -powerpc-small > kernel is so that it will fit on a floppy with miboot. Would it be possible to restrict use of "-powerpc-small" kernel to

Bug#241228: Oldworld from floppy, installing the kernel fails

2004-04-01 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, April 1, 2004, at 05:57 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: another mail, same topic: Is there support for setting open firmware values in debian-installer at the moment ? Not yet, but you are welcome to provide patches. We'll see, I will try to setup a d-i build this weekend or next week (sh

Bug#242143: boot-floppy: no way to do expert mode boot from floppy on OldWorld PowerMac (at least)

2004-04-04 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: boot-floppy Severity: normal Subject: boot-floppy: no way to do expert mode boot from floppy on OldWorld PowerMac (at least) On OldWorld PowerPC Macintoshes there is no way for a user to do an "expert" mode boot starting from the boot floppys. I suppose theoretically that one can do thin

Bug#242144: installation-reports: OldWorld PowerMac install (sarge) dies trying to install bootloader

2004-04-04 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports Severity: normal Subject: installation-reports: OldWorld PowerMac install (sarge) dies trying to install bootloader On OldWorld PowerPC Macs the yaboot bootloader doesn't work. Without resorting to "expert" mode ("DEBCONF_PRIORITY=medium" or better) there is no way

Bug#242144: installation-reports: OldWorld PowerMac install (sarge) dies trying to install bootloader

2004-04-05 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, April 5, 2004, at 07:12 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 04:29:14PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Subject: installation-reports: OldWorld PowerMac install (sarge) dies trying to install bootloader The installer should automatically recognize the OldWorld subarchitecture and

Re: Fw: Request for review of partman-newworld

2004-04-07 Thread Rick Thomas
Frans Pop wrote: > > Hello Rick, > > Are you still planning to work on the manual for Macs? > If so, could you take a look at the text below, Yes I am. I got side-tracked for a while in testing d-i on old-world Macs. Thanks for the words. I'll take a look at it this weekend. Enjoy! Rick

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot & amiboot & ..

2004-04-07 Thread Rick Thomas
I just had an interesting conversation with an Apple developer (Apple employee) regarding the legal status of the boot sector for oldworld Macs. He pointed out that Darwin runs (and boots) on (at least) the beige G3, and that's oldworld. I don't know anything about Darwin except that it's fro

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-08 Thread Rick Thomas
Malte, Errors like that are usually symptomatic of a dirty/dusty floppy drive. In particular, if the boot floppy is ejected, it means that the firmware got an error trying to read it, or couldn't find the magic numbers in the magic places that it was expecting from a real-live Macintosh boot f

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi! See comments interleaved below... Rick Malte Cornils wrote: > > Hi Rick, > > On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 01:37:21AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Errors like that are usually symptomatic of a dirty/dusty floppy drive. > > > > In particular, if the boot floppy

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 01:37:21AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Malte, > > > > Rick, does this mean that the daily build floppies work for you now ? > > Friendly, > > Sven Luther Yes. It reads all the floppies and launches d-i

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Frans Pop wrote: > > On Friday 09 April 2004 20:40, you wrote: > > Booting off of floppy, there is no way to invoke "...PRIORITY=medium" > > mode. It just does the default. > > > Are you sure? > You have to enter 'linux DEBCONF_PRIORITY=medium' > > Frans This is OldWorld PowerMac. Booting off

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sunday, April 11, 2004, at 01:56 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Ok. Now wee need to see why this happens. It seems that nobody was able to make it work with the boot floppies built by me, is that exact ? Only by those built by Jeremie. We need to find out why. Jeremie, did you modify the kernel conf

Re: Bug#243166: eject should provide a .udeb, so that an eject menu item can be found in debian-installer.

2004-04-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 12:28:11AM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > tags 243166 moreinfo help > > thanks > > > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 03:52:44PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > A .udeb package would allow to eject the cdrom during the install. Would > > > be particul

Re: d-i, FAI, quik-installer for oldworld, debconf4

2004-04-13 Thread Rick Thomas
Holger Levsen wrote: > > I would like to start hacking a quik-installer (for oldworld powerpc) now, but > I am a little unsure how to test it on my own: Since my only oldworld system > to develop with is a pmac4400 at the moment I have to boot if from floppies. > Then I'll usually insert the

Re: Volume group not found after install

2019-08-09 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Aug 7, 2019, at 2:09 PM, fRANz wrote: > > Hi all, > I'm trying to install debian testing on X1 Carbon 7th Gen on NVMe local disk. > I'm using debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso downloaded some days ago: > > sha256 190d3ccfc9d04ad64b3d7f031d03e8d14cf13ad3857add9eab653c8f96ed4ff0 > debian-te

Re: Volume group not found after install

2019-08-10 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Aug 9, 2019, at 9:00 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > Hi, > > Steve McIntyre (2019-08-09): >> Not sure, immediately. This is going to take some effort to debug >> interactively, most likely. Can you get in using rescue mode from >> the installer? >> >> I'd be looking to check that the va

Bug#934040: tasksel: doesn't provide transitional package for task-print-server

2019-09-09 Thread Rick Thomas
I second this recommendation! Rick > On Aug 6, 2019, at 4:25 AM, Raphaël Halimi wrote: > > Package: tasksel > Version: 3.54 > > Hi, > > Following #696658, task-print-server was renamed to task-print-service. > > Running "apt-get dist-upgrade" on current Sid tries to remove > task-print-server

Re: Dropping haveged from the installer

2020-02-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Does this mean that haveged is no longer needed on armhf hosts that are running kernels later than 5.3.9 ? I notice my armhf (Cubox) host on Debian Testing that the haveged daemon does not start. > root@cube:~# uname -a > Linux cube 5.4.0-3-armmp #1 SMP Debian 5.4.13-1 (2020-01-19) armv7l GNU/

Looking for Debian unofficial install for mac with firmware...

2020-02-10 Thread Rick Thomas
For a friend... Does there exist a Buster Debian amd64 installer for mac with non-free firmware? He has a been given a 2006 vintage quad core MacPro1,1 https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/specs/mac-pro-quad-3.0-specs.html That he'd like to get Linux running on. A live image for the s

Re: Looking for Debian unofficial install for mac with firmware...

2020-02-10 Thread Rick Thomas
"mac" support with 10.3 ? On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 3:17 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > For a friend... > > Does there exist a Buster Debian amd64 installer for mac with non-free > firmware? > > He has a been given a 2006 vintage quad core MacPro1,1 > > https://e

Bug#901332: d-i: Offer to shut down / power off instead of reboot at the end

2018-06-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jun 12, 2018, at 8:56 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> So, please, at the end, where it tells the reboot message, add >> a third button that shuts down / powers off the system instead >> of rebooting. > > Still, I do agree that this would be useful in general. Especially if it could be pre-seed

Error trying to update powerpc64 Jessie machine.

2018-06-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi! For the last couple of days, my PowerPC64 machine, running Debian Jessie, has been getting this error message when I try to do “apt update”: > W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/jessie/updates/InRelease > Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-powerpc/Packages' in Rele

Re: Error trying to update powerpc64 Jessie machine.

2018-06-29 Thread Rick Thomas
just comment out the security.debian.org line in my sources.list? Thanks, Rick On Jun 28, 2018, at 5:22 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Hi Rick, > > This has little to do with the installer team (debian-boot@), and it > isn't (really) a powerpc-specific issue either. > > R

Links to buster release notes don't work

2018-07-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On webpage https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/releasenotes There are a bunch of links that are claimed to be for draft release notes for Buster. Unfortunately, all of them wind up at “Page not found”. Is this deliberate? Or is it possibly a result of some recent change of servers, or

Re: Links to buster release notes don't work

2018-07-25 Thread Rick Thomas
er, which isn't released yet > > So no information on releasenotes > > Buster will be released on 2019 and these pages will be updated then. > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 10:07 AM Rick Thomas wrote: >> >> >> On webpage >>https://www.debian.org/release

Bug#615646: [installation-guide] How do I know which CD has the package I need?

2018-07-28 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 28, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Holger Wansing wrote: > > Robert Cymbala wrote: >> QUESTION: >> I burned the first fifteen (15) CD's and GNU/Emacs, which I want to >> install, >> is not on them. How do I find out which CDs I need to burn? (There are 37 >> more in cdimage.debian.org/

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